Quitting winner...eh, when can I quit

there is no set rule for quitting. but, there a thing called courtesy. if you have to go home to eat dinner or work or what ever. i believe you should inform your opposition prior to the start of the game and everything will be on the up side. if you win three and it is time to go then everything has already been laid out on the table prior.

Quit whenever you want.

Some will argue a violation of gambling ethics.
Some will argue a violation of gambling courtesy.

That's just a load of crap because they can't handle losing or not playing good enough to get you stuck so that the shoe is on the other foot.
Is it going to make some people mad? Absolutely.
But then you have to examine if you are here on this earth to make other people happy, or yourself.
There are no rules.

There is no right or wrong regarding gambling and money.
You decide to do whatever you want.

If they can't handle that and feel that you have wronged them, that's their problem now isn't it.

I prefer to set some ground rules before starting. I have seen it done many times. Race to 9 for a hundred, no rematch....race to 9 for a hundred, one rematch...etc. When the clock strikes 8 o'clock last game. I personally like to set the stage before playing.....but that is just my personal preference, wether it be number of matches, games, or just simply a time I intend to quit.

I normally try and give people a time of when I need to leave before we start playing. If I don't have a time, then I try and give them at least a 30 minute rule (playing 9 Ball) and 2 game rule playing one pocket. Also, if I'm up with a few games to go, I will allow them to up the bet to where they have a chance to break even on the last 2 games.

nksmfamjp said:

This concept is blowing me away. Why is it bad to quit winner at a natural break point?

Were playing $10 per rack...I win a 3 and want to go home and eat, etc...can I walk out?

We play race to 9 for $100, can I leave without a return race?

We play for $20, I win three double or mornings, can I leave with $160?

Why do I have to play until you, your family and the ATM are all broke? I'll probably have divorce papers waiting on me at home! Which will cost me more than I won!

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i perfer to bet all i have on one set,that way atleased i can win what i was willing to lose,but i would tell my oponit iam only playing one set

Well obviously you should tell them, "I'll play you till so and so O'clock". Once you set a predetermined time limit there can't be any arguments for quitting winner.

This of course only goes for non-predetermined games or sets and not for an ahead race. In that case it's up to you to honor the arrangement.

Gambling

Thats the problem with gambling. People who are financially stable don't need anybodys money. I know a lot of gamblers who gamble and really shouldn't cause they can't even pay their bills. These guys have $2000 on Monday but they are broke on Friday. Gambled it away. Not to say theres not some very savy gamblers out there but on the whole many gamblers are not the most astute handlers of fuduciary affairs. If I lose I say good game, heres your money and maybe we will play again, see you around. If they lose, I'm supposed to hang around all night so they can get even or better yet take my money. They need the money really bad so they can gamble some more. I never needed their money in the first place. Not to mention once you gamble with them they want to gamble every time they see you. I love to watch big money affairs, all the drama and sweating, seeing really great pool, its awesome. Hell the best gambling you can do is side betting. But thats a different leverl isn't it. Most problems come from people playing for less than $20-100. Gambling for me is going to the racetrack, they give odds and you can win $100 on a $2 bet. Throwing dice is great fun. Ask these so called gamblers to go to Vegas with you and guess what? They don't have the air fare and motel money much less more money to gamble with. I worked hard for my money all my life while these guys were piddling their lives away. And they think their in some sort of special fraternity of people who gamble. I have played all my life and have never been in the red. All the beer games, $5 10 and 20 games and yes even $100 games. I'm not even considered a gambler. Most of those so called gamblers can't say they are ahead and in the black. Yep they are in a special fraternity allright, don't think I want to run with them.

In a casino can you quit anytime you want to or do you have to give them a chance to get even.
That is a joke so you know.
There is no rule.
Here lately I have been playing people that if they loose they quite after a couple of games and won't play sets.
If I am losing I will normally get 5 games down before quiting and I don't quit winner, but if I had something to do or got a call I would leave and if anyone said anything I would tell them don't play again then.
I was playing someone that I play often and he was a gaime winner in one hole, we were both tired and wanted to quit. He gave me the last game money back and I said keep it you don't owe it to me and you won I don't care when my opponent quits.
Bye

Knifemaker

gunzby said:

Well obviously you should tell them, "I'll play you till so and so O'clock". Once you set a predetermined time limit there can't be any arguments for quitting winner.

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Thats not always true. There are plenty of bad losers out there, that no matter what time restraints you set on playing before the match begins, they will still ***** and gripe if they are losing and you say that you are leaving.
Its poor sportsmanship, plain and simple. Guys who cant handle getting beat will come up with all kinds of excuses and bullshit to try and get you to keep playing so they have a shot at getting even. The will quote unwritten gambling rules, and gamblers codes. A good response for these guys is to look them square in the eye and say "Sorry, I wouldnt know anything about that. What I do isnt gambling......"
Chuck

I think there are many different ways to handle it, all depending on what each situation is.

Of course it's great to let your opponent know at the beginning I have time for X number of sets, or I have to leave by midnight, etc.

I think there is actually a good time to quit winners though.

A few years ago I played a guy that was a better player than me (and a complete jerk IMO). He was known for laying down early to try and jack the bet up and I knew about it. I didn't ask for weight but he offered it, so of course I took it. I won a couple cheap sets and right when he wanted to jack the bet I told him I had to run. He was really pissed off, I think mainly because he set the trap and didn't catch his rabbit.

