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LILJOHN30 said:
Have U ever Played with a Southwest?
This is EXACTLY how I feel. I play with two custom Samsara cues...one worth $1200, and the other (my show cue) worth $4000. They have a few dings in the finish, from college kids using them (and things like Peer described). I couldn't care less. My job, as a rep, is to let as many people play with these cues, as I am able...so that the one's who like them, can order their own. The dings certainly don't detract from the way the cues play.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Peer said:
A scam on eBay? 
Say it ain't so! ROFLMAO! It should be called eSCAM, imo. BTW, Jim...sorry for your loss!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Say it ain't so! ROFLMAO! It should be called eSCAM, imo. BTW, Jim...sorry for your loss!Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Jim Kuykendall said:
I wonder how many would play with a dinged up Balabushka? I would, if it played well.
Most of Southwest's Cues are expensive, but folks buy them to play with...
I have a $2000 Auerbach (full of ivory) & I do play with it occasionally, it is my SHOW CUE. Everyone likes this baby...
Most of Southwest's Cues are expensive, but folks buy them to play with...
I have a $2000 Auerbach (full of ivory) & I do play with it occasionally, it is my SHOW CUE. Everyone likes this baby...
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Custom Cues...Used for playing
IMO , YES, use the cues, ESPECIALLY A TASCARELLA !!!
Petes cues are definitely collectible, BUT ALSO SUPERB PLAYERS!
Improve your game and make some money with your cues"
Many cue-makers put thier heart and soul into building cues, but seldom get used, Barry S, Dennis S, John Showman, many many more are making great-playing cues and have ALOT in euipment and research to build excellent playing cues,
I say use the cues, take good care of them and make some money with them too:wink:
IMO , YES, use the cues, ESPECIALLY A TASCARELLA !!!
Petes cues are definitely collectible, BUT ALSO SUPERB PLAYERS!
Improve your game and make some money with your cues"
Many cue-makers put thier heart and soul into building cues, but seldom get used, Barry S, Dennis S, John Showman, many many more are making great-playing cues and have ALOT in euipment and research to build excellent playing cues,
I say use the cues, take good care of them and make some money with them too:wink:
Hunter...If that's one of Santa's 'helpers', in your avitar, WHERE do I apply for the job? LOL:thumbup:
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I already play with cues valued more than $1,000, so I would say yes to $2,500.
This kind of reminds me of cars.
If we buy an expensive car, we still drive it and know that eventually it might get scratched or chipped paint from driving it. If we have enough money to buy more than one car, we only take out that one special, high-end car during special occasions. Or when we want to show off. Or, maybe the high-end car is your favorite and so you drive it all the time anyway.
So, if I only have one cue and it's high end, I will shoot with it. If I have more than one cue, I would choose the one that I love to shoot with best and either save the others for special times or just as collectibles.
:thumbup:
Good question, btw!
This kind of reminds me of cars.
If we buy an expensive car, we still drive it and know that eventually it might get scratched or chipped paint from driving it. If we have enough money to buy more than one car, we only take out that one special, high-end car during special occasions. Or when we want to show off. Or, maybe the high-end car is your favorite and so you drive it all the time anyway.
So, if I only have one cue and it's high end, I will shoot with it. If I have more than one cue, I would choose the one that I love to shoot with best and either save the others for special times or just as collectibles.
:thumbup:
Good question, btw!
I've got a $2400 Mottey that I play with once in a while.
I just have a couple of other cues I feel more comfortable with.
The first time I shot with it, some guy went off the wall and beat me.
Then he made some crack about maybe I paid too much for the stick.
I just have a couple of other cues I feel more comfortable with.
The first time I shot with it, some guy went off the wall and beat me.
Then he made some crack about maybe I paid too much for the stick.
jay helfert said:I keep trying to tell you, Bob Jewett is really Teller (from Penn and Teller) moonlighting as a pool player, just so he has somewhere he can use his voice.
