Fred “Scooter” Goodman is a thief. Here’s how he stole from me:

Here’s Bishops quote:

“In all my years I’ve rarely had a friend or family member come back to “tap the well”. Most people are appreciative of the help and pay it back with good will down the road.”

Notice Bishop said “most people”…that means “some people” horsef@ck him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
Some people like 'Horses'! ;)
 
A manager at a pool room I hung out in while stationed in DC wanted to buy a Schon I had. If I described this man physically, I'm sure many people on here from NOVA would immediately know who I was referring to. This was...26 years ago.

He asked to pay for it on time payments. I had other cues, and really wasn't worried about it. He was super nice, and I had no reason not to trust him. He never even suggested making a single payment after he had it. And I waited, waited, and waited... and because I loved hanging out there, I never said anything. I also kind of felt sorry for him to be honest.

I haven't thought about that in a long time, until I read this.

i bet no one on here knows where nova is or what it is.
is it suppose to be a known acronym?

and why on earth would you sell a cue on payments and then never ask for any when you see the person regularly.
he was basically stealing it from you.
 
i bet no one on here knows where nova is or what it is.
is it suppose to be a known acronym?

and why on earth would you sell a cue on payments and then never ask for any when you see the person regularly.
he was basically stealing it from you.
NOVA = Northern Virginia

Just like NOLA = New Orleans Louisiana

I take Cash, Checks, Goods and Venmo 😁
 
This thread reminds me of my friends (acquaintances?) who used to race Showroom Stock or IT class in SCCA.

So much bad blood from camshafts or wheels/tires “borrowed”.

(No, I was never such a victim. I autocrossed but didn’t do wheel-to-wheel. Saw too many guys thrash on their cars for two or three weeks only to get crashed out Turn 2 lap 1 then do it all over again the next two or three weeks. I like my $ inside my wallet and my bones inside my skin.)

@ShootingArts Hu, I bet you can relate to the parts “lending” aka “stealing” portion of this post.
 
This thread reminds me of my friends (acquaintances?) who used to race Showroom Stock or IT class in SCCA.

So much bad blood from camshafts or wheels/tires “borrowed”.

(No, I was never such a victim. I autocrossed but didn’t do wheel-to-wheel. Saw too many guys thrash on their cars for two or three weeks only to get crashed out Turn 2 lap 1 then do it all over again the next two or three weeks. I like my $ inside my wallet and my bones inside my skin.)

@ShootingArts Hu, I bet you can relate to the parts “lending” aka “stealing” portion of this post.

A quick sad story: I built a new car. A '67 Camaro, big block chevy that was basically mid engine after stretching the rules to the limit! Several years in the build and about ten thousand, a lot of money then and over twice what the car cost new. First night out I had a carburetor acting up and still timed in second row. I pulled up against the wall and some clown in the back of the pack tried to go between me and the wall. Ruined two Experimental Firestones from Gene Snow the local dealer had given me. He wasn't exactly sponsoring me but he was getting around to it.

The front tire and wheel tore off and the A plate dug into the track. I flipped over and was upside down in the car with the driver's door facing the oncoming traffic! Juiced gasoline pouring past me and running under the engine. The one thing I was scared of racing was fire! The pack came past me still running wide open! I was worried about landing on my head and neck when I released my harness but I was more scared of fire which might explode at any moment. After the pack went by I popped my harness and got out. I couldn't say how I landed.

I loaned a fellow racer a wide five bolt pattern wheel. When my car was ready and I needed it I went to get it. He had loaned it to someone else! I traced it through almost ten people. Finally I gave up. Found one used somebody would sell me. I went to buy it and there was my wheel with some minor damage I knew well. I grabbed the wheel and told them it would be a blue day in hell when they sold it to me, it was mine! I left without another word but with the wheel!

I miss short tracking, everything about it. Funny thing, the two most fun things I did with my clothes on was driving 600+ horsepower late models & sprint cars and riding a working cutting horse. Foundation bred, he could turn on a dime and give you nine cents change. Miss my buddy.

Hu
 
A manager at a pool room I hung out in while stationed in DC wanted to buy a Schon I had. If I described this man physically, I'm sure many people on here from NOVA would immediately know who I was referring to. This was...26 years ago.

He asked to pay for it on time payments. I had other cues, and really wasn't worried about it. He was super nice, and I had no reason not to trust him. He never even suggested making a single payment after he had it. And I waited, waited, and waited... and because I loved hanging out there, I never said anything. I also kind of felt sorry for him to be honest.

I haven't thought about that in a long time, until I read this.
I would never feel sorry for someone who wanted to buy a schon and didn't start paying immediately. I would rather buy him a cheeseburger if I felt sorry for him.
 
i bet no one on here knows where nova is or what it is.
is it suppose to be a known acronym?

and why on earth would you sell a cue on payments and then never ask for any when you see the person regularly.
he was basically stealing it from you.
Where were you when I needed you, 26 years ago?
 
I don’t want to sound like I’m piling on too much. I really do mean this to be constructive. But to me the thing to ponder is giving out the anniversary present. This was the bigger part of the mistake and is on you- you had an extra reason to say no and you didn’t. Examine that...
The shaft symbolically represented his wife? So, deep down he really wanted to get rid of his wife? Therefore, instead of complaining about his missing shaft, he should get a divorce?
 
A quick sad story: I built a new car. A '67 Camaro, big block chevy that was basically mid engine after stretching the rules to the limit! Several years in the build and about ten thousand, a lot of money then and over twice what the car cost new. First night out I had a carburetor acting up and still timed in second row. I pulled up against the wall and some clown in the back of the pack tried to go between me and the wall. Ruined two Experimental Firestones from Gene Snow the local dealer had given me. He wasn't exactly sponsoring me but he was getting around to it.

