Hunter v Frost, your stance?

[ShootingArts]

Slow morning so I spent more time on this. Looking at where the six ball is and Scott's "generous frame", nobody can see if contact occurred. Assumptions were made. Aside from other considerations, the witness' elevation would make seeing contact impossible. I will stick with my opinion a bad call was made.

However, in reviewing the video over and over I noticed something that appears damning. At just past the thirty second mark Scott seems a little startled by what he feels. His back and shoulders rise while his head stays down, apparently to look at what he felt. After reviewing the video over and over, it seems very likely he felt the six ball.

I still believe a bad call was made later but perhaps Scott's conscious wasn't lily white after getting away with touching the six earlier.

Just speculation of course but Scott's body language appears to tell the story.

Hu

 

[JoeyInCali]

I can see half naked pro players playing from hereon.
That or they'll be duct taping their shirts

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

I think I can speak for myself and all other fat pool players when I say, BAN THE SHIRT FOUL!!!

 

[garczar]

I think I can speak for myself and all other fat pool players when I say, BAN THE SHIRT FOUL!!!

If there's no ref it should be CB fouls only. Players shouldn't be calling this nitty shit.

 

[SBC]

Go rewatch the video because you have your timeline wrong. Scott got up and tucked in his shirt long before ever Hunter spoke up.

Yeah
Hunter can't call a foul he couldn't see....and hunter simply told him " you are on the 6 ball"....which implies he hadn't called a foul

 

[SBC]

You know, you can just say ref. You don't have to say "Lady Ref"...

Ref who's a lady

You wanna bet she can't run a rack of 6 ball.....like ever?

 

[SBC]

I'm not sure what you don't understand here. Touching a ball during your shot constitutes a foul. You don't just get a do-over when you commit a foul -- you give up ball in hand. Wu Jia Qing lost in the finals of the US open a few years ago in a similar situation -- he accidentally touched the 4 ball for a split second when he was getting down to cue his shot. Should he have just been given a mulligan and gotten a chance to run out the rack? Maybe you're just used to only playing in gambling matches, but in professional sports, you don't get a pass for violating the rules.

Bro
Who's to say he touched it. Hunter was behind him. I'm not giving up the table ever when some dude in the audience called the foul.

 

[maha]

if you are going to have all balls foul. then the rule should be the ball must visibly move.

 

[something_pool]

Bro
Who's to say he touched it. Hunter was behind him. I'm not giving up the table ever when some dude in the audience called the foul.

The ref is to say. That's literally her job. Stop whining about a call you don't like.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Bro
Who's to say he touched it. Hunter was behind him. I'm not giving up the table ever when some dude in the audience called the foul.

Hunter was NOT behind him, he was NEXT to him. A simple lean forward, if even needed, was all he needed to do to see the ball.

 

[book collector]

Yall comparing dumb shit an getting off topic about what happened

and you are surprised ...how?

 

[SBC]

Hunter was NOT beside him, he was NEXT to him. A simple lean forward, if even needed, was all he needed to do to see the ball.

You guys aren't real players....think...do... whatever makes you feel like champions

 

[Chili Palmer]

Bro
Who's to say he touched it. Hunter was behind him. I'm not giving up the table ever when some dude in the audience called the foul.

This is Frost turning his head and LOOKING directly at Hunter, Hunter was not behind him, Hunter was in the perfect place to see that foul.

 

[SBC]

The ref is to say. That's literally her job. Stop whining about a call you don't like.

If you knew anything you'd know that ref was told later she made a bad call. That Emily has already admitted "mistakes were made and changes will be implemented ". But keep on acting like you are her big brother....

 

[ShortBusRuss]

Like your man hero is going to do anything....and he's out of this the next round

Why don't you figure out how you can bet something on Hunter Lombardo wining anything and bet high. Cuz I'd love to take your money. Guy made $8,400 this year playing pool. He's no worldbeater.

Nah, I am good. They were basically both dead money going into the tournament. Scott might have made it one more round, but that is it.

But just wanted to bring your attention to the fact. I agree that Hunter is dead money in this event, and was unlikely to make it past the next round once he beat Scott....... But Scott would have only won by 1 game.

So, even if Scott "had" beat the dead money guy... He only would have barely gotten there, as it is. Which basically made him dead money, too.

 

[bbb]

If you knew anything you'd know that ref was told later she made a bad call. That Emily has already admitted "mistakes were made and changes will be implemented ". But keep on acting like you are her big brother....

Could you link her comments?
I dont do facebook

 

[abbassi]

I think I can speak for myself and all other fat pool players when I say, BAN THE SHIRT FOUL!!!

Shirt fouls favor the skinny player

 

[jalapus logan]

Shirt fouls favor the skinny player

So, to sum this up after copious posts....we can now add to the list of potential game making spots the No Shirt/Attire Foul Spot, whereby one player abides by such infractions and the other is unencumbered should such an incident occur while shooting.

This should probably be ranked just under the Hand Span Spot.

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Shirt fouls favor the skinny player

Exactly. Where is an ACLU lawyer when you need one lol

 

[The_JV]

And Hunter needed to call them over

Totally agree.... The way it was handled was poorly done imo. Doesn't change the fact that Scott fouled, and the appropriate outcome of Hunter's BIH occurred...