Brunswick gold crown 7 video ..everything new walk through from the expo!

Gold Crown was the "gold standard" for pool tables before Diamond came along. Depending on how they compete with Diamond to room owners and the quality of the tables will determine how successful they are. People that compete buy Diamonds now to practice on what they compete on. They may be getting Gold Crowns soon for the same reason. While Brunswick didn't say so, I'm sure pro's with a decent track record will be getting deals on sevens too. Some will probably be given or loaned tables.

They put some R&D into the tables and talk a good talk but I would wait and see even if I had a place for one. I have zero interest in a ball return table and my first question is how deep are the pockets? ball blockers and pockets that only hold three or four balls before them starting hopping out aren't going to cut it. They had the display table set up with four inch pockets and he bragged about it spitting balls back. Too bad about that will turn people off in a hurry!

The cushions are a big question mark. Aluminum rails too. Snooker tables with steel subrails play different than snooker tables with wooden subrails. If they got the rails and cushions right, as in banks longer than a Diamond, they could get popular. Banks like a Diamond makes it a wash, and shorter than a blue label, forget about it!

I also understood the framing to be carbon steel, black iron, and lighter than wood. All of the aluminum and steel does have me wondering about expansion rates. I am a little uncomfortable with black iron anyway. Is it subject to chipping or rust? Those nice looking corners are blued too. Last I knew aluminum is almost impossible to blue and bluing isn't a very durable finish anyway if it sees a lot of use like the constant rubbing a corner will get in a commercial environment. I suspect that all of my questions have been addressed but this is a ground up new design. I expect some bugs when they first hit the market in real world use.

Interesting that Brunswick has put the effort into rolling out the GC7 that it has. It could be the greatest thing since bottled beer, or not.

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The GC7 is not yet listed on the Brunswick site. I think about November 1st needs to be the goal for Xmas shopping.
 
Interesting that Brunswick has put the effort into rolling out the GC7 that it has. It could be the greatest thing since bottled beer, or not.

Hu
If the 7 is a 5 star wow I'd consider swapping the 9ft Professional. I simple love a traditional looking GC. The switch would be based on having a 1st class mechanic set it up. I'd have to flip a coin between a white & black GC. I do like the black with the white engraving. I'd set up for drop pockets. As for ball racks I'd make or have customs made.
 
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I would like to find a place here to play on one. I will be looking for a table as I just moved back North and I do have a billiard room size set up in the new home that I am buying and it will accommodate a nine foot table. I would possibly invest $12,500 if it included full set up and the desired cloth- don't forget sales tax will add around 7% to the price.

I don't want 4.5 pockets as my guests will mostly not be top players and I play 70% 14.1 anyhow- I wish they had 4.75 instead of jumping up to 5 inch on the pocket size - clearly going after the one pocket crowd at sizes 4 and 4.25 in addition to the 4.5 and 5 inch options.

I won't invest without a trial on this table somewhere- I walked into a Brunswick dealer here in CT. last month and they do not even carry the GCVI onsite- ridiculous in my opinion--- so I'll wait and see. If anyone has Nick Baron's contact info please PM me here as I want to be sure on my final decision relating to a table- I am not a Diamond fan- BTW- I was quoted $9500 on a new Diamond nine foot by a NE Diamond dealer.
 
I would like to find a place here to play on one. I will be looking for a table as I just moved back North and I do have a billiard room size set up in the new home that I am buying and it will accommodate a nine foot table. I would possibly invest $12,500 if it included full set up and the desired cloth- don't forget sales tax will add around 7% to the price.

I don't want 4.5 pockets as my guests will mostly not be top players and I play 70% 14.1 anyhow- I wish they had 4.75 instead of jumping up to 5 inch on the pocket size - clearly going after the one pocket crowd at sizes 4 and 4.25 in addition to the 4.5 and 5 inch options.

I won't invest without a trial on this table somewhere- I walked into a Brunswick dealer here in CT. last month and they do not even carry the GCVI onsite- ridiculous in my opinion--- so I'll wait and see. If anyone has Nick Baron's contact info please PM me here as I want to be sure on my final decision relating to a table- I am not a Diamond fan- BTW- I was quoted $9500 on a new Diamond nine foot by a NE Diamond dealer.
It's not out anywhere yet. The only chance a normal consumer has to play on it is at a trade show/expo/etc.
 