I think it's the other way around; it's Teller who masquerades as Bob Jewett, using the magic Balabushka wand for some trickery:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaSKh1PSqok
-- peer
ScottR said:
Hello Scott 1-900-0000,
It would seem odd to me that a person would spend $2,500.00 on a cue and not play with it......but then again I am guilty of that.....but then again I play with a Searing,Showman,Manzino,Szamboti etc.
The cue I always play with is a Searing and I don't think about the money issue...(well that isn't always true, whenever I get a new cue I kinda freak out about not getting any finger prints or nicks on the cue). But then again to properly break in a cue one must acquire a few nicks,finger prints, and a few grease stains on the wrap from like burgers,fries and chips. (I'm not kidding!)
I know guys that have saved and traded up over time to acquire a really nice cue that is worth say $ 2,500.00 or more and played with the cue and I have known some to pay $ 2,500.00 + and never hit a ball.
So, I guess the answer is....off course!!
But then again maybe....of course not!!
...........of course!!!
PS. Of course one would have to describe what is a collectable cue and I may not agree with some as to what is collectable and what cuemaker's are real collectable cues.
So let's just ask the question.....
Would you play with a $ 2,500.00+ cue.
Of course!!!!:wink:
Many years ago.......
It was a long time ago, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, I was at a tournament in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I finished playing in the tournament and a cue re-seller, I forget his name, maybe Jim, maybe Jim Anderson I'm not sure; he had a phenomenal number of cues laid out on a couple of pool tables in the corner. At the time, I played with a Mark Moore cue which cost several hundred dollars and with which I was quite content to play with.
When I got within glancing distance of the plethora of cues, "Jim" asked if I would like to hit some balls with some of his cues. I resisted initially and told him I wasn't really in the market to purchase a cue but as any good salesman would do, he said, "That's all right, you might find something that interests you, try a few".
As I picked up one cue after the other, not knowing a Bender from a Palmer, well almost; I hit balls with one cue after the other. It was an 8 foot table with rather large pockets and I was warping balls in the hole on virtually every shot. I was in good stroke and the extra large pockets and small distance that the object ball and cue had to travel gave me increasing confidence. I have always paid attention to the cues I hit with, making sure not to hit with anything but the tip of the cue, making sure not to scrape the butt or ding the sides of the shafts. When I would pick a cue and hit a few balls with it always at warp speed, drilling the balls in the pocket; I would pause to look at the cue to admire the inlays and the rare woods that were used. "jim would tell me, "That's a such and such cue" and give me a litany of information relative to the each cue, along with the price.
I had hit balls with dozens of cues and I picked up on cue and with brazen authority I warped in several balls and Jim said, "That's a Bill Shick cue and it used to belong to (I forget the pool player's name) and it sells for $6500.00". At that moment in time, I almost fainted. I looked down at the tiny price sticker and sure enough, $6500.00. I handed the cue back to Jim apologizing all the while for hitting the balls so hard and explained that I could not hit balls with such an expensive cue because I feared I might break the ferrule or the tip would fly off or some other such accident. Jim laughed and said he had watched me play and that he knew I would accidentally damage any cue that I played with and if a tip did come off or a ferrule did break, then those parts were defective and would need to be replaced but he had no fear of such a thing and continued to urge me to hit with all of his other cues. As I developed a sense of realization about the dependability of the cues to hold up under my constant poundings and the confidence that I would not damage the cues in doing so, I removed many of my fears of using an expensive cue to play with. THANKS JIM!
To say I had a great time would be an understatement and remember one of the cues that I enjoyed hitting balls with was a used Ernie Marinez cue that was valued at about $500.00. I remember that hit as if it were yesterday and in honor of that rare but fine hitting cue I suggest you take a look at Ernie's cues. His skill in design and crafting has apparently improved even more since that day many years ago and you can see some of his work at his new web site http://www.emcues.com/gallery.php
One day, I hope to have one of Ernie's cues. In the meantime, I will struggle on with my Mike Bender POW-MIA cue.
You can see my cue at http://immediateeffects.com/youarenotforgotten/ The pictures are still held on Immediate Effects website. They are web site designers and have provided the generous hosting for my POW-MIA cue.
