11/7 Letter from IPT

AzHousePro said:
Dear IPT Players:

In my last e-mail I told you to pop the champagne. This may have been a
little premature; for that I sincerely apologize. First, I want to clarify
the most important issue. You all will be paid 100 percent of the $3
million prize fund from the World Tournament. You will be paid 100 percent,
in full.

As you are aware, President Bush has signed a new law making online gaming
in America illegal. Online gaming was an integral part of the IPT business
model. Over one year ago I met with representatives at HoCasino.com and
structured a strategy that would combine online gaming with our pool website
and televised pool matches. This business "trade secret" was the magic
ingredient that produced a viable, profitable business model and revenue
stream that would make the IPT a profitable ongoing business enterprise.
The unforeseen, surprise, and sudden outlawing of online gaming in America
dramatically and instantly reduced the IPT's 2006 sponsorship revenue and
additional funding sources by over 80 percent. This totally unforeseen and
unfortunate development has caused a temporary shortfall in IPT revenues.
This has forced us to delay your prize money from the last tournament. Even
with the funding that we have received in the last week, a major shortfall
still exists. Even with this shortfall, it is still the IPT's intention to
pay all players, in full, 100 percent of the prize money promised. We are
organizing additional funding sources now to get you paid in full as soon as
possible. For the future, we have commitments, based on the IPO of Ho
Interactive, of $25 million from institutional investors after the first of
the year.

The funding and sponsorship money that was promised to us was reduced to
only 20 percent of what was originally committed. Other sponsors and
funding sources are being organized now.

Again, I want to make perfectly clear that all players will be paid 100
percent, in full. At this time, due to these funding shortfalls, the IPT
cannot immediately pay all of the prize money. What we are committed to do
is pay all players a portion of the prize money due each week, starting this
week, until you are paid in full. I appreciate your displeasure with not
receiving 100 percent of the money immediately. However, please know that
no one is more disappointed than me.

This situation was created by the congressional legislation outlawing online
gaming. It was completely unforeseen, unavoidable, and came as a complete
surprise to everyone. Partypoker and other publicly traded online gaming
companies lost 70% of their value in one day because of this surprise law.
Investors, including myself, lost over $15 billion in combined valuation
following the signing of this new legislation. Nobody in the online gaming
community or international investor community saw this coming. Because of
it, our investors, sponsors, and funding sources temporarily put the IPT on
hold. We are handling this situation and are doing everything we can to
correct it. Based on this new U.S. law, the IPT's business model is
currently being revised to deal with this substantial change.

Many of you may wonder why I do not personally put the money in the IPT to
pay the players. I have already personally invested over $10 million to
date into the IPT. The IPT must operate as a profitable, independent
corporation to achieve long-term success. Remember, I have the most to lose
if the IPT is not successful. In business, unforeseen circumstances can
dramatically change the viability of an enterprise. Hotel owners in New
Orleans had to dramatically alter their businesses when hurricane Katrina
wiped out their hotels. People who were promised rooms did not receive
them. The hotel owner lost money. Everyone was adversely affected by the
unforeseen hurricane. When an airline is not profitable, it closes down.
Passengers who paid for tickets lost all their money due to the business
failure. The stockholders and owners of the airline lost the most. When
companies fail to achieve profitability they file bankruptcy. All of the
creditors do not get paid. Customers lose, vendors lose, employees lose,
and stockholders lose. These things happen in business all the time.
Business owners do not personally fund companies whose business models are
adversely affected by changing market conditions, new legislation, or
natural disasters. Donald Trump bankrupts companies instead of personally
putting cash into those enterprises. The wealthiest people in the world do
not continually fund businesses out of their personal assets. They have a
lot more money than I do, yet they still don't personally fund business
ventures. To date, I have personally invested more money into the IPT than
any successful business person would ever consider. I took the risk and
invested the money when nobody else in or out of the industry even
considered putting up a dollar. I did it because of my sincere love of the
game, my personal friendships with several players, and my total belief that
a professional pool tour can be an enormous success.