The front tire and wheel tore off and the A plate dug into the track. I flipped over and was upside down in the car with the driver's door facing the oncoming traffic! Juiced gasoline pouring past me and running under the engine. The one thing I was scared of racing was fire! The pack came past me still running wide open! I was worried about landing on my head and neck when I released my harness but I was more scared of fire which might explode at any moment. After the pack went by I popped my harness and got out. I couldn't say how I landed.

I loaned a fellow racer a wide five bolt pattern wheel. When my car was ready and I needed it I went to get it. He had loaned it to someone else! I traced it through almost ten people. Finally I gave up. Found one used somebody would sell me. I went to buy it and there was my wheel with some minor damage I knew well. I grabbed the wheel and told them it would be a blue day in hell when they sold it to me, it was mine! I left without another word but with the wheel!

I miss short tracking, everything about it. Funny thing, the two most fun things I did with my clothes on was driving 600+ horsepower late models & sprint cars and riding a working cutting horse. Foundation bred, he could turn on a dime and give you nine cents change. Miss my buddy.

Hu
hu,

how do you get carburetor icing in a race car? you only get it if you are pulling back your power drastically in a carb and its humid..

what dont i know?
 
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WARNING: Before you start this post, I warn you it is long and self-indulgent and sentimental. Now that I have finished it, it's almost like O'Henry. So you are cautioned. Just skip over it to the next post if you think it might cause your diabetes to flare up.

You guys really know some awful people. For myself, if I give money to someone, I never expect to see it back. Small nicks aren't going to hurt anything but my feelings.

But I feel as if this long exchange about dishonesty needs an exorcism. So here it is.

For something like twenty years I had a friend from the poolroom whom I will assign the name "Bill." Bill was a seriously, seriously depressed person. Hiding in life far away from a very successful father. Every now and then Bill would ask if he could borrow forty or fifty dollars. I gave him the money every time. It might take a month or two, but I always got the money back. This went on for at least two decades.

Three anecdotes:

1. This was all before there were homeless people everywhere. You would never have taken Bill for homeless, but I think he was "no permanent address" or "if living in car, give license plate number" for many intervals in those years. One heard stories, some of which were delightful revelations of how Bill dealt with his lot. Finally a regular in the poolroom, in my presence, said to Bill, "For God's sake, tell us how you do it. It would make a great book, an instruction manual. We could call it 'How to Live off the Grid Right in front of Everyone.'" Bill declined.

2. One day my phone rang. It was a gentleman asking for Bill. (When Bill really needed a phone number to give out, say applying for jobs, he would give my home number and I would pass a message to him.) I asked the gentleman why he was calling. He said he was Bill's brother. I was stunned. I explained that on rare occasions Bill gave out my phone number and I passed messages on to him. The voice on the phone eventually asked me who I was. I told him, and then he asked, "May I ask what you do?" I told him my profession. He said, "Does my brother know people like you?" I assured him that Bill knew not only me but people of all sorts, and that Bill was rather well liked. Then I said, "Tell me, I understand Bill is very estranged from his father. Is that true?" Bill's brother answered, "I'm Bill's younger brother. I remember the fights. When I have nightmares, they are always about Bill and my father fighting."

3. On another occasion my phone rang in the middle of the night. It was Bill. He said that I probably knew that he had mental problems. I replied that I did. He said he was having a bad moment and wanted me to drive him to the emergency room because he felt he might kill himself. I asked him where he was and drove to a gas station to get him. Bill says to me he wants to smoke a cigarette before we go to the hospital. So we sit on a wall and each smoke a cigarette. Up pulls a familiar car. It belongs to a non-pool room friend of mine named Chris, whose sister lives in the apartment next to the wall Bill and I are sitting on. Chris does not like what he sees. It's three o'clock in the morning. I am sitting on a wall behind a gas station with a person he doesn't know. I am smoking, which he knows I do only very rarely. Chris is suspicious and starting to border on protective. It took a lot of persuasion to have Chris let me drive off with Bill in my car.


After many years Bill ran me down at my customary breakfast spot. He declared that he owed me forty dollars. I asked him if he was sure, because I didn't remember it. He said, absolutely and paid me the forty. We looked at the newspaper together and talked. Three weeks later Bill killed himself.

People in the poolroom all asked me how much Bill owed me when he died. I could truthfully tell them that Bill had always eventually paid me back.

I can't imagine how dull life would have been without the old pool room types. Bring back the pre-narcotics demi-monde!
 
I'm shocked and apalled that nobody on here has asked to hold a hundo yet, as is tradition on Azb when someone tells a story about getting hustled or got the bite put on them.

That sucks about your cue, but if I remember rightly this Scnooter guy was the person who would bet giant bags of quarters he allegedly stole from car washes a few years ago. I mean...not exactly mr. Trustworthy, that guy.
 
tobermory

many or most of my best memories from the pool and gambling world are from, down and out, or unstable, or criminals.

they had stories, a real life, and most were good to be around, if you weren't the type to judge people by their money.

and almost all of them except for small time lowlifes, were more honorable than any of the business people i knew.
 
Here’s Bishops quote:

“In all my years I’ve rarely had a friend or family member come back to “tap the well”. Most people are appreciative of the help and pay it back with good will down the road.”

Notice Bishop said “most people”…that means “some people” horsef@ck him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
You would know about horse boning better than anyone.
 
hu,

how do you get carburetor icing in a race car? you only get it if you are pulling back your power drastically in a carb and its humid..

what dont i know?
Did you read “carburetor acting up” as icing up? I didn’t see a reference to icing….
 
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