I would like to find a place here to play on one. I will be looking for a table as I just moved back North and I do have a billiard room size set up in the new home that I am buying and it will accommodate a nine foot table. I would possibly invest $12,500 if it included full set up and the desired cloth- don't forget sales tax will add around 7% to the price.

I don't want 4.5 pockets as my guests will mostly not be top players and I play 70% 14.1 anyhow- I wish they had 4.75 instead of jumping up to 5 inch on the pocket size - clearly going after the one pocket crowd at sizes 4 and 4.25 in addition to the 4.5 and 5 inch options.

I won't invest without a trial on this table somewhere- I walked into a Brunswick dealer here in CT. last month and they do not even carry the GCVI onsite- ridiculous in my opinion--- so I'll wait and see. If anyone has Nick Baron's contact info please PM me here as I want to be sure on my final decision relating to a table- I am not a Diamond fan- BTW- I was quoted $9500 on a new Diamond nine foot by a NE Diamond dealer.
List on a 9ft GC6 is 13k(add 1k for Tournament) and i seriously doubt the 7 will be any cheaper. I'm guessing MSRP on a 9ft will be in the 14-15k range. Out the door price will probably be knocked down some but i doubt they'll take less than 12k cash. At these prices i just don't see them moving very many. A new D'mond will be up to 4k less depending on the model.
 
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I'd like to know if you can buy a Rasson table in the U.S. Sure liked the ones I saw in the Phillippines. Over here (the PI) a very good pool table can be had for $2,500-3,000. No reason to buy a "name" brand that plays no better for a lot more.

I could buy any table I wanted and did have some very cool ones at different times in my life. Swapped out an Anniversary (cost me 5K) for a slightly used (one tournament) Diamond Pro-Am (6K) with one piece slate and then upgraded the rails to the blue labels. Great table but so was the Anniversary. Owned a Brunswick Gibson for awhile and sold it for a Gold Crown V, which I really liked.

To put it all in perspective though my two favorite home tables were a well kept Gold Crown I and a Brunswick Sport King. I bought the GC for $1,500 and had it set up expertly by Steve Leistokow. It played great! But my all time favorite was the Sport King, the low end commercial table after the Gold Crown. I bought it for $400 (poolroom closing) and Ernesto set it up for me with 4.25" corners. That box played great and there were many lively games on it with champion players. All of them loved that table. Should have kept that one. All were 9' tables! Never had a smaller table in my home.
 
I would like to find a place here to play on one. I will be looking for a table as I just moved back North and I do have a billiard room size set up in the new home that I am buying and it will accommodate a nine foot table. I would possibly invest $12,500 if it included full set up and the desired cloth- don't forget sales tax will add around 7% to the price.

I don't want 4.5 pockets as my guests will mostly not be top players and I play 70% 14.1 anyhow- I wish they had 4.75 instead of jumping up to 5 inch on the pocket size - clearly going after the one pocket crowd at sizes 4 and 4.25 in addition to the 4.5 and 5 inch options.

I won't invest without a trial on this table somewhere- I walked into a Brunswick dealer here in CT. last month and they do not even carry the GCVI onsite- ridiculous in my opinion--- so I'll wait and see. If anyone has Nick Baron's contact info please PM me here as I want to be sure on my final decision relating to a table- I am not a Diamond fan- BTW- I was quoted $9500 on a new Diamond nine foot by a NE Diamond dealer.
That’s crazy that they didn’t have a single new gold crown for you to play on considering that’s the top of the line for them. I still look at the price just like I look at the price at predator tables and laugh. Like them or not diamonds by the majority our now considered the gold standard to play on and they are cheaper then either of the other 2 . That makes no sense to me lol who in their right mind when shopping for tables looks at the predator tables and thinks yeah.. I’ll pay $500 more for that diamond wanna be lol
 
I'd like to know if you can buy a Rasson table in the U.S. Sure liked the ones I saw in the Phillippines. Over here (the PI) a very good pool table can be had for $2,500-3,000. No reason to buy a "name" brand that plays no better for a lot more.