Due to the new U.S. law, the IPT's business model and operating structure
will change. I have $10 million invested in this business and I have every
intention and desire to deal with this situation and make the IPT a
long-term viable business and tour. I have the most to lose. You, as
players, should have a strong desire for the IPT to succeed. If the IPT
continues and succeeds, all of you will financially benefit. If the IPT no
longer exists, we all lose. As players, you should consider being
understanding and supportive of this tour. It is in your personal best
interest to do whatever you can so that the tour deals with this business
model change and continues year after year.

I want to answer directly several questions. Will there be another
tournament? The answer is absolutely yes! Most importantly, every player
will have been paid 100 percent, in full, before the next tournament. Will
there be a 2007 season? The answer is absolutely yes. We are working with
venues and dates now. We hope to announce the tournaments for 2007 very
shortly. Is the Ho Interactive merger completed? No. We are still
finalizing documents for the Ho Interactive acquisition. The delay has been
caused by a dramatic restating of our pro forma and business plan based on
the new U.S. legislation. It still appears to be a deal that will happen.
However, our backup plan is to do an independent IPO of the IPT regardless
of whether HoCasino.com is involved.

Our television coverage on VS in primetime is expanding. Our European Euro
Sport TV coverage is also expanding. We will be announcing further
television broadcasting deals for IPT tournaments. Our broadcasting
partners are excited and committed to the IPT for the 2007 season and
beyond. The IPT continues to achieve more television broadcasting than any
billiard tour in history. We continue to generate never before seen ratings
for billiards. With massive TV coverage world-wide, and strong ratings, we
are attracting major sponsors for the 2007 tour and beyond. Fortune 500
companies look at TV distribution and ratings. We have achieved
unprecedented success in both of these areas. Major sponsors budget a year
in advance for sponsorship initiatives. I will have great pleasure
silencing critics when we announce unprecedented major corporate sponsorship
for the 2007 season.

Please remember that when I launched the IPT we were met with massive
negativity and skepticism. I was criticized for every decision I made by
players, so-called fans, billiard organizations, and competitors. The IPT
plan was the most ambitious and risky business endeavor in billiards
history. I have my own personal money at risk. I have been attacked
personally and repeatedly even though we have, in fact, achieved great
things. Remember, we have paid out over $3 1/2 million in prize money
directly to the players. We have put on world-class tournaments sparing no
expense, providing the best accommodations for spectators and players. We
have paid over $1 million providing free food to players. For the first
time in billiards history we have secured primetime television coverage in
America with a major broadcast partner. For the first time in history, pool
is being broadcast live in primetime in Europe. For the first time ever,
pool is achieving spectacular ratings on television. Major sponsors are
coming onboard.

Yes, not having the players paid from the last tournament is more than
disappointing. Yes, having to cancel a planned tournament is disappointing.
Yes, having to reschedule several tournaments is disappointing. I admit
that our 2006 tournament schedule was overly optimistic and overly
ambitious. If I were to do it all over again, I would have had only one
tournament this year and built the business slower. Creating such high
expectations based on the commitments I received from funding sources and
sponsors was a mistake.

Overall I believe that the positives dramatically outweigh the negatives.
Mistakes were made. I am sure more mistakes will be made. I believe we all
should focus on the positives and the achievements we have made so far, and
focus on the future as we deal with this challenging temporary situation
caused by the new U.S. legislation.

I wish I could call each and every player personally, but time commitments
make this impossible. I would like to personally thank the overwhelming
majority of players who have e-mailed me and left messages offering their
support, understanding, and patience. To the players who have been vocally
negative, I would like to say I appreciate and understand your frustration
and disappointment. I would ask for your understanding and patience. At
this point it would be easy for me to shut down the IPT and have it become
another failed sports business venture like the USFL, XFL, or the dozens of
other attempted sports leagues that have failed. This would be the easy
thing to do. However, my whole life I have received great pleasure in
silencing critics and proving people wrong. To all the nay-sayers I would
simply say, "You will eat your words."

