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For all CTE users/supporters - 04-15-2017, 12:11 AM

Look it's real simple. If I have a party and I don't invite certain ppl, then some will say "well he didn't invite me must be a reason" and then you have those who want a reason "why tf didn't he invite me?!?! He must think he's better than me. Let me attack him personally and talk bad about his party so no one will come"

Some ppl have determined CTE is not for them. Then you have a select group who have banned together to discredit Stan's work bc they have a closed minded approach to the game. This group of ppl find solace in one another bc they share a common interest. We could make videos, present facts, and write books till our hands bleed but it won't change their mind. Even if by a miracle they allowed themselves to learn CTE they wouldn't admit it. Let's just understand that we like it, we don't need everyone else to like it, if they want to discredit it let them. CTE is the truth when it comes to understanding what is occurring visually in pocket billiards. Everyone uses it whether they know it or not.


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04-15-2017, 09:01 AM

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Look it's real simple. If I have a party and I don't invite certain ppl, then some will say "well he didn't invite me must be a reason" and then you have those who want a reason "why tf didn't he invite me?!?! He must think he's better than me. Let me attack him personally and talk bad about his party so no one will come"

Some ppl have determined CTE is not for them. Then you have a select group who have banned together to discredit Stan's work bc they have a closed minded approach to the game. This group of ppl find solace in one another bc they share a common interest. We could make videos, present facts, and write books till our hands bleed but it won't change their mind. Even if by a miracle they allowed themselves to learn CTE they wouldn't admit it. Let's just understand that we like it, we don't need everyone else to like it, if they want to discredit it let them. CTE is the truth when it comes to understanding what is occurring visually in pocket billiards. Everyone uses it whether they know it or not.
Post a pic of the innermost left edge of the CB. Prove that statement is a fact.

The fact is there is no such thing. Just show a pic.

You believe in 1/2 ball hits too, I bet........something else that's does not exist.
  
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04-15-2017, 09:03 AM

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Post a pic of the innermost left edge of the CB. Prove that statement is a fact.

The fact is there is no such thing. Just show a pic.

You believe in 1/2 ball hits too, I bet........something else that's does not exist.
Add constructively or do not participate.

One more demand of proof will close this door.


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04-15-2017, 09:59 AM

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Ok, so I've asked many times that if you don't have something constructive to add to the aiming conversations that involve CTE to stay out.

I've given bans that will be for 1 day as a final warning.

If I need to continue, the bans will be for substantially longer or permanent.


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Ya, sure. Look how much it helped John in that match, lol.

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Good point,,,,,,, if he used it at all, which I honestly couldn't see any sign he did, he didn't do so correctly, but then we all know you can't win one pocket with your mouth as the primary weapon.


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04-15-2017, 11:24 AM

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Look it's real simple. If I have a party and I don't invite certain ppl, then some will say "well he didn't invite me must be a reason" and then you have those who want a reason "why tf didn't he invite me?!?! He must think he's better than me. Let me attack him personally and talk bad about his party so no one will come"

Some ppl have determined CTE is not for them. Then you have a select group who have banned together to discredit Stan's work bc they have a closed minded approach to the game. This group of ppl find solace in one another bc they share a common interest. We could make videos, present facts, and write books till our hands bleed but it won't change their mind. Even if by a miracle they allowed themselves to learn CTE they wouldn't admit it. Let's just understand that we like it, we don't need everyone else to like it, if they want to discredit it let them. CTE is the truth when it comes to understanding what is occurring visually in pocket billiards. Everyone uses it whether they know it or not.


Things like this cause problems..,,your making assumptions with know proof. cte might be your thing, thats awesome I'm invited by such an ignorant remark.
Its not you but the remark. What I do to pocket balls has nothing to do with cte.

Cte has nothing to do with how real pool is learned and played.
Cte is supposed to be objective, this is fine only if one can let go at a certain point, the subconscious has to do its thing. From what i understand this doesn't happen.

It is a horrible ideal not to have feel, knowledge of the shot and subconscious state of playing. So tell me what does cte have to do with Earl.. Cj...an many other great players?


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04-15-2017, 11:54 AM

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Things like this cause problems..,,your making assumptions with know proof. cte might be your thing, thats awesome I'm invited by such an ignorant remark.
Its not you but the remark. What I do to pocket balls has nothing to do with cte.

Cte has nothing to do with how real pool is learned and played.
Cte is supposed to be objective, this is fine only if one can let go at a certain point, the subconscious has to do its thing. From what i understand this doesn't happen.

It is a horrible ideal not to have feel, knowledge of the shot and subconscious state of playing. So tell me what does cte have to do with Earl.. Cj...an many other great players?
CTE has everything to do with how pool is played. PRO player after pro player can be observed lining up at an offset to CCB. They turn into their shots. Guess what? They use 2 centers just as CTE teaches one to do, specifically and consciously NOT subconsciously.
Do not for one minute think that EARL moves directly into his shots.
This 2 center businesss is why most every pro can't explain what they do......Even the pros teach others to move straight in to a single cue ball center while they do otherwise. It's like Hal said years ago about the instructors he informally interviewed....they're all teaching it wrong. He was right! I figured it out. I will be clarifying all of the details.