I could buy any table I wanted and did have some very cool ones at different times in my life. Swapped out an Anniversary (cost me 5K) for a slightly used (one tournament) Diamond Pro-Am (6K) with one piece slate and then upgraded the rails to the blue labels. Great table but so was the Anniversary. Owned a Brunswick Gibson for awhile and sold it for a Gold Crown V, which I really liked.

To put it all in perspective though my two favorite home tables were a well kept Gold Crown I and a Brunswick Sport King. I bought the GC for $1,500 and had it set up expertly by Steve Leistokow. It played great! But my all time favorite was the Sport King, the low end commercial table after the Gold Crown. I bought it for $400 (poolroom closing) and Ernesto set it up for me with 4.25" corners. That box played great and there were many lively games on it with champion players. All of them loved that table. Should have kept that one. All were 9' tables! Never had a smaller table in my home.
You can at the super billiards expo the last couple years. Rasson was set up there for you to hit on them. I don’t really like the look of them . Especially that grey one they use on tv but to each their own
 
I'd like to know if you can buy a Rasson table in the U.S. Sure liked the ones I saw in the Phillippines. Over here (the PI) a very good pool table can be had for $2,500-3,000. No reason to buy a "name" brand that plays no better for a lot more.

I could buy any table I wanted and did have some very cool ones at different times in my life. Swapped out an Anniversary (cost me 5K) for a slightly used (one tournament) Diamond Pro-Am (6K) with one piece slate and then upgraded the rails to the blue labels. Great table but so was the Anniversary. Owned a Brunswick Gibson for awhile and sold it for a Gold Crown V, which I really liked.

To put it all in perspective though my two favorite home tables were a well kept Gold Crown I and a Brunswick Sport King. I bought the GC for $1,500 and had it set up expertly by Steve Leistokow. It played great! But my all time favorite was the Sport King, the low end commercial table after the Gold Crown. I bought it for $400 (poolroom closing) and Ernesto set it up for me with 4.25" corners. That box played great and there were many lively games on it with champion players. All of them loved that table. Should have kept that one. All were 9' tables! Never had a smaller table in my home.
I was offered a Rasson table already- Jason Shaw has Rassons in his room in CT. owned jointly with his Korean father in law, Joe. I have known Joe for a long time - I have an opportunity to possibly buy Jason's home table at his house here in CT- but I think that it is 4 1/4 pockets from what Joe tells me, and I don't want to start trying to alter it - no one around here is that skilled. The billiard room has 4 1/2 inch Rasson tables- they are super fast as well.
My older son has the Anniversary in his home here in Ct. - what a really nice table! - set up very well by the famous Blatt Billiards of NYC- the stock Anniversary pockets are just about 5 inches with very shallow slate depth- everything close to the pocket at a slow speed will drop- it is like night and day from playing on the Rasson in terms of speed and difficulty .
 
That’s crazy that they didn’t have a single new gold crown for you to play on considering that’s the top of the line for them. I still look at the price just like I look at the price at predator tables and laugh. Like them or not diamonds by the majority our now considered the gold standard to play on and they are cheaper then either of the other 2 . That makes no sense to me lol who in their right mind when shopping for tables looks at the predator tables and thinks yeah.. I’ll pay $500 more for that diamond wanna be lol
I know- $9500 for a Diamond is a far cry from $12,500+ for a New Brunswick made in China- I have a lot to think about over the next year as I make a final decision- but I learned from my very first Olhausen table purchase - 35 years ago ( mistake!) -- not to rush these things.
 
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I know- $9500 for a Diamond is a far cry from $12,500+ for a New Brunswick made in China- I have a lot to think about over the next year as I make a final decision- but I learned from my very first Olhausen table purchase - 35 years ago ( mistake!) -- not to rush these things.
Yeah.. olhausen make a quality table furniture wise but I never was a fan of the way they play. The new gold crowns look nice though. I definitely need to play on it before I make a purchase like that.
 
