Jackpot Cues

rburgoyne said:

Ok I vaguely recall the Eason story and read enough to figure Zinzola went the same path as Eason and Eddie Wheat.

I'm not finding anything on Bama cues. This isn't the seller 'bamacues', right? Can someone point me in the right direction or time frame?

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Bob Jewett said:

There is the occasional lightning bolt sent by the gods from the modern Olympus -- Scottsdale.

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Bamacues said:

I don’t know how Bama Cues got into this, but we always posted on the site that the cues we sold as BC cues were an imported production cue, built by a Taiwanese custom cuemaker, to our specs. It was stated as such n the BC website, for almost 10 years. We told our SBE customers that, face to face, year after year. We never built cues, nor did we claim to.

We never, at any time, claimed to build cues, nor did we say the were US built.
I built 4 custom cues in my lifetime... too much work..
but those 4 cues are still out there somewhere.

Hate to see someone go there with this BS.

Although we retired years ago, ebay still has old listings on them.
We sold hundreds upon hundreds of those cues.

Last line of each advertisement of the BC production cue reads:

“We don't think you can find a better value
in a production cue than our BC series cues.”

I still believe that..

Joe....btw, I am coming out of retirement soon...

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ShootingArts said:

Joe, on general principles I try to avoid buying foreign made. Never the less, I may hold my nose and buy a REVO shaft soon. I really liked the one I hit with a few times. Rumor has it they are made in the USA anyway. Confusing times with foreign companies building factories in the US. Better to support the American worker or the American corporation? I don't know. I know my gut impulse but when I try to reason out the financial end of things I run around in circles. John Deere Built in Japan or Kubota built in the US of A?

There is nothing wrong with giving people an honest choice while being upfront with what you are selling. People can decide for themselves what they want. I am rarely in the market for a cue or shaft so I'm going on your word, which is good enough for me until proven otherwise. Doesn't much matter what you are selling, if you are upfront about it people can make their own choices.

Hu

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TATE said:

Just to clarify my own thoughts, I don't have a feeling one way or another about the cues themselves, just the false claims and hype used to sell them.

Two things about your post I really like:

1. The "wealth manager" comment. Would DeanO be available for that service too? :wink:

2. Point us to Krown cues.

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ShootingArts said:

They were represented as being made by a respected cue builder, now they have became a pig in a poke. I bought a semi-custom for about $165 a few years back. I could specify most things about a cue and it was custom built on production equipment.

The cue came, it looked nice. About six months later I bumped it against something and it broke half in two. What the hell? The insert wasn't threaded in and the small dab of glue with mostly air space where a threaded joint had been supposed to be had failed. No big deal, I favored a different pin and insert anyway. I pulled the pin, found it was very short in the wood. All through the cue corners had been cut. These things didn't show when new but time revealed them. The same with cutting corners on finishing, it can look great when new and prove false a short time down the road.

While the cues from dean were marketed as roughly finished on the outside, Jack's name backed a quality build on the inside. Now that the builder is a mystery and the amount of oversight is highly questionable the cues may be five hundred or more dollar cues, they may be sub two-hundred dollar cues. Buyers and those that were advertised to all have a right to be unhappy. When somebody tries to sucker me on a "fine used car only driven by a little ol' lady on Sunday" or miracle windows without a single molecule of air between the panes, I don't have to buy to be annoyed.

I have largely stayed out of the cue threads not being directly involved. However, I was the beneficiary of a dean PM that was quite a bit more revealing than I am sure he intended. Basically he deliberately plays games with the AZB members to prove he can. He and his buddies do nothing wrong. If they do anything wrong it isn't their fault. If it is their fault, it should be forgiven, ignoring the fact that neither he or his buddies have changed a bit. I don't believe in forgiving people that are keeping on doing the same thing.

I don't care much about dean one way or another. However when people jump to defend him it is fair to comment on both sides of the story. dean is far from lily white.

Hu

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ShootingArts said:

They were represented as being made by a respected cue builder, now they have became a pig in a poke. I bought a semi-custom for about $165 a few years back. I could specify most things about a cue and it was custom built on production equipment.

The cue came, it looked nice. About six months later I bumped it against something and it broke half in two. What the hell? The insert wasn't threaded in and the small dab of glue with mostly air space where a threaded joint had been supposed to be had failed. No big deal, I favored a different pin and insert anyway. I pulled the pin, found it was very short in the wood. All through the cue corners had been cut. These things didn't show when new but time revealed them. The same with cutting corners on finishing, it can look great when new and prove false a short time down the road.

While the cues from dean were marketed as roughly finished on the outside, Jack's name backed a quality build on the inside. Now that the builder is a mystery and the amount of oversight is highly questionable the cues may be five hundred or more dollar cues, they may be sub two-hundred dollar cues. Buyers and those that were advertised to all have a right to be unhappy. When somebody tries to sucker me on a "fine used car only driven by a little ol' lady on Sunday" or miracle windows without a single molecule of air between the panes, I don't have to buy to be annoyed.

I have largely stayed out of the cue threads not being directly involved. However, I was the beneficiary of a dean PM that was quite a bit more revealing than I am sure he intended. Basically he deliberately plays games with the AZB members to prove he can. He and his buddies do nothing wrong. If they do anything wrong it isn't their fault. If it is their fault, it should be forgiven, ignoring the fact that neither he or his buddies have changed a bit. I don't believe in forgiving people that are keeping on doing the same thing.

I don't care much about dean one way or another. However when people jump to defend him it is fair to comment on both sides of the story. dean is far from lily white.

Hu

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Bamacues said:

Which is why we did it many years ago...they were targeted for league players.

We sold a lot of them, and most people were very pleased. It has been 5-7 years ago, I think. I had not played pool since my wife got sick in 2012, so, a long time.

How have you been?
Joe

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ShootingArts said:

Up and down more than a yo-yo! These days I just kinda laugh in bemusement when the doctors find another major condition. Funny that working hard on my day jobs did more damage to my health than my misspent time in a pool hall. I'm planning on living until I die. Not playing much but working on a couple options to fix that!

All fun here. Hope things smooth out and you get back active.

Hu

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Bamacues said:

Seems like we wear out, for sure. I have had 3 surgeries, so far, just in the last year. My doctor knows my issues so well that he gave me his cell phone number with instructions to call him directly, if problems arise. When I had my last surgery in Baltimore, the day following, my doctor actually stopped by at the hotel room where my wife and I were staying to change dressings, etc, so we would not need to return to his office.

Best of luck to you, as well...day by day...

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CuesDirectly said:

Agreed, Dean does not speak Mandarin.

He did speak with me a minute ago, in fact we talked for 30 minutes, super nice guy.

I held firm, he needs the Gold.

I did ask who made them and all I will say is not Chinese.

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animatedvmaker said:

If they were made by a Chinese cue manufacturer, then the quality may have been far better then whoever did build the cues.

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Maniac said:

First (and only) time I watched Deliverance, I just wanted to down some Valium and chase it with a fifth if whiskey.

Maniac

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Bob Jewett said:

There is the occasional lightning bolt sent by the gods from the modern Olympus -- Scottsdale.

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HawaiianEye said:

Dean said that Jack made them.



Is that not the case?

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logical said:

Well, if that's what Dean said it must be true. I mean he has a great iTrader. He wouldn't try to mislead you.

Sent from the future.

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HawaiianEye said:

Dean said that Jack made them.

Is that not the case?

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