That's awesome!!! Congratulations to him!!!
John Schmidt has beaten Mosconi
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LOL.
I'm a Willie fan. Always have been, always will be.
Having said that, I'm also a John Fan and will always be unless he gives me a reason not to be.
To be more specific:
I was/am a Willie fan not only because he was a beast at "anything" pool but because he was a good man in general. You know? The type man that use to be more common. The type man that took care of his own and did not take handouts. Yes, that type, the type man that has all but fell by the waste-side as of late.
Well, I've been around John and I know several people that have spent and continue to spend a lot of time with and or around John and from everything I know and everything I've been told about John S. the "man", not just John S. the "pool player", he too has my respect.
How can we not pull for such a man is this day and age?
You do realize that Willie did this almost every day and went all over the country. I would be willing to bet he played a lot more straight pool than John.
You are right it isn't the same thing, John did it on a larger table and ran 100 more balls. His accomplishment is nothing short of incredible.
If you think this is easy to duplicate pick any player in the world, have them play with the same rules on the same table John used and I will give them 30 days to break the record. We can bet from 10K to 100K.
I'm glad we have people like them, Richard.
In general, pocket billiards must come back hard this century, esp. 14.1 Continuous. I can tell when I see a pool player who has stared in straight pool from another who has started on a bar table, shooting shots wildly (a "banger"). It's like day and night. Oh boy, is it good to be alive, in this day in age!
I noticed that too!
Pat don't comment just to comment. It has to "REALLY" matter. As you said, enuff said about the "if it matters"....
1. Wow, congrats to John....just didn't break the record, he smashed through it like a green painted Lou Ferigno! Mr. 626 has a great ring to it.
2. Please Please please, one of you producers out there. Make the video for sale with a post-run overlayed audio commentary by John and Jeremy Jones.
I'm dying to hear every detail, and John is great at articulating it and Jeremy is great at extracting it. Love to know the thoughts aa he approached and as he broke the record.
Please make it happen. My PayPal awaits.
2. Please Please please, one of you producers out there. Make the video for sale with a post-run overlayed audio commentary by John and Jeremy Jones.
I'm dying to hear every detail, and John is great at articulating it and Jeremy is great at extracting it. Love to know the thoughts aa he approached and as he broke the record.
Please make it happen. My PayPal awaits.
You must be joking if you think Willie had countless shots at setting the record.
Willie often did multiple exhibitions in multiple pool rooms in a single day when he toured, and it was very rare that he continued runs past the winning number in exhibitions and it was never done in competition back then.
It should also be noted that there were not that many straight pool tournaments back then and that the defending world champion always had a bye into the final, so for fifteen years, Willie was guaranteed his spot in the finals of the world championships without hitting a ball. When he was shooting in other tournaments, however, he mass produced 150 and out games in competition. No player since Willie, not even Sigel or Hohmann, has duplicated this.
Per his manager Charles Ursitti, a high run meant little to nothing to Mosconi, but it meant something to his sponsor Brunswick, which is why he occasionally went past the winning number in exhibition matches. I wouldn't be surprised if John had 100 times as many attempts at a high run as Mosconi. To suggest that players (other than Cranfield, of course) were obsessed with setting a personal best high run is to rewrite history.
... but all that said, John has set the record, and good for him. Nobody is more deserving of sitting on top in the record books, for John worked his tail off for this accomplishment. Well done, John.
Mr 600, that has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?
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Same here.
If .....wait, NO IF's.......When this DVD comes out, I'm in.
Here's the "if":
If each and every one of the 14.1 enthusiasts does not buy the DVD, well.....shame on them!
Moreover, all pool players and more specifically, all AZB members should buy it for sure.
We (everyone that CLAIMS to love 14.1) should feel OBLIGATED to financially support this triumphant task that John has accomplished.
If "we" don't support him, how can "anyone" expect the pool world in general to do so?
Like you, my PayPal is sitting on ready.
Jeff
That would be perfect
Lol, I ain't a beginner I'm 59 , I get to watch world class players all the time here with Roys Basment players and Bobby Chamberlin practicing 14-1 , personality one pocket is by far the best game to watch once you have played it , 14-1 is like watching paint dry in comparison that's why the game is all but dead and trust me no spike is coming like they say happened because of the color of money, that in the same time the Apa was formed
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Well, you act more like a condescending 10 year old than the age you just described... let's address that elephant in the room. If you are a fan of billiards, enjoy them all. Specialist really don't go far.
14.1 is like watching paint try, huh? Well, you fail to even get involved with that. If I were to be a dick, I would easily tell you that if you were to show a novice how to play one-pocket, that person would easily shun this game and get away from it, altogether.
It's jerks like you that give pool such a bad name, do you know that? Get the facts straight: This is not a game, anymore. It's idiots like you that still call this sport "a game". Why is that? Because there are many people who are trying so hard to put billiards into the Olympics. Sadly, there is always that stigmata that holds this sport as a hustling game that is always a side spectacle on the bar rooms. Therefore, if you don't have anything decent to say, don't say it.
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Agreed that one pocket is not the first game one should learn.
Johnny Ervolino, who loved both straight pool and one pocket and was a superstar in both disciplines, used to say that these were the two games of finesse on a pool table and that one needs to play at least one of them to develop a complete skill set. Grady Matthews said the same.
... but Johnny tended to hedge when asked which game is better. He used to say that one pocket is more difficult but straight pool is more beautiful. That's about how I see it, too.
There's room for both of these wonderful games in pool's landscape.
JC
Coos Cues
Mosconi wasn't in a competitive match but an exhibition. Which is exactly what JS did.
When you run 44 racks while the other guy is sitting in his chair who are you playing?
JC
Was he using the Predator Cue Chalk?