That’s crazy that they didn’t have a single new gold crown for you to play on considering that’s the top of the line for them. I still look at the price just like I look at the price at predator tables and laugh. Like them or not diamonds by the majority our now considered the gold standard to play on and they are cheaper then either of the other 2 . That makes no sense to me lol who in their right mind when shopping for tables looks at the predator tables and thinks yeah.. I’ll pay $500 more for that diamond wanna be lol
Me. Because the rails on the Predator play better than the rails on the Diamond. $500 mean zero when we are talking about a 10k purchase.
 
You can at the super billiards expo the last couple years. Rasson was set up there for you to hit on them. I don’t really like the look of them . Especially that grey one they use on tv but to each their own
They play good though. That's what matters most to me. I always did like a tough table though. Separates the men from the boys. The Anniversary was by far the most beautiful table imo. It was also the heaviest with over one inch slate and a super heavy frame. Played great for a seventy year old table!
 
WPBA is here by me in a couple days, and it will be interesting to see if they have Diamond or Olhausen tables. Haven't heard anything about their new tables since their roll out at the Womens event in Green Bay.
Edit, if their frame construction is what is shown in their pictures on their web site, it would be a big no for me as it is the same basic framework as your traditional home table that over time sags in the middle.
Before buying my Diamond professional about 5 yrs ago I had a beautiful Brunswick home table. Like all of them, over time it sagged in the middle. When it came time to recover, as I had a full woodshop, I decided to try and beef up the framework first. Took a bit of figuring out due to the cross beams, but I was able to double the outer frame thickness in the end. It actually was a simple process once you figured it out. That table was really solid after that.
 
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The Brunswick guy (Nick Baron, President of the Brunswick Billiards Group) sounds really candid and like knows what' he's talking about. That's a very good sign.
Nick Baron video, he's got cue ball in hand and talking about how Quiet the newly redesigned centered ball return system is.
And you can hit balls when the kids are asleep..... yeah right but home table sales are Extremely Important.
Since this video Has Audio.
Why didn't we hear him roll a single ball into a pocket?
He had cb in hand for ever :).
I Felt like I was getting Slow Played. LOL
Nice looking man, I just thought by his delivery, he was Brunswicks national sales rep.
Now that I said that, ''he is''. He doesn't come across like Bakula.
He never mentioned, looking at any other mfg tables and their designs to get additional ideas, all car mfgs do.
I like the slate options/pocket options/BUT all Brunswick's should have thee original ball boxes.
They are higher up than these cheap lookin' ''brackets''.
To me, the ball box.... was what separated this table from all others.
It's like the difference between a Mercedes Benz and a Cadillac.
Benz is better always will be.
For decades the foot rail/box/counters/HD chrome rack holder functioned well together.
BALL BOX MISCUE....Brunswick..... you had it right the first time. Old design better.
BALL BOX IS HIGHER UP (than brackets) less bending over, you can see the score. :)
This below comment that he made, was why I thought he was just a ''sales'' person.
''With your purchase of Under table ball brackets, you can see the score.'' LOL
 
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Nick Baron video, he's got cue ball in hand and talking about how Quiet the newly redesigned centered ball return system is.
And you can hit balls when the kids are asleep..... yeah right but home table sales are Extremely Important.
Since this video Has Audio.
Why didn't he roll a single ball into the pocket?
He had cb in hand for ever :).
I Felt like I was getting Slow Played. LOL
Nice looking man, I just thought by his delivery, he was Brunswicks national sales rep.
Now that I said that, ''he is''.
He never mentioned, looking at any other mfg tables and their designs to get additional ideas, all car mfgs do.
Brunswick had players input as well as that from table wizard Mark Gregory. They looked at a lot of other tables on the market. Where do you think they got the ideas for a metal frame, alum. rails and Artemis rubber? Those are all used on various competitor's tables. BTW, in the video they said it was too loud in the trade hall to hear it roll. I've been to enough trade shows to believe that. You're making an issue out of nothing.
 
They play good though. That's what matters most to me. I always did like a tough table though. Separates the men from the boys. The Anniversary was by far the most beautiful table imo. It was also the heaviest with over one inch slate and a super heavy frame. Played great for a seventy year old table!
Dude I love those old tables.. they just don’t make them like that anymore.
 
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