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04-15-2017, 11:57 AM

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......CTE is the truth when it comes to understanding what is occurring visually in pocket billiards. Everyone uses it whether they know it or not.
If there is any concept of CTE that we all use, it's the concept of learning via rote. But this applies to all aspects of playing pool, to all aspects of anything​ we do in any activity that requires precise hand-eye coordination and muscle memory. I play by feel and instinct, which took years of old-school rote learning to develop. If CTE helps certain players shorten that process, great. For those who find themselves still struggling with the subjective aspects of the system, they will eventually find their way by applying their own version of how to make the system work. Regardless, of which category we fall into, the only thing we share is our ability to make our own way.
  
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If there is any concept of CTE that we all use, it's the concept of learning via rote. But this applies to all aspects of playing pool, to all aspects of anything​ we do in any activity that requires precise hand-eye coordination and muscle memory. I play by feel and instinct, which took years of old-school rote learning to develop. If CTE helps certain players shorten that process, great. For those who find themselves still struggling with the subjective aspects of the system, they will eventually find their way by applying their own version of how to make the system work. Regardless, of which category we fall into, the only thing we share is our ability to make our own way.
There is only one CTE.....It is very different and quite odd from anything that is conventional.
For a traditional EXACTLY set-up straight in shot, center to center is the only solution.

In CTE, every shot has a specific CCB solution that can be known just like a straight-in is for conventional alignments.

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Yes, Stan has refined the system into a set of distinct steps, I should have mentioned that. Looking forward to the book!
Concerning the visual phenomena, it is likely that Hal had knowledge of it and consciously experienced it but for the record I figured it out by myself with one clue from Hal. It would be incorrect to say that Hal discovered exactly what I shared with you because we don't that for certain. What we do know beyond any doubt is that I am the first one to ever explain the phenomena.
I have put a lot material into place other than just a refinement of what has been available.
I look forward to sending you my book. I think that you will be pleased. And I especially look forward to my free online series that will explain the phenomena that I am speaking of.

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CTE has everything to do with how pool is played.Only in your world. PRO player after pro player can be observed lining up at an offset to CCB. They turn into their shots.Thats normal and it doesnt have anything to with cte Guess what? Your wrong They use 2 centers just as CTE teaches one to do, specifically and consciously NOT subconsciously. Sounds good but your playing limited.
Do not for one minute think that EARL moves directly into his shots.
This 2 center businesss is why most every pro can't explain what they do..they can but wont or don't care to or they have and it seems to simple....Even the pros teach others to move straight in to a single cue ball center while they do otherwise. It's like Hal said years ago about the instructors he informally interviewed....they're all teaching it wrong. He was right! I figured it out. I will be clarifying all of the details.

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Ive discussed aiming with Earl, his exact words ...I spin a lot of balls, you wanna know how to make balls, play straight pool.

Sorry no cte Stan.
Spin alignments are based off of CTE and done quite easlily, much easier than conventional alignments.

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.....PRO player after pro player can be observed lining up at an offset to CCB. They turn into their shots.
Every pool player lines their body/stance offset from CCB because the cue stick is stroked from one side of our body or the other, not from the center of our body. And for a right-handed player it's normal to have your body turn into the shot as the left foot moves into the stance. It's also normal for the cue to swing or "sweep" down from the left shoulder to the shot line. For lefties it's just the opposite. These movements are observed among all pool players, myself included. Does that mean I'm ready using CTE? It's not correct to conclude that every sweeping or turning motion is evidence of CTE being used. If that were the criteria, every player in the history of the game would qualify.
  
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Every pool player lines their body/stance offset from CCB because the cue stick is stroked from one side of our body or the other, not from the center of our body. And for a right-handed player it's normal to have your body turn into the shot as the left foot moves into the stance. It's also normal for the cue to swing or "sweep" down from the left shoulder to the shot line. For lefties it's just the opposite. These movements are observed among all pool players, myself included. Does that mean I'm ready using CTE? It's not correct to conclude that every sweeping or turning motion is evidence of CTE being used. If that were the criteria, every player in the history of the game would qualify.
Pool is a visually driven game. Everything you described is essentially physical. Players OFFSET their vision away from CCB.
Technically, a player can use CTE and not know it - which is of very diminished value compared to the act of actually knowing the offsets.

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CTE has everything to do with how pool is played. PRO player after pro player can be observed lining up at an offset to CCB. They turn into their shots. Guess what? They use 2 centers just as CTE teaches one to do, specifically and consciously NOT subconsciously.
Do not for one minute think that EARL moves directly into his shots.
This 2 center businesss is why most every pro can't explain what they do......Even the pros teach others to move straight in to a single cue ball center while they do otherwise. It's like Hal said years ago about the instructors he informally interviewed....they're all teaching it wrong. He was right! I figured it out. I will be clarifying all of the details.

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