Remember, all players will be receiving checks this week and each week
thereafter until paid in full. There will be a robust 2007 season and
beyond. If you want to play in these tournaments I encourage you to do so.
If you choose not to play in IPT events, that will be your choice. I am
taking the IPT to the very top and whoever wants to come along with me is
welcome!

Remember, the dogs may bark but the caravan moves on!

Very truly yours,

Kevin Trudeau, Founder
International Pool Tour


LOL, this is absolutely ridiculous. This entire letter is loaded with more lies and stalling tactics. The whole story that he is trying to get everyone to believe is goddamn bullsh*t. The only reason he sent this is to try and appease everyone for a little while longer because he knows that the players have reached their toleration limit. The fact that he still thinks that anyone will believe any of this is appalling to say the least. More stall from the biggest piece of sh*t I've ever seen.
 
We know you're reading AZ forums.

Thanks for staying in touch.

NOW SHOW US THE MONEY !

Then you can start over with your new plan.

PS. Saying things with your fingers crossed is still a lying.
 
I agree with some folks above - I figure the fact that the players themselves are talking about starting something up is probably the primary reason for this latest letter.

And I agree with some folks above - I hope it's not BS - I hope they *do* pay out the $3mil, I hope they *do* get tournaments scheduled again, etc etc.

But, I agree with some folks above - I'll believe it when I see it.

I just have to wonder about the business sense of someone who's basing a significant portion of their business plan on GAMBLING - online or not. And why would sponsors pull 80% of their funds due to the online gambling ban? Sponsorship is money GIVEN in exchange for, usually, advertising/product placement/etc. Was the plan to flash sponsor logos up on a web page every time some schmoe clicked that "Bet $5 on Efren" button?
 
ScottW said:
I agree with some folks above - I figure the fact that the players themselves are talking about starting something up is probably the primary reason for this latest letter.

And I agree with some folks above - I hope it's not BS - I hope they *do* pay out the $3mil, I hope they *do* get tournaments scheduled again, etc etc.

But, I agree with some folks above - I'll believe it when I see it.

I just have to wonder about the business sense of someone who's basing a significant portion of their business plan on GAMBLING - online or not. And why would sponsors pull 80% of their funds due to the online gambling ban? Sponsorship is money GIVEN in exchange for, usually, advertising/product placement/etc. Was the plan to flash sponsor logos up on a web page every time some schmoe clicked that "Bet $5 on Efren" button?

The gambling excuse is 100% BULL$HIT!

Don't forget this is the guy that cancelled London because of the terrorist threat! LMAO :D Oh and he didn't reschedule because he "couldn't find another venue".....anyone still beleive that excuse now?

PS
He forgot that his staff told JAM in Vegas BEFORE the terrorists had even been a twinkle in CNN's eye that London was going to be cancelled!
:eek:
 
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Blaming the new Onling Gambling law doesn't hold water for me either. The rest of the world isn't bound by this law and it is the International Pool Tour. Whenever I'm gambling online, at least half to two-thirds of the table is foreign. Ho International, I'm sure, understands that even if the USA is not at the table, LOTS of money can be made. I don't buy the logic that this new law is what the problem is....the recent letter by KT just sounds like more bs preparation of showing "good faith" when he is sued.
 
I telling you all its as simple as this:

  1. They produced a video saying step aside poker theirs a new king in town.
  2. Deno tells various people they expect to get 64 players at every qualifier!
  3. The numbers didn't add up, more qualifiers where created, entries where increased, bonuses and challenge matches where cut.
  4. 1st event was cancelled - terrorists blamed.
  5. payment was delayed - gambling, FEDEX and host of other excuses blamed.

