In a recent interview Buddy said when Efren first came to the states he beat him 21 consecutive times...a prime Efren...21 times..
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23, but what’s a couple of sets…
But, new internet posters don’t want to believe it. Buddy was always a favorite over Efren in 9-ball.
Efren yes, Parica no.
The one shot that Parica had that in my opinion he had miles above other players was the blind back cut. All the players could make it, but Parica would always have one of these shots a rack, like he relished them. And he shot them with such confidence, so much that even today, any time I’m faced with that type of shot, in my mind I’m thinking Parica and not any other player. Also, as @jay helfert highlighted many years ago, Parica and subsequently other Filipinos used follow better than their non-Filipino counterparts. Players can really up their game studying how Parica (and Alex) used follow.
Buddy and I played in the same pool room in Paducah, Kentucky. I asked him several questions over the years.
1.) He laughed when I asked him his high run in straight pool, he said maybe 50 as he never played it.
2.) The most he ever made was $100K in one year in Tulsa. I was sure that it would have been in Shreveport as there were lots of stories of him playing there.
3.) I asked him about Bill Cardona playing 9 ball and he said there was time that Billy was tops or just as tough as anyone. Pretty rare that a pool player saying good things about another player.
4.) As noted in thread, he said Wimpy was the best 9 baller he ever saw.
5.) He said it didnt make a difference how big the spot was if they never got to shoot. Pretty ballsy thing to say.
IMO, the reason he as so damn good was his INCREDIBLE cue ball control. He never had to shoot a tough shot.
Secondly, while everyone talks about his 9 ball skills, but his bank pool game was awe inspiring. Its sad that nobody mentions it.
Ken
1.) He laughed when I asked him his high run in straight pool, he said maybe 50 as he never played it.
2.) The most he ever made was $100K in one year in Tulsa. I was sure that it would have been in Shreveport as there were lots of stories of him playing there.
3.) I asked him about Bill Cardona playing 9 ball and he said there was time that Billy was tops or just as tough as anyone. Pretty rare that a pool player saying good things about another player.
4.) As noted in thread, he said Wimpy was the best 9 baller he ever saw.
5.) He said it didnt make a difference how big the spot was if they never got to shoot. Pretty ballsy thing to say.
IMO, the reason he as so damn good was his INCREDIBLE cue ball control. He never had to shoot a tough shot.
Secondly, while everyone talks about his 9 ball skills, but his bank pool game was awe inspiring. Its sad that nobody mentions it.
Ken
Buddy live in Tulsa a few times. Back in the 60's-70's there was a ton of action in the area. Over in Sapulpa there was a real knife-n-gun club called the 'Little Dixie Ballroom' and Buddy made a ton there and at other 'high brow' establishments in the area. Barbox on Valleys, ol Cecil robbed 'em blind. He could play like Ned if he had to, rarely had to kick it into hi-gear unless he was givin up the nuts.
You beat me to it.
Parica was actually the leader of the Phillipino invasion, not Efren. Correct?
And didn't Efren say he would not play Parica for $$$?
And didn't Efren say he would not play Parica for $$$?
Don't know about the second part but Jose led the invasion.
jose came first.
all the top players beat each other at times under whatever conditions. few lost though on their home courts. that's where buddy played or at ones he was familiar with.
but for his time he was the best 9 ball player in the world. but the best was just a small amount better than the 2nd best.
lassiter as mentioned was the best for maybe the longest time and he won where ever he went. that's a big difference.
jose came to the us and played dan louie on a neutral court. i was there and had a bet on dan. which he won. then jose wouldnt play anymore.
so who beat who when and where means little in the scheme of things.
all the top players beat each other at times under whatever conditions. few lost though on their home courts. that's where buddy played or at ones he was familiar with.
but for his time he was the best 9 ball player in the world. but the best was just a small amount better than the 2nd best.
lassiter as mentioned was the best for maybe the longest time and he won where ever he went. that's a big difference.
jose came to the us and played dan louie on a neutral court. i was there and had a bet on dan. which he won. then jose wouldnt play anymore.
so who beat who when and where means little in the scheme of things.
I was in Griffs about a month ago and saw Parica briefly one night, said hello in passing. We hadn’t seen each other in a few years. I’ve seen him around since the mid 80’s. Anyways the next night I was back at Griffs settling up some bets and while I was there he walked up and we started talking for about 30 minutes. Catching up and talking about what’s happening these days and the past. Pretty cool.
Anyways one thing Parica said that stood out was “Efren got famous because of YouTube” to which I replied “He got lucky”.
I just couldn’t help myself……he agreed
Parica loves to talk about 1970 when he robbed Efren in the pi at some big tourney and his winning record against him back home.
He’s a great guy and always a pleasure to see and talk to. I wish I had a recording of that conversation. He’s healthy as can be
Anyways one thing Parica said that stood out was “Efren got famous because of YouTube” to which I replied “He got lucky”.
I just couldn’t help myself……he agreedParica loves to talk about 1970 when he robbed Efren in the pi at some big tourney and his winning record against him back home.
He’s a great guy and always a pleasure to see and talk to. I wish I had a recording of that conversation. He’s healthy as can be
He was in Tulsa back around '07-ish and he played all comers 1p for 5bux/game. That little sob left me FROZE on the head rail FIVE straight shots. He just grinned, it was awesome. His touch around the stack was just stupidly good.I was in Griffs about a month ago and saw Parica briefly one night, said hello in passing. We hadn’t seen each other in a few years. I’ve seen him around since the mid 80’s. Anyways the next night I was back at Griffs settling up some bets and while I was there he walked up and we started talking for about 30 minutes. Catching up and talking about what’s happening these days and the past. Pretty cool.
Anyways one thing Parica said that stood out was “Efren got famous because of YouTube” to which I replied “He got lucky”.
Parica loves to talk about 1970 when he robbed Efren in the pi at some big tourney and his winning record against him back home.
He’s a great guy and always a pleasure to see and talk to. I wish I had a recording of that conversation. He’s healthy as can be
I saw Parica play at the '84. Ceasars Tahoe event.
I doubt Efren ever would say that, but when Efren had become a world class player, he was considered the 2nd best player from the PI. Of course, he was still “Bata” (The Kid) and Parica was “Amang” (The Man). Reports are that Efren had a losing record to Parica.
You forget there’s a 3rd name in the equation that was before them.
Bustamonte?
Jose's dad?