US Open hard to watch

I absolutely love the new ball colors. They should have done this decades ago! Hell, make them all purple. But a shot clock would be nice. Kaci seemed to take forever in the match I saw. Overall it’s a great stream, especially considering it’s free.
I don't know what Kacis nickname is, if he has one. But it should be "senor snooze".

Pool used to be more fun when people actually shot fast for the most part.

Purple 5 sucks. It's horrible and will never seize to be horrible. F. Matchroom for doing this, then totally ignoring protests to protect their own egos.
it's that simple. with no shot clock even fast players take more time than necessary because of the occasion. and watching the slow players is interminable. it makes me adverse to them as players, i'm rooting against kaci now.
It's not exactly new for him to be slow. Remember his match against Ruiz years ago? Whenever I see his name, I don't watch the match, unless there is a shot clock. Even then, you know he's going to ride that clock out every shot, even if it's a stop shot 2 inches from the pocket.
 
I keep not getting used to that 5 ball. I'm always looking at that as the next shot after the 3, wondering what the heck the player was doing, then realizing for the umpteenth time the 4 ball is pink.

The combination double then single elimination tournament is very odd to me. Either have it single elimination the entire time or double elimination the entire time. It is strange having guys with one loss moving on, while other guys with one loss are eliminated. At the very least, have longer races once it's single-elimination.

Having to track down streams on different platforms is a bit of a pain, for sure.

That all said, I think Matchroom has done a great job, overall. I've been watching lots of great matches for free. SVB v Kazakis and Filler v Styer were great fun. Both Melling and Kaci look like they are on a mission. I can't wait to see how it all plays out.
 
People here complain about pro players today who look robotic in their table approach, set up, and stroke mechanics. they complain that players actually study the table so that they are less prone to "mistakes". Well, for a guy who has been around pool for almost 60 years here is my 2 cents:

Fifty years ago you had a few great pro players, and 90% of the amateur ranks had really no idea what they were doing at the table, because there was almost no quality instruction available or being shared by the best players, except for a few books. Now you have many, many more great players and many, many more folks in the amateur ranks who are much better than amateurs from years ago. It is all about the quality and quantity for instruction available today.

Way back in the day, the ONLY route to being really good player for many, many guys was to basically drop out of school, or drop completely out of the work world and stay in pool rooms almost 24/7; until even your worst pool mechanics got over shadowed by the thousands of hours you spent at the table. Many of the U.S. pro players came out of pool rooms owned by their Dad's and they were in those rooms since childhood and they had exposure to top flight players from a young age. Even emerging 70s pros like Mizerak, Varner, Balukas, Butera, Zuglan, etc. etc. came out of family owned pool rooms.

Today you can learn to play in a manner that will almost insure success in this game if you have the desire and dedication. Correct instruction is available to everyone. I personally have spent the last 18 months in retirement married to the video camera desperately trying to undo ALL the wrong cueing habits that I adopted as a player prior to the internet age. I finally have the time to unwind the years of doing things "wrong" - even though at times I won tournaments or placed high in larger tournaments.

So I welcome the "robots" - learning what truly works IS the proper way to start out in any sport. Every sport has buried the sandlot player and now the technically "correct" players are dominating everywhere. It is the times that we live in today. Gone are the farm boy pitchers who learned by throwing into the side of. barn, the pro golfers who graduated from caddies to golf hustlers to pros, and also, for pool, gone are most of the colorful street wise hustlers who never picked up anything but a cue stick in their lives.

Yes, the game was certainly more colorful "back in the day", and, yes. there was a looseness and non- parochial feel and look to the game that in many ways did make it more entertaining back then. However, the opportunities to get really good at this game are much greater today and hopefully that will translate to the enhancement of the pool game going forward.

We just need to find enough young people here in the U.S. who have the desire and willingness to adhere to the discipline that top flight competitive pool demands today; because they love the pleasures of small motions.
 
Is anyone else finding it hard to watch, no shot clock on the tv table is brutally slow and the purple 5 ball is so distracting.
Everytime I try to watch it gets frustrating,bend down look and stands up 5 or six times or more, walk around the table 3 times on the simplest shots.
Also how can you have a tournament were some players have 1 lose and are eliminated and other 1 lose player is still playing? Why would they want a tournament that could have the whole field have 1 lose but still have a champion? Just when pool seems to be having a resurgence they feel like they have to make changes to me are a negative!

I think you are a bit overstating the brutally slow part. I have watched almost all the matches and there were maybe a few dozen shots where the player took some extra time to think.
 
It will be interesting today when Filler plays Kaci .... with a shot clock. I'm thinking 10-3/10-4 Filler.
LMAO, this went over well :ROFLMAO: You guys think Kaci can't play a lick with the shotclock? Give me a break.

All these players will play slower without a shot clock. Like Fatboy said, you'll see the best error free, quality matches without a shot clock more times than with a shot clock. There is no room for error at this level. These guys have to cover all the "Bases" at all times on every shot.
 
I watched the recently posted Accu-Stats match between Jennifer Lee and Viv Villareal from 1999. It was a pleasure, their sportsmanship was refreshing, they didn't labor over any shot, and they were playing on much slower cloth than today. Pool is a rhythm game and it is impossible for me to watch players go into detailed analysis every time they pocket a ball. They used to complain that straight pool was boring to watch LOL.

-dj
 
I watched the recently posted Accu-Stats match between Jennifer Lee and Viv Villareal from 1999. It was a pleasure, their sportsmanship was refreshing, they didn't labor over any shot, and they were playing on much slower cloth than today. Pool is a rhythm game and it is impossible for me to watch players go into detailed analysis every time they pocket a ball. They used to complain that straight pool was boring to watch LOL.

-dj

Sure, but put one of these ladies up against any of the last remaining players in the US open and they're getting smoked.
 
Buddy played slow-as-shit and nobody squealed. Is there some rule that everyone has to play 9b at warp-speed??? go play for this kind of money/prestige and see if you don't slow down. If you don't choke up a furball first. ;)
buddy was no robot and not near as slow as kaci and gorst even with his size
the rule you ask about is slow 9 ball sucks ass
 
buddy was no robot and not near as slow as kaci and gorst even with his size
the rule you ask about is slow 9 ball sucks ass
you didn't see him play much then. Buddy could be 'leisurely' to be polite. He wasn't the only one to play slow. LOTS of great players would go into 'creep mode' to beat fast/twitchy players. I saw J.Walden put the slow mode on an actual world champion and beat him so bad he was out in the parking lot crying. Part of the game.
 
I watched the recently posted Accu-Stats match between Jennifer Lee and Viv Villareal from 1999. It was a pleasure, their sportsmanship was refreshing, they didn't labor over any shot, and they were playing on much slower cloth than today. Pool is a rhythm game and it is impossible for me to watch players go into detailed analysis every time they pocket a ball. They used to complain that straight pool was boring to watch LOL.

-dj
I watched that too. They looked like they were having fun. Two entirely different games vs. this year's open.
 
I don't know what Kacis nickname is, if he has one. But it should be "senor snooze". ...
From the InnerWebz:

Between 1915 and 1916, Frank Taberski became the world champion [...] He gained two nicknames for his playing style, “The Sloth” and “The Inexorable Snail,” because he played with a slow, deliberate manner, taking several minutes to ponder his next move, which psyched out his opponents. Because of this style, a new rule was conceived that put a three-minute limit on the time between shots.
Three minute shot clock? I guess people had more patience 100 years ago. There is story about Taberski pondering a shot at straight pool for twenty minutes. What to shoot, what to shoot? He then played the obvious safety. The crowd was not pleased.

Kaci was very slow the first time I saw him (2017 US Open?) but he sped up for a while. His 8-pack of 10 ball against Pagulayan was mostly brisk.
 
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