JoeyA
It was a long time ago, maybe 10 or 15 years ago, I was at a tournament in Kalamazoo, Michigan. I finished playing in the tournament and a cue re-seller, I forget his name, maybe Jim, maybe Jim Anderson I'm not sure; he had a phenomenal number of cues laid out on a couple of pool tables in the corner. At the time, I played with a Mark Moore cue which cost several hundred dollars and with which I was quite content to play with.
When I got within glancing distance of the plethora of cues, "Jim" asked if I would like to hit some balls with some of his cues. I resisted initially and told him I wasn't really in the market to purchase a cue but as any good salesman would do, he said, "That's all right, you might find something that interests you, try a few".
As I picked up one cue after the other, not knowing a Bender from a Palmer, well almost; I hit balls with one cue after the other. It was an 8 foot table with rather large pockets and I was warping balls in the hole on virtually every shot. I was in good stroke and the extra large pockets and small distance that the object ball and cue had to travel gave me increasing confidence. I have always paid attention to the cues I hit with, making sure not to hit with anything but the tip of the cue, making sure not to scrape the butt or ding the sides of the shafts. When I would pick a cue and hit a few balls with it always at warp speed, drilling the balls in the pocket; I would pause to look at the cue to admire the inlays and the rare woods that were used. "jim would tell me, "That's a such and such cue" and give me a litany of information relative to the each cue, along with the price.
I had hit balls with dozens of cues and I picked up on cue and with brazen authority I warped in several balls and Jim said, "That's a Bill Shick cue and it used to belong to (I forget the pool player's name) and it sells for $6500.00". At that moment in time, I almost fainted. I looked down at the tiny price sticker and sure enough, $6500.00. I handed the cue back to Jim apologizing all the while for hitting the balls so hard and explained that I could not hit balls with such an expensive cue because I feared I might break the ferrule or the tip would fly off or some other such accident. Jim laughed and said he had watched me play and that he knew I would accidentally damage any cue that I played with and if a tip did come off or a ferrule did break, then those parts were defective and would need to be replaced but he had no fear of such a thing and continued to urge me to hit with all of his other cues. As I developed a sense of realization about the dependability of the cues to hold up under my constant poundings and the confidence that I would not damage the cues in doing so, I removed many of my fears of using an expensive cue to play with. THANKS JIM!
To say I had a great time would be an understatement and remember one of the cues that I enjoyed hitting balls with was a used Ernie Marinez cue that was valued at about $500.00. I remember that hit as if it were yesterday and in honor of that rare but fine hitting cue I suggest you take a look at Ernie's cues. His skill in design and crafting has apparently improved even more since that day many years ago and you can see some of his work at his new web site http://www.emcues.com/gallery.php
One day, I hope to have one of Ernie's cues. In the meantime, I will struggle on with my Mike Bender POW-MIA cue.
You can see my cue at http://immediateeffects.com/youarenotforgotten/ The pictures are still held on Immediate Effects website. They are web site designers and have provided the generous hosting for my POW-MIA cue.
JoeyA
Scott Lee said:
But honestly Scott if your were a rep for these cues, would you let every Tom, Dick, and Harry play with them.
Personally my Cues are like my Car, and other pocession of value, peole don't get to use em.
If you want to look, look with your evers only, ALL HANDS EXCEPT MINE IS THE RULE.
But honestly Bruce...I DO let every Tom, Dick, Harry or even Harriet play with them...it's my job. The cues were created for me expressly for that purpose, knowing that they would get into the hands of thousands of players, and hundreds of potential customers, down the road.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
CocoboloCowboy said:
cuejunky...To be clear, on what the term "show cue" means...I tour the country doing exhibitions in the college market. The fancy Samsara is what I use as my playing cue, for those exhibitions. I let anyone play with them...under my supervision, of course. Even so, accidents happen, and there are a few small dings in the finish. It doesn't matter to me, as the cues are merely tools of my trade. I say all the time...I would never hire a carpenter with a shiny hammer! :grin:
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
cuejunky said: