Is SVB winning less tourneys since switching to cf?

[smoochie]

On paper yes he is. -- I know people love to speculate and guess to find reasons. But the OP asked very simple question and if you find the information and wrote it down on papers then yes he is winning FAR LESS since switching on CF. I don't want to speculate like others or give reasons based on guesses though.

 

[hotelyorba]

As for Niels, due to Covid he just focused on other things for now and cut his travels short. He still practices and plays a lot, but rather local, close to his home and family. I'm sure once there are no more potential issues with international travel, he will be spotted at all the major tournaments again.

I know what he has been doing, as a European I always follow the eurotours and the European Championships and then you can see him ending up in the last 16 at best most of the time, where he previously always was a candidate for the finals.

 

[easy-e]

Filler can shoot with whatever Predator shaft he wants because Predator has DOZENS of top pro sponsors to represent their 4 ld shafts line-up.
Cuetec had ONE top pro sponsor- SVB. They scrambled to stay afloat during the cf boom and introduced the Cynergy shaft.
There is no way in hell this shaft would've taken off like it did without SVB switching to it. He HAD to, or lose his sponsorship with Cuetec (they would've been able to grab another top player to replace him, trust me money talks).
SVB made the correct- albiet somewhat forced- business decision and switched to the Cynergy.
Whether or not he plays better with it is the question. (He shot lights out with his Schon/Joss combo before the R360 too btw)
You are correct about the increased number of top players in the past 5 years or so. Maybe these young guns are just too good for him in tourneys.

You make a lot of assumptions.

 

[smoochie]

Fedor is also one of the hottest shooters in the world right now, he uses CF. A bunch of other shooters use CF shafts like Sanchez-Ruiz, Chang (Who in my opinion is one of the best shooters in the world), Oi who is playing great, Ouschan ended the year as the #1 shooter.

You're seeing what you want to see.

you haven't seen fedor playing with wood. What if fedor is 10 times better and we just havent seen it yet lol.

also Oi played with CF for few months then threw it away.

 

[xX-Wizard-Xx]

you haven't seen fedor playing with wood. What if fedor is 10 times better and we just havent seen it yet lol.

also Oi played with CF for few months then threw it away.

most of the reasn why these professionals are playing with CF they are getting paid to use them and promote them. These guys could play just as well with LD maple shafts as with CF

 

[xX-Wizard-Xx]

They are probably chasing hype as well as any other player. trying to find something they think will take their game to the next level...

 

[bbb]

I think he’s winning less because his fishing rods are carbon fiber not because of his cue shafts
Jmho
Icbw

 

[xX-Wizard-Xx]

I think he’s winning less because his fishing rods are carbon fiber not because of his cue shafts
Jmho
Icbw

you might be on to something

 

[garczar]

Filler can shoot with whatever Predator shaft he wants because Predator has DOZENS of top pro sponsors to represent their 4 ld shafts line-up.
Cuetec had ONE top pro sponsor- SVB. They scrambled to stay afloat during the cf boom and introduced the Cynergy shaft.
There is no way in hell this shaft would've taken off like it did without SVB switching to it. He HAD to, or lose his sponsorship with Cuetec (they would've been able to grab another top player to replace him, trust me money talks).
SVB made the correct- albiet somewhat forced- business decision and switched to the Cynergy.
Whether or not he plays better with it is the question. (He shot lights out with his Schon/Joss combo before the R360 too btw)
You are correct about the increased number of top players in the past 5 years or so. Maybe these young guns are just too good for him in tourneys.

are you braindead?? SVB did not HAVE to go to CF. How many times are you going to keep saying this bullshit?????

 

[sjm]

I think the increased use of neutral rackers in the late rounds of all the majors is a factor worthy of consideration. In major tournament play, rack your own is on the endangered list.

Also relevant is the increased use of alternate break in major tournament play. More than any player of the last fifteen years, Shane has relied on stringing together packages, and thereby getting opponents frustrated and out of stroke.

Finally, the frequent use of the three-point rule hasn't helped Shane in recent years, as having to cut break in nine-ball, as so many players do when the three-point rule is in effect, to ensure compliance, hasn't helped his cause. At the International 9-ball, in the semis against Albin Ouschan, Shane really struggled with his break, and it cost him. On the bright side, Matchroom has announced the intent to do away with the three-point rule, and this will help him.

Shane, still one of the elite players, does best with rack your own, winner breaks and no three-point rule, but these days, he only seems able to get all three in gambling matches, and insists on them during pre-match negotiations.

I'm no expert on carbon fiber, but my sense of things is that Shane's major title drought of recent years has little to do with his switch to carbon fiber.

 

[easy-e]

The short answer to the OP's question is "yes". SVB is winning less tournaments since switching to CF.

Have I gained weight since my nephew started Kindergarten in Colorado? Also "yes".

 

[Don Quichotte]

didn't shane win the MC with that shaft?

And SJM: right on the money!

 

[xX-Wizard-Xx]

didn't shane win the MC with that shaft?

And SJM: right on the money!

it was an accident

 

[Don Quichotte]

without being biassed: how was that an accident?

 

[rexus31]

Filler can shoot with whatever Predator shaft he wants because Predator has DOZENS of top pro sponsors to represent their 4 ld shafts line-up.
Cuetec had ONE top pro sponsor- SVB. They scrambled to stay afloat during the cf boom and introduced the Cynergy shaft.
There is no way in hell this shaft would've taken off like it did without SVB switching to it. He HAD to, or lose his sponsorship with Cuetec (they would've been able to grab another top player to replace him, trust me money talks).
SVB made the correct- albiet somewhat forced- business decision and switched to the Cynergy.
Whether or not he plays better with it is the question. (He shot lights out with his Schon/Joss combo before the R360 too btw)
You are correct about the increased number of top players in the past 5 years or so. Maybe these young guns are just too good for him in tourneys.

It's funny to me how you completely ignored my post (#31) which was chocked full of facts discrediting your thesis. Let me spell it out for you in plain English: Shane was not forced to play with a Cynergy shaft. Cuetec was developing a carbon fiber shaft to compete in the marketplace. As Cuetec's top sponsored player, he obviously had the opportunity to hit with the prototypes and liked them...a lot. He became very involved in the development of the shaft and was afforded the opportunity to have his sponsor basically make a carbon fiber shaft to his exact specifications. That's the luxury of Cuetec having "ONE top pro sponsor". I don't think any of the Predator sponsored players had this opportunity.

 

[9ballhasbeen]

It seems to me that Shane was dominating everything with his cuetec R360 shaft, and shot straight as hell. But, in the past few years since switching to the cf Cynergy shaft, he doesn't seem to place as high in events and seems to miss more often. Anyone else noticing this?
I'm pretty sure Cuetec "forced" him to use and endorse the Cynergy shaft (and for the steady contract money I don't blame him), but I wonder how he'd be doing now if he still used the R360? Thoughts?

That must be it... Clearly you don't know how absolutely competitive Shane Van Boening is. This guy throws away second place trophies..

SVB won player of the decade and has been using Cynergy since 2018...

I guess based on your logic, Fedor Gorst must also be really suffering using the Cynergy Shaft too. Only the youngest ever Master of the Table, and he was the first player to win a world title using a CF playing shaft.

 

[RunoutJJ]

Shane a bum that just like to fish nowadays

 

[garczar]

It's funny to me how you completely ignored my post (#31) which was chocked full of facts discrediting your thesis. Let me spell it out for you in plain English: Shane was not forced to play with a Cynergy shaft. Cuetec was developing a carbon fiber shaft to compete in the marketplace. As Cuetec's top sponsored player, he obviously had the opportunity to hit with the prototypes and liked them...a lot. He became very involved in the development of the shaft and was afforded the opportunity to have his sponsor basically make a carbon fiber shaft to his exact specifications. That's the luxury of Cuetec having "ONE top pro sponsor". I don't think any of the Predator sponsored players had this opportunity.

that dude is denser than granite. don't know where people hear this shit. probably don't, just make it up on the fly. they feel/think it so it has to be true. like watchin' cnn.

 

[Jaden]

Shane is currently the highest fargo ranked player in the world, so he isn't underperforming on a case by case basis for sure He hasn't participated in as many tourneys and may not be dominating quite as well as he has in the past and his slight lack of dominance may or may not be related to equipment, but it's not like he's dropped off substantially or anything...

Jaden

 

[Woodshaft]

I hope you all are right about Shane lol, really like the guy!
And remember, the title of the thread is "Is SVB winning less tourneys since SWITCHING to cf?", not "...BECAUSE of switching to cf?"
The answer to that is "yes" when it comes to tourneys up against the top 30 guys.
I'm not talking about his 1 v 1 battles, just big kids tourneys.
Anyways, c'mon Shane, show these young guns, grab a major event this year-- get'em!!!