You could do as you wish, stock is what I ride.
D Appleton is against pivoting for spin ?
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You could do as you wish, stock is what I ride.
1) The pros who do it on every stroke find it reliable.
2) When using english, it provides better results IMHO.
This was NOT the post BilliardsAbout made:
BilliardsAbout said:
When using english, [swooping] provides better results IMHO.
He posted: 2) When using english, IT provides better results IMHO.
YOU added [swooping] into his post. Preset BHE or minimal dynamic pivoting to CCB or slightly off axis and swooping are two different movements and you damn well know it. (or maybe you don't)
Swooping has a fairly large BH movement.
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dquarasr
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What do you think the word “it” in Matt’s response means? From an easily-found Google dictionary:
pronoun
- 1.
used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
"a room with two beds in it"
What do YOU think "IT" means based on the way he phrased it? Do you know what "swooping" means when striking the CB as PJ posted?
Is it the same as BHE?
Swooping:
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dquarasr
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Is this a test?
Sorry, not gonna play. I know what I know irrespective of what you think I know.
It was a question. Do you think it was a test?
I know you don't know a helluva lot about CTE, that's for sure. I don't think you know what you think you know either.
Here's a question for you. Is it a test? That's up to you to decide. I call it a question.
Ron Vitello created an aiming system called 90/90. He referred to it as a pivot aiming system. Some might call it "swooping".
What do YOU think it is...BH pivoting or swooping? Why, either way?
lol
Matt was responding directly to me and my description of a swooping stroke, as clearly shown above.
If you were here to converse instead of to scrounge for "attack" ammo you might embarrass yourself less often.
pj <- but I doubt it
chgo
I don't get embarrassed about anything anymore than you do. If anyone should be embarrassed it's YOU after 25 years of cluelessness about CTE and their pivots either manually or visually (which is something you know absolutely ZERO about but keep opening your stupid mouth. Thousands worldwide know differently. You LOSE!
So, here's a swooping stroke on every shot. Would you agree? Why is it bad?
Our little exchange above is why I won't bother trying to have civilized conversation with you. I'll be happy to hear Matt's answer and respond to that - he seems more capable of adult conversation.
pj
chgo
Awwww man, you're breaking my heart after all of these years. Does this mean you aren't going to post to me about anything for the rest of your time on Earth? You're going to miss me, I know it. Somehow or another, I think I'll get over it really quick.
Don't go back on your word now.
I'd be surprised if Matt gave an answer to you. He's way too familiar with your bullshit and where it's headed or could end up if he did.
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I'd be pleased to address 2) after you address 1):
Since up to Hall of Fame level pros will address the ball faraway from where they impact the cue ball with their final stroke, and since you wrote that backhand motion is sub-optimal, what do these pros do to compensate of fix the issue with their strokes, do you think?
I think they have lots of innate talent and decades of experience doing it - unlike 99.99% of players.
How so?
pj
chgo
Had a great local player years ago that addressed the cb at low right for every shot. Of course, he wasn't using low right on every shot. And he also wasn't swooping or arcing his cue to the desired cb hit on his final stroke either. His final forward stroke was straight and true.
I'm not saying there is never a shot where a good player might arc/swoop the tip into the cb, because there are some shots where a pinching type of cb hit seems to be effective. But, honestly, the same results could be achieved without doing it that way. It's basically a feel thing. Most players tend to do whatever feels right in order to be successful.
Sounds like a recipe to be all out of whack, kinda like a little old half tip pivot lol.
I said it once, and I'll say it again. Those who play with a swooping stroke have the added element of timing within their shot mechanics. IMO there's NO value to it and opens the door to a metric shit ton of issues, but it does also add a 'se ne sais quoi' flare to their games.
When it's going good to great to see. When it's bad it comically horrible to watch. Only the very strong and well practiced can consistently produce professional results with the "technique" (<-used very loosely).
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When it's going good to great to see. When it's bad it comically horrible to watch. Only the very strong and well practiced can consistently produce professional results with the "technique" (<-used very loosely).
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I’ll ask you the same question I’ve asked Matt above: How so? What value that isn’t available with a straight stroke?
pj
chgo
lol... I think quicker than I can type. I meant to post, "IMO there's NO value to it"
apologies
the only value is you hide it from the other guy and leave him wondering what happened