In bold....I agree 100%.
This guy supports the idea that all aiming systems are bogus. They only help to get you close.
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In bold....I agree 100%.
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That doesn't make them bogus - it makes them aiming systems. Claiming they're "objective" is bogus.
pj
chgo
Almost all aiming systems work! Minor detail, the shooter has to be able to adjust to current conditions. Many years ago somebody at Greenway was steering road players at me and a few told me I was in their "book" of local players that road players swapped information about. The little bar I could be found at early and late was tiny, two bar tables and a narrow bathroom filled one side of it front to back! With doors by both tables weather conditions were a major factor. More important on the really tough shots, the side light on those tables was very close to as strong as the overhead light. Took me several months to figure out that lighting made the balls appear slightly to the south side of where they were. Didn't matter until you were shooting a razor thin cut or a long bank, then you were apt to miss just enough to keep a ball out of a pocket! I burned at least a handful of road players on those tables. I suspect that like me when I first played those tables they thought their game was a little off without understanding why!
Even today I watch for gaff conditions like a HVAC vent blowing on a table and try to never shoot on a table near a door. Another wicked old table had been moved to the front of a bar to pull in customers showing in a big window. For a couple hours in the afternoon one whole long rail was a safety zone! You bent over to shoot cross table and looked directly into a blazing sun!
Aiming systems are wonderful things, as long as you understand how to modify them.
Hu
Mmmm... Did someone say, CHICKEN WINGS?
Or maybe, JV, you were referring to a certain someone?
I'm hungry.
Mmmmm.....those look great!
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Good response! I agree completely!!!
I think the correct training for a beginning pool player is to almost completely forget about ball pocketing until the trainee understands and executes a straight stroke consistently - every other aspect from cue address to putting the ball in the hole should follow - I know that sounds boring as hell and way too parochial a method- but man, I sure wish that someone had started me that way!
At 67 I am rebuilding my game after realizing that 90% of my misses had nothing to do with my aiming - and I was always considered a good player from a young age; now I know why I was only "good" - this OP, IMO, is correct, my lack of reaching my full potential had very little to do with not aiming properly- and I think that is his main point here- could not agree more. Walk into any pool room and, once you know what everything SHOULD look like- look around and see all the flaws that folks have incorporated into their game.
At 67 I am rebuilding my game after realizing that 90% of my misses had nothing to do with my aiming - and I was always considered a good player from a young age; now I know why I was only "good" - this OP, IMO, is correct, my lack of reaching my full potential had very little to do with not aiming properly- and I think that is his main point here- could not agree more. Walk into any pool room and, once you know what everything SHOULD look like- look around and see all the flaws that folks have incorporated into their game.
middleofnowhere
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I think playing with a conscious system is probably more of a training device. As you become an experienced player all of the nuances of pocketing a pool ball playing position I think function on a subconscious level.
If it didn't explaine the one handed player, the wing shot, or players who can just stand up and knock balls in without even looking at them. I'm one of them.
In fact you become a really good player when you stop thinking almost all together and trust your learned skills. I don't know, i've been playing since I'm about 8 years old and from the first time I started playing the game seemed easy.
I don't think I can remember anybody even showing me how to hit a ball. I'm sure I must have picked up something just from being around good players but I don't know, perhaps I do use the system and I just don't know it.
I got the CDs on center to edge and I watched them and it makes sense I can understand them and it does work but it's not something you can continually consciously do. Or maybe would even want to.
If it didn't explaine the one handed player, the wing shot, or players who can just stand up and knock balls in without even looking at them. I'm one of them.
In fact you become a really good player when you stop thinking almost all together and trust your learned skills. I don't know, i've been playing since I'm about 8 years old and from the first time I started playing the game seemed easy.
I don't think I can remember anybody even showing me how to hit a ball. I'm sure I must have picked up something just from being around good players but I don't know, perhaps I do use the system and I just don't know it.
I got the CDs on center to edge and I watched them and it makes sense I can understand them and it does work but it's not something you can continually consciously do. Or maybe would even want to.
That’s not good enough sometimes
Speed makes a ball go different places
I thought I knew a lot about conditions...Larry Liscotti increased that knowledge for me. He liked to bet on me ‘cause he knew I was road tough
Geosnookery
Well-known member
Much, much too complicated to follow. Be best if you broke it down and put it on a 12 part DVD set only $99.
...with a complementary koolaid packet to be used only when the mothership returns
You either get smart and tough or you get broke! I have had the classic done to me. Straight in the corner on the money ball, the guy I was playing had a wife or girlfriend with him. When I bent over to shoot she bent over the pocket and dropped her rack out. "Not bad, but I have seen better" No way I was distracted enough to miss a straight in shot at a bucket, I just aimed for the cleavage! I think my comment made them madder than taking down the coin.