Bottom line is their business model sucked and their payouts where too high. Pool could never fund a tour like poker does.
 
rayjay said:
Blaming the new Onling Gambling law doesn't hold water for me either. The rest of the world isn't bound by this law and it is the International Pool Tour. Whenever I'm gambling online, at least half to two-thirds of the table is foreign. Ho International, I'm sure, understands that even if the USA is not at the table, LOTS of money can be made. I don't buy the logic that this new law is what the problem is....the recent letter by KT just sounds like more bs preparation of showing "good faith" when he is sued.


Exactly how does the ownership, or lack of, effect the business model of on-line gambling. What exactly changes?

What is the advantage or disadvantage of Ho international owning, or not owning, the IPT?

Unless they planned on arranging the outcomes of the matches, why would Ho even be interested?

Lots of questions, no rational answers!! Like everything else KT says, it just doesn't make too much sense.

Jim
 
To Aunty Dan

Your 'double' post is very well done, extremely thought out, and probably more thought given to it than KT's letter. You brought out all the important 'statements' that KT made and made hash out of what he said. IF he had stated that weekly payments of what % is owed to each player, it would have held just a bit more water, but that would have been a statement that legal minds could add to any possible lawsuit. It seems there are already enough statements from KT that meant nothing - why add insult to injury.
I give you credit, Aunty Dan, for dissecting this last letter so very well.
I still say that nothing is more important at this point than the players being paid in full for what they have earned and were promised.

Thanks,
Beckyzilla
 
As far as the online gambling thing goes - that only bars US banks and other similar institutions from making payments to the operators of online gambling sites. Basically it just keeps people using US banks from using their accounts to transfer money to a gambling site to gamble with.

If a US citizen had a bank account with a bank outside the US (offshore, Europe, etc) - I imagine they could get around that issue. But most US folks don't have such accounts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_gambling#United_States

And still - like someone else said - all this does is affect the US market. Everywhere else, there's no issues with gambling and getting cash to the gambling site operators.

Now we all are pretty aware that the US market is the primary market for this whole thing, at least from the get-go, though...
 
AzHousePro said:
This situation was created by the congressional legislation outlawing online
gaming. It was completely unforeseen, unavoidable, and came as a complete
surprise to everyone. Partypoker and other publicly traded online gaming
companies lost 70% of their value in one day because of this surprise law.

Here is a link to the share prices for major publically traded online casinos for the time period 10/10/2006 - 10/30/2006.

KT is a lying piece of shite.

http://chart.investis.com/graphs/ge...symbol_list=PRTY.L,SBT.L,888.L,EOL.L,FTSE+100
 
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Aunty Dan

Good Dissection. Good reminder and summary of the ramblings and deceit coming from this guy. Its shows that what he says means almost nothing. You need to act and react to what he DOES. Don't be like some boxer who gets in the ring and fights according to what his opponent lays out in some pre-fight interview meant to throw you off. NO. Fight in retaliation to what he does only..
 
Tap, Tap, Tap

Aunty Dan wrote:
<snipped a lengthy, well thought out, hillarious post, worthy of a Tap,Tap,Tap>


That was an entertaining read.... imo
Thanks for investing the time and wit.
Doug
( and thanks for not mentioning the 'Blue Votes.' )
 
dan_boersma said:
Here is a link to the share prices for major publically traded online casinos for the time period 10/10/2006 - 10/30/2006.

KT is a lying piece of shite.

http://chart.investis.com/graphs/ge...symbol_list=PRTY.L,SBT.L,888.L,EOL.L,FTSE+100

No offense, but that graph could be for anything.

I've been poking around trying to find specific stock info on PartyPoker.net (parent company Interskill Games LTD), and haven't yet found *anything*. Anyone know what the stock symbol is for this company, if there even *is* one?
 
ScottW said:
No offense, but that graph could be for anything.

I've been poking around trying to find specific stock info on PartyPoker.net (parent company Interskill Games LTD), and haven't yet found *anything*. Anyone know what the stock symbol is for this company, if there even *is* one?

