US Open 9-Ball, 2023, Atlantic City, Sep 25-30
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A lot different. In casinos many events are "four wall" deals, meaning the event producer gets the ballroom for free but all costs of producing the event falls on them. The event producer gets the live gate and all income generated inside the four walls, except the casino owns the bar inside the venue. Events like these are typical for music, comedy, magic acts etc. The casino benefits by the number of people drawn to the event who partake in the casino offerings both before and after the event is over. If an event will draw large crowds that makes it worthwhile for the casino to offer a four wall deal.
In some events like pool tournaments, the event producer gets a percentage of the room rent that participants who stay at the host hotel pay. This typically might be 10% per room night. So if you are a participant and are paying $125 a night for seven nights, the total you pay for lodging is $875. The event producer (in this case Mathroom) would receive an $87.50 cut or percentage of that charge. It can be very lucrative for an event producer and is why they may require participants to stay at the host hotel. Theoretically let's multiply $87.50 times 256 participants. That comes out to $22,400! I did many events with such an arrangement and always made an extra four figure bonus at the end. In my day it was hard to make ends meet as an event producer of pool tournaments. It took a combination of sponsor monies, vendor booth sales, the live gate and room rent kickbacks to make it work. Even then I may work for six months to produce an event where I made $20-25,000 when it was all over. Not such a big payday.
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Dennis Orcollo I think not.
Filler, Inc. should be the groaners.
It appears a business-essential was left for the last moment?
But I've also seen contracts that require a penalty payment if the event does not reach a certain level of room-nights. Risky for the organizer.
any news on that?
Hoping a Yankee finally ends the drought.
Good to see Corey on the list.
I see Pia on the list. I checked the bracket and didn’t see any other ladies. Is she the only one? Maybe I missed some?
I see Pia on the list. I checked the bracket and didn’t see any other ladies. Is she the only one? Maybe I missed some?
I think they were trying for months and kept having trouble.
Or, I might be thinking about Fedor. One of them had their passport shipped all over the world to get the visas for multiple countries.
Very true Bob. I often had to guarantee X number of room nights or be charged to make up the difference. In most cases (example the Sands in Reno), I had to fill at least 100 rooms per night, for a total of 500 room nights over five days. I usually would do 800+ room nights at the U.S. Bar Table Championships each year at the Sands. The rooms there were deeply discounted ($35-45 per night) and I was only getting a kickback of five dollars per room night, so you do the math. That check from the Sands was enough to pay my staff so it was very helpful in covering my expenses.
You're right.. my comment was from a very uneducated perspective regarding their awareness of immigration law and ability to handle the administrative stuff.
I worked at a place that had maybe a thousand people who needed visas and there was a staff assigned to manage that process... So obviously there is specialized knowledge and skill necessary to never drop that ball.
And then when each individual has to handle that process for himself, you got different abilities and priorities for each.
Other duties, as assigned.
i would assume so, one tv table on youtube and the other on DAZN
darren estimated that about 25-30 players could win the title. he included chinese players though, who i don't think are there. either way it's a rather high estimate.
Based on the play over the weekend at Shaws room. Smart money is still on Shane.
Tell that to Howard vickery