Banking off the end rail into the side

9BallPaul

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Made a shot last night that I've never attempted. Cueball was frozen to the object ball such that the only plausible shot was to impart english, go off the end rail and pray it would drop in the side.

And it did. Yet still, I've never seen a skilled player try to bank into the side off the end rail. Have I been missing something?
 
gdc25

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I do that all of the time. Except I'm always making the cue ball that way.:mad:
 
justadub

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gdc25 said:
I do that all of the time. Except I'm always making the cue ball that way.:mad:
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Ha! Me too :eek:

I actually tried that shot a couple of nights ago and almost made it. It was the only option I had. I'm quite sure I've seen one of my friends do it a couple of times before. I don't think it's that rare. Certainly not an everyday thing, either, I suppose...
 
Chi2dxa

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Same here but I scratch most of the time or jump the CB off the table. Bummer.
 
Hierovision

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9BallPaul said:
Yet still, I've never seen a skilled player try to bank into the side off the end rail. Have I been missing something?
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A local legend (Willie Simpson) that plays on base here considers that a viable option "if it feels right". Like any other shot it requires practice and confidence. A table with consistent rails helps too :p

I know he's played it on me a few times and I didn't appreciate it lol.
 
Q

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Not seen much, but I shoot that bank alot. Just stay outside the 23 degree mark off the end rail. It's really nice when you play it two rails off the side rail first! Bank On Brother, Freddy is the reason I have any clue about these banks BTW!
Dan
 
Black-Balled

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Neil said:
...Banking into the side from the end rail makes for a very small target, and a chance of sell out if missed.

Sometimes it can be played as a two way shot, but not that often. It's just a low percentage shot. And, whether it gets played or not really depends on the layout of the balls.
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agreed...useful especially in instances where one seeks to leave the CB on the rail that OB is coming off.

The sell-out is on...those points do funny things and the speed used dictates the OB isn't going too far from that side pocket.
 
jay helfert

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9BallPaul said:
Made a shot last night that I've never attempted. Cueball was frozen to the object ball such that the only plausible shot was to impart english, go off the end rail and pray it would drop in the side.

And it did. Yet still, I've never seen a skilled player try to bank into the side off the end rail. Have I been missing something?
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You have missed something Paul. If you ever attended Derby City during the Bank Pool event, you would see that same bank attempted many times and made frequently. It's a good option to try to make this shot and play safe at the same time. If you make it, you must now play a safety. If you miss it, you have already played safe.
 
steev

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It's especially viable when the table rolls toward that side. Hit it slow and short angle and watch it curve right in there.

Yeah, I play on a lot of crappy tables.

-s
 
leehayes

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I have used this shot several times when there was no other option to some pretty good success. During one match I had a break and run but due to the layout couldn't get the position I needed on the 8 and ended up with the 8 on the end rail and the CB in the middle of the table. I did this shot and played it a hair too soft. 8b stopped 1/2" from the hole. It's a great shot to learn...and not as hard as you think.
 
9BallPaul

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jay helfert said:
You have missed something Paul. If you ever attended Derby City during the Bank Pool event, you would see that same bank attempted many times and made frequently. It's a good option to try to make this shot and play safe at the same time. If you make it, you must now play a safety. If you miss it, you have already played safe.
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Thanks Jay. All of my Derby visits have been skedded around the 9-ball tournament, so I've never watched a good game of bank pool. I'll have to give it a good watch some day.

As for banking into the side, I'm gonna start practicing it for special occasions.
 
Str8PoolPlayer

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I consider that a normal shot in Bar League 8-Ball,
and have made it a good percentage of the time.

The Side Pockets are usually HUGE on Bar Tables, which
helps immensely when attempting the shot.
 
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Masayoshi

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In Japan, we play a ring game where the side pockets pay double, sometimes this shot comes up and is worth the risk if the cut on a money ball doesn't go and the corner bank looks too tough to attempt for 1 point.
 
hangemhigh

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Banks it comes up regularly, like Jay said you see it quite a bit in that game. It's a pocket speed shot.
 
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Driller

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Str8PoolPlayer said:
I consider that a normal shot in Bar League 8-Ball,
and have made it a good percentage of the time.

The Side Pockets are usually HUGE on Bar Tables, which
helps immensely when attempting the shot.
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Actually bar tables usually have tighter side pockets on the ones that I have played on. But the corners are buckets.
 
Tokyo-dave

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Masayoshi said:
In Japan, we play a ring game where the side pockets pay double, sometimes this shot comes up and is worth the risk if the cut on a money ball doesn't go and the corner bank looks too tough to attempt for 1 point.
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"Goku shimasuka?" "Te sen onegaishimasu"
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