Party Poker is traded on the London Stock exchange. Im not sure of the symbol there. I don't believe it is traded on the American Stock exchange. Hope this helps. Party stock really tumbled when they pulled out of the U.S. market. The US was the biggest part of their income. I personally thought it was a little premature. Considering that even after Oct 13., there is a 270 day window of figuring out how to enforce the new Act. But thats my opinion.
 
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macguy said:
I hope the Philippine death squads are busy sharpening their machetes. I look forward to seeing this guy getting whacked.


So, Macguy......, I guess this means you would not give KT "your understanding and patience"? :rolleyes:
 
November 18, 2005: H.R. 4411 (Internet Gambling Prohibition and Enforcement Act) introduced.

Nov 30- Dec 4, 2005: IPT King of the Hill takes place. Players paid.

February 16, 2006: H. R. 4777 (Internet Gambling Prohibition Act) introduced.

July 1, 2006: H. R. 4411 passed House, amended.

July 10, 2006: H. R. 4777 is reported to the House, amended.
H. Res. 907: Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 4411) to prevent the use of certain payment instruments, credit cards, and fund transfers for unlawful Internet gambling.

July 11, 2006: Republican leaders decided to fold H.R. 4777 into H. R. 4411 for floor action on July 13, 2006.

July 13, 2006: After H. R. 4777 (Internet Gambling Prohibition Act) is folded into H. R. 4411 (Internet Gambling Prohibition and Enforcement Act), the amended H. R. 4411 is read the second and third time on the floor and placed on Senate Legislative Calendar for vote. The bill is now officially approved by the House of Representatives and must be voted on by the Senate.

July 22-30: IPT NA Open takes place. Players are paid.

September 2-10: IPT World Open takes place. Players are not paid.
The bill has not become law yet. How can Trudeau say a bill that hasn’t even been sent to the President is the reason the players didn’t get paid? If it came out of nowhere, he still wouldn’t have known about it at this point.


September 14, 2006: This bill passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting.

September 22, 2006: Congress has approved the Act and it is placed on the Union Calendar for Executive Branch consideration.

October 13, 2006: President Bush signs the law making it Public Law 109-347. The Act is title VIII of a completely unrelated bill, the Safe Port Act, HR 4954, dealing with port security. He makes no mention of title VIII as he signs the new law.

The law doesn’t make online gaming illegal in the US anymore than it already was. The reason Party Poker and other stocks tanked was because of speculation, not because of this law.

BTW, as a result of his company filing for Chapter 11 Protection, in May of 2005 Donald Trump relinquished his CEO position.

I hope the readers of this forum are clear about KT’s newest round of BS.
 
That's not accurate.

CNN ran an entire piece on how that law pretty much disintegrated the stock value of the three largest publicly traded online gambling companies. I'm going off of memory, but 888 and partypoker.net were some of them.

Here is the report from Forbes Magazine. Whether you guys are KT haters or lovers, he's VERY accurate with the content of his letter (regarding online gambling):

Online Bets Are Off
Parmy Olson, 10.02.06, 10:00 AM ET

After several nerve-racking months, online gambling companies have been put out of their misery in a most abrupt way. A bill was passed by the U.S. Congress over the weekend, outlawing credit-card and money-transfer companies from accepting payments to gambling Web sites--effectively halving the value of some large-cap online gambling stocks.

PartyGaming, one of the world's biggest gambling sites, crashed 57%, to 46 pence (86 cents), in early-afternoon trading on the London Stock Exchange on Monday, while 888 Holdings fell 33%, to 98 pence ($1.83). Both companies released statements saying that they would suspend their operations in the United States once President George W. Bush signed the bill into law, after which it will take up to 270 days before the new rules are fully enforced.

"We'll stick to the letter of the law," said a spokesman for 888. "As soon as he signs it, we'll stop taking bets from U.S. customers." Doing so will have a "material adverse impact" on 888's results for this year and beyond, the company said in a statement.

"The passing of the act was unexpected," said John Shepherd, a spokesman for PartyGaming. "But it's been clear for some time that various members in Congress were looking to take action against non-U.S. online gaming companies."