These are some good advices. I normally don't gamble, but I'd do it once in awhile to help me focus more on my game, but ultimately my goal isn't trying to make money, but to play better pool. But as most others said, it is courteous to set some ground rules before playing, or let them know how long you want to play for. But I would definitely be aware of who you are playing with. Some people don't handle losnig very well and even with ground rules set, they will give you a hard time even after the game. If that's the case I would in all means avoid playing with them. But if you leave in like 3 racks, which might take tops 15 minutes, I wuold say it is a little rude, but communicate and let your opponent know what your expectations are, so win or lose, both opponents won't feel cheated.

Also make sure you know what rules you are playing with. I had some people in Taiwan who find it courteous to not play a safety on a ball in hand and pick up the 9 ball on any unintended combinations. But that is when we are just playing with a friendly pot.

RiverCity said:

Thats not always true. There are plenty of bad losers out there, that no matter what time restraints you set on playing before the match begins, they will still ***** and gripe if they are losing and you say that you are leaving.
Its poor sportsmanship, plain and simple. Guys who cant handle getting beat will come up with all kinds of excuses and bullshit to try and get you to keep playing so they have a shot at getting even. The will quote unwritten gambling rules, and gamblers codes. A good response for these guys is to look them square in the eye and say "Sorry, I wouldnt know anything about that. What I do isnt gambling......"
Chuck

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Oh I know that, but this way they look like the bad guy in front of everyone there. You give em a time period to win money and if they come up loser that is their fault and not yours as you posted the terms before the money was posted on the light.

Maybe you should just play races. With no rematch unless you both agree. I think that is much better than playing rack by rack.

Quitting winner

After 40 years of gambling, the best you can do IMO is to post the money every game and set a predetermined time to quit. If you play a race, agree to whether there will be a rematch or not. Then if the person you are playing changes anything you know whether its worth it to play them again. These few things cut down a lot of the nonsense. I have seen lots of people bet money they didn't have before.
The sick part is they usually win so their opponent doesn't know he had no chance to win anything but air. I have also seen them lose, tell the guy a story and brush it off and do it again later in the same day.
Some room owners would bar them but others find it acceptable?
One of the most fitting endings to an air barreler I ever saw was when a guy about 50 years old played an 80 year old man here in town. The younger man lost and said I'm not paying! The older man jacked him and knocked him out. When he woke up he said he had no money to pay so the old man made him call his daughter and bring the money or he was going to whack him again. TRUE STORY!

Let the cat out

nksmfamjp said:

This concept is blowing me away. Why is it bad to quit winner at a natural break point?

Were playing $10 per rack...I win a 3 and want to go home and eat, etc...can I walk out?

We play race to 9 for $100, can I leave without a return race?

We play for $20, I win three double or mornings, can I leave with $160?

Why do I have to play until you, your family and the ATM are all broke? I'll probably have divorce papers waiting on me at home! Which will cost me more than I won!

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This isn't really meant to be funny, but, just play wide open for a couple of racks, if you play good enough they'll quit you! Seriously! That's also the reason you want to play sessions, instead of by the game. That way too, somebody is going to get some money out of it!

If your unable coerce your opponent with SPEED, just do what you think is best. If you don't really care for them, go ahead and leave. That way your guaranteed a rematch any time you see then in the future. It's a real good way to keep a customer on the line. If it's all about playing with friends, take Bob's advice and just keep a running total going. One thing to consider here, is how well you trust things to memory. If you need to keep a written record, make sure that you both stay current and in agreement on it's total. I had a friend once that turned the unwritten total in his favor and was actually arguing with me about who owed who. Now that will really bring the best out in you. I consented to owing him, raised the bet and beat the guy outta triple what he owed me to start with. Lost what I had considered to be a friend over it, but it taught him a lesson that he's never forgotten. Friend, or $$$$$, in the end a friend should be worth more!

The up front quitting time is O.K. if you really have to go. It has it's problems though. What do you do when you get in dead punch and don't really want to leave at the pre-designated time. If you stay a couple of times like that, the guy is going to think your a nitt when you leave all the other times. In the end though, it's probably best to keep on playing and not to have people consider you a nitt!!! Just one mans opinion though.

best advice yet

book collector said:

After 40 years of gambling, the best you can do IMO is to post the money every game and set a predetermined time to quit. If you play a race, agree to whether there will be a rematch or not. Then if the person you are playing changes anything you know whether its worth it to play them again. These few things cut down a lot of the nonsense. I have seen lots of people bet money they didn't have before.
The sick part is they usually win so their opponent doesn't know he had no chance to win anything but air. I have also seen them lose, tell the guy a story and brush it off and do it again later in the same day.
Some room owners would bar them but others find it acceptable?
One of the most fitting endings to an air barreler I ever saw was when a guy about 50 years old played an 80 year old man here in town. The younger man lost and said I'm not paying! The older man jacked him and knocked him out. When he woke up he said he had no money to pay so the old man made him call his daughter and bring the money or he was going to whack him again. TRUE STORY!

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I usally play 5 ahead sets in 9 ball and 3 ahead in 1 pocket..if both are
matched up good this can take some time..so we agree on the time
we quit..more times than any you will play the same people anyway..
so..if i am up 2 games when time is met..i get paid for them..and the
same for my opponent..playing Ahead by a certain number to me is
way better than a Race game..unless there is a short time frame..and
of course the cash is on the light and in sight..SA