One pocket is pretty much all I play. I've seen more games lost by trying to stay safe than by cinching this shot.
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Well I can’t do it either way:wink: Not sure how Ronnie did it, just that I trust the witness that told me the story.
The way I shoot this is the masse. To clarify, you don't curve prior to contact and then hit it from a thick approach angle. You slide the ball so far that it makes contact with the object ball and cuts it in, then is slides to a stop. It's a cool shot. I'm very low percentage from the kitchen even with both hands. But if I'm a foot away from a ball I can often stop my rock dead while cutting the ball in.
If I had ball in hand, in the kitchen, on a spot shot at one pocket, I would put my cueball near the center of the table behind the line maybe a hair to the side of my pocket and back cut the ball in , that would bring the cueball back up to the top rail, and leave the ball somewhere near my pocket even if I missed . I think this is the correct shot at one pocket for anyone who makes less than 90 out of 100 spot shots .
Of course most people never check to see how often they miss ,they just assume they make 9 out of 10, but one pocket is a much different game than nine ball , for 10 dollars who gives a crap, bet $5,000.00 and tell me which shot you like. Oh, by the way, the last guy I saw miss and lose the game, shooting from over near the opposite long rail, was Alex Pagulayan. I don't remember if it was match game or just cost him 1, but it's sure a big turnaround shot.
Of course most people never check to see how often they miss ,they just assume they make 9 out of 10, but one pocket is a much different game than nine ball , for 10 dollars who gives a crap, bet $5,000.00 and tell me which shot you like. Oh, by the way, the last guy I saw miss and lose the game, shooting from over near the opposite long rail, was Alex Pagulayan. I don't remember if it was match game or just cost him 1, but it's sure a big turnaround shot.
On some cloth and conditions, you can do it with just a drag draw shot.
I knock the shot out of that ball too. Draw it like th heartless man said above.
If I miss, opponent is shooting a 1, 2 or 3 railer from the foot rail, not a cross corner duck.
Ok I put on my lab coat and took it to the table. I alternated between methods. My first make was the curve ball which left the cue ball approximately 6 inches from the end rail. A couple of attempts later I made it with center ball and the cue ball stopped an inch off the rail. Still alternating I had 2 successful center ball cuts with no curve ball success. Each center ball success left me a little further from the rail each time with the last stopping 3 inches clear.
My conclusion is the curve ball requires more skill but gives a quicker stop. My choice for money would be center ball, at this time. The masse will be getting more of my practice time now though.
My world thanks you for your awareness of foot/head ends of the table.
And one can also draw an angle out of a straight shot with same spinglish.
I have done it lots, but never from more than an inch or two between cb/ob.
Agreed on center ball. Two key points - hit the ball as full as you can (cheat pocket) and the CB has to be rolling as SLOW as possible at contact.
This experiment also shows that in one pocket I can play the slow roll and not be in danger of leaving the sell out cross corner bank if I miss.
Yes, there was a whole thread about just this shot a year or two ago. The best you can do is leave the cue ball about 8 to 10 inches from the foot rail (without hitting any rail). You can probably do it more easily if you use a light cue ball, but that would be cheating.
Well, yes, that is pretty rare -- in fact I don't think I've ever seen it -- but almost the same is when the only other ball on the table is behind the line after a scratch.
I like this (with a little right). don't leave a bank.
It’s pretty much an impossible scenario. You can’t have a BIH and only one ball left on the table both at the same time.
If you mean that your opponent pocketed the last ball into a neutral pocket and left the CB in the kitchen, I’d normally use top spin only (maybe with a touch of outside) but depends on the angle he left you with.
btw - pocketing the last ball into a neutral pocket and leaving the CB uptable is a very silly thing to do in one pocket
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The "easy setup" shot from closer to the side rail (at a little higher speed) works out exactly the same. Both of these are hit centerball.
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I thought the same thing when I read this but didnt want to point out the obvious.
It could happen playing someone where their fouls dont count
As for Bob's scenario he slept that due to a scratch there will be a ball on the spot and 1 in the kitchen.
In reality if you miss a spot shot you are probably giving up a return shot. Get close enough to the pocket to come off the points and there is trouble ahead. Shoot hard enough to get whitey uptable and that object ball has to go somewhere. You didnt hit the shot right it doesnt have to work out right.
Are you saying that if you shoot both shots to get the cueball to the same position on the side rail of your pocket , that the object ball, if it doesn't go in the pocket, travels the same distance?
In my post I was only trying to get the cueball to the head rail to begin with , and I know that doesn't work out the same , I know you are a good player , so we have to be talking about something different in the shot.
Huh? It is pretty common scenario to hav a single ball left in the game and a scratch to occur. Only one ball spots in that case and the position of the single ball preceding the scratch could be unplayable...as bob said, coz it is behind the headstring, though it could really be anywhere that is less favorable to incoming player than the spotted ball.I thought the same thing when I read this but didnt want to point out the obvious.
It could happen playing someone where their fouls dont count
As for Bob's scenario he slept that due to a scratch there will be a ball on the spot and 1 in the kitchen.
In reality if you miss a spot shot you are probably giving up a return shot. Get close enough to the pocket to come off the points and there is trouble ahead. Shoot hard enough to get whitey uptable and that object ball has to go somewhere. You didnt hit the shot right it doesnt have to work out right.