Two Greatest Players

Island Drive

Island Drive

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This is about how some players deal with their moments in match play.
I was there in 80's/Denver Open, when the other Greatest won his match ''uncorking'' as his opponent pulled the trigger.
Recently I watched this match live.

Deja Vu.... the Move.
Seeing Shaw pull this move.... took me back to when I was on Colfax watching Chuey Rivera in real time lose with the move.
The above video at the 4+ minute mark, Ref should of kept non player seated.
Did the ref go see a replay of the shot?
That miscue shot was a legal miscue ''all day looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooongah"
But Mr Big got the ref to change the game.
If anyone disagrees, tell me why?
 
Flashback, Mizerak did the same to me by not showing up to our match in Vegas on time, He was in with the Promoters.
I waited 15 minutes told TD, ah, oh..... we rescheduled your match.
That was that money move.
This Miz money move tho, was not anything like thee above, but close.
 
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Island Drive said:
This is about how some players deal with their moments in match play.
I was there in 80's/Denver Open, when the other Greatest won his match ''uncorking'' as his opponent pulled the trigger.
Recently I watched this match live.

Deja Vu.... the Move.
Seeing Shaw pull this move.... took me back to when I was on Colfax watching Chuey Rivera in real time lose with the move.
The above video at the 4+ minute mark, Ref should of kept non player seated.
Did the ref go see a replay of the shot?
That miscue shot was a legal miscue ''all day looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooongah"
But Mr Big got the ref to change the game.
If anyone disagrees, tell me why?
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Total BS move.

I never did like Shaw or his attitude.
 
This vid/situation has been hashed over quite a bit already but you are calling Shaw one of the two "greatest"?
 
All his Mosconi cup stuff is just that, doesn't bother me.
This recent match play move is completely different.
 
jeephawk said:
What?

"Two Greatest Players" - that's the subject - how is Shaw one of the two greatest players seemed a reasonable question.

Still is.

Why is he?
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Never seen a higher gear, only his equal in all my years.
He's as aggressive as a player can get when in punch with incredible swing power, 18' of draw/Shaw.
To me now, he's living off the fat, got family bills etc. and he needs to lose 25 lbs to get it back. He's wasting his talent.
 
Island Drive said:
Did the ref go see a replay of the shot?
That miscue shot was a legal miscue ''all day
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That was my first thought. On further review, perhaps the replay showed that the second contact was with the ferrule rather than the leather. A misscue with double tip contact would not be a foul but contact with the ferrule would make it a foul. Just my best guess. 🤷‍♂️ 😉
 
Obviously not a foul. Both Jayson and the ref need to brush up on the rules. Sad to see a player bullying a referee to change a call that was correct in the first place and succeeding. Meanwhile, at the Hanoi Open, when Capito committed a super-obvious foul late in the quarterfinal of the Hanoi Open, Lechner remained seated while he expressed disagreement. In one of the more bizarre refereeing incidents I have ever witnessed, the non-call of a super-obvious foul was upheld AFTER a replay that made the foul indisputable.

At the Philippines Open in Manilla, a correct call was overturned in favor of a bad one. Incredibly, in Hanoi, a pathetic call was upheld, even after replay exposed just how bad the call was. Referees routinely tolerated doctoring of the cueball in the World 9ball.

It was a bad year all around for the referees at the Matchroom majors. To their credit, however, they were outstanding at the just-completed Mosconi Cup, and I hope it is a sign of good things to come in 2026.
 
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gregcantrall said:
That was my first thought. On further review, perhaps the replay showed that the second contact was with the ferrule rather than the leather. A misscue with double tip contact would not be a foul but contact with the ferrule would make it a foul. Just my best guess. 🤷‍♂️ 😉
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It's the ferrule contact that makes the click.
 
sjm said:
Obviously not a foul. Both Jayson and the ref need to brush up on the rules. Sad to see a player bullying a referee to change a call that was correct in the first place and succeeding. Meanwhile, at the Hanoi Open, when Capito committed a super-obvious foul late in the quarterfinal of the Hanoi Open, Lechner remained seated while he expressed disagreement. In one of the more bizarre refereeing incidents I have ever witnessed, the non-call of a super-obvious foul was upheld AFTER a replay that made the foul indisputable.

At the Philippines Open in Manilla, a correct call was overturned in favor of a bad one. Incredibly, in Hanoi, a pathetic call was upheld, even after replay exposed just how bad the call was. Referees routinely tolerated doctoring of the cueball in the World 9ball.

It was a bad year all around for the referees at the Matchroom majors. To their credit, however, they were outstanding at the just-completed Mosconi Cup, and I hope it is a sign of good things to come in 2026.
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Yes.... but why did the referee choose to succumb to the seated $haw/caw.
Is the ref Jasons friend?
 
Did you guys miss the last 5 years of pro pool officials? They’ve been calling miscues fouls. Shaw spoke up because they were doing that all season. It wasn’t him being an ass.
 
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