Andrew Lee, an analyst at Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein, said the bill was "hugely surprising." "It was last-minute, back-door, with no debate and no formal vote," he said. For large online gambling companies like PartyGaming, which gets three quarters of its earnings from the U.S., the bill was "a massive blow."

PartyGaming's Chief Executive Mitch Garber said in a statement that the passing of the bill was "a significant setback for our company, our shareholders, our players and our industry." He pointed to the company's "highly profitable and rapidly growing non-U.S. business." PartyGaming plans to launch several multi-language sites by the end of this year, with multi-currency capabilities introduced soon after.

Many in the industry had expected that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act would never make it through the Senate. However, late on Friday, Senate Majority Leader and presidential hopeful Bill Frist apparently tacked the measure onto a port security bill. The bill was passed by a vote of 409 to 2 in the final minutes before Congress recessed.

"He found a bill he could attach it to that would not result in the opposition of the other side," said Joseph Kelly, a business law professor at State University of New York at Buffalo who studies online gambling. "But it's going to take a while before the mechanism can be developed to provide regulation to the financial transaction providers."

Until now, U.S. laws governing Internet gambling have been ambiguous, leaving the way open for the $12 billion online industry to flourish with American customers.

But while the new act now categorically outlaws online gambling (the previous 1961 Wire Act was only used to charge firms that took sports bets), Kelly believes American gamblers will still find a way to pay their online bets. That's because despite the new law, the majority of the more than 2,000 offshore online gambling companies will continue to take bets from the United States, he said. "The smaller companies who are not publicly traded will keep going. What have they got to lose?"

Indeed, the big question now, according I. Nelson Rose, a professor at Whittier Law School in Los Angeles, is how far into Internet commerce federal regulators are willing to go. "The act requires institutions like the Bank of America and Neteller to identify and block transactions to unlawful gambling sites, whatever they are," he said. "But, while the Bank of America will comply, Neteller [which is based in Britain] might not, because it is not subject to U.S. regulations."

While some offshore fund-transfer companies might continue to profit off online gambling in America, onshore bookies in the U.S. now at least have palpable cause for celebration, said Kenneth Weitzner, an online gambling expert known in the industry as The Shrink. On his Eye on Gambling Web site, Wietzner noted that New York City bookmakers were seen partying in Central Park late Friday night and into the early hours. "Their business is expected to quadruple," he said.

Dresdner's Lee agrees that U.S. gambling resorts and casinos like MGM Mirage (nyse: MGM - news - people ) and Harrah's Entertainment (nyse: HET - news - people )--which is reportedly being eyed by a private-equity consortium--may be the few to profit from the new law, along with the horse-racing industry, lotteries and fantasy sports operators, who have all been carved out of the new law.

Lee believes Frist's political ambition, lobbying from the Christian right and a protectionist sentiment were the three main drivers behind the bill. He also thinks that a few years down the line, if the U.S. does eventually allow for a regulated online gambling industry, American companies will get first dibs on licenses before foreign operators like PartyGaming and 888 Holdings can, after seeing their earnings severely dented, limp back in.
 
ScottW said:
No offense, but that graph could be for anything.

I've been poking around trying to find specific stock info on PartyPoker.net (parent company Interskill Games LTD), and haven't yet found *anything*. Anyone know what the stock symbol is for this company, if there even *is* one?

The graph was taken directly from the site of Party Pokers parent company, Party games. I was directed to it through the partypoker.com site.

Here is the data for just party gaming, from the London stock exchange, for the same time period:

http://www.londonstockexchange.com/...m=GI000A0ERMF2GBGBXSET3B0B3SV4PRTY#PriceChart

no offense taken.

As an aside, it IS apparent that the stocks had been sliding far before the OCT 13 signing. This was not a complete suprise, the whole market knew about it and was correcting long before KT says he was suprised.


Regardless, he 'gauranteed' players money based on speculation. This is another example of his dishonesty. Not that one needed another, just look at the crap he sells to the ignorant and the aged. The guy is scum.
 
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