Nice cue, has a bow in the nose.. but still Wico pointed. Great piece of history, first Palmer with the foil I have ever seen ABOVE the wrap... Missing small piece in top of point...
JV
JV
1965-66 Wico Palmer custom model
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Wow.
Super cool.
chris G<--------my cup of tea
Super cool.
chris G<--------my cup of tea
Joe, what is the value of this cue with and without the bow?
" Really nice older cue "
What a find
What a find
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Good question, I would like to think 1800 or so... plus or minus.. I don't know what the name foil above the wrap would add
JV
While this cue is at Proficient getting cleaned up I noticed that the bottom was similar to a Model 5 from the first catalog, at leas the catalog that everyone calls the first.
I think this is a custom 5 where there are two bands of diamonds, instead of two bands of dots.. Here is a typical model 5 backend...
I am also attaching another WICO point forearm we had...
JV
I think this is a custom 5 where there are two bands of diamonds, instead of two bands of dots.. Here is a typical model 5 backend...
I am also attaching another WICO point forearm we had...
JV
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Judging by this cue they were V shape. Very possibly extruded as an V shape,
JV
JV
Proficient Billiards... worthy of praise!!!
Scot did a bang up job on this cue. You can see he wet sanded the back end, wow what a difference. He made a new shaft using the old parts and he filled in the missing piece of point, and restored the point tips very nicely. Normally I wouldn't have had any finish added, but you need to keep these things as stable as possible.. it came out quite beautiful...
Joe
Scot did a bang up job on this cue. You can see he wet sanded the back end, wow what a difference. He made a new shaft using the old parts and he filled in the missing piece of point, and restored the point tips very nicely. Normally I wouldn't have had any finish added, but you need to keep these things as stable as possible.. it came out quite beautiful...
Joe
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Truly a unique Palmer, very nice.
Looks awesome, mint! :smile:
I was always under the impression that WICO points were made by the Wiman Company that started in Saulk, MN in 1962. They are still in business and are one of the largest producers of PVC, both flexible and rigid, in the US.
The piece that shows under the cracked off point has either been molded or machined, as the extrusion process can't make a shape like that. The extrusion process is basically where a hopper full of melted plastic is pushed through an aperture cut in a flat plate (kind of like the old Play Dough sets where you changed flat plastic plates in front of a "press" to squeeze out various profiles and shapes). The process is continuous and can't be stopped and started to make points and parts that aren't uniform in size (see simplified sketch).
I don't think that vinyl would make the best veneers. They are hard to glue and usually require etching, like your PVC pipes would. They would be very good for temperature shifts and might offer an "expansion joint" for lack of a better descriptive term. I think that they were just a subtitute for ivory until more suitable materials came along...
Cool cue, Joe!
Steve
The piece that shows under the cracked off point has either been molded or machined, as the extrusion process can't make a shape like that. The extrusion process is basically where a hopper full of melted plastic is pushed through an aperture cut in a flat plate (kind of like the old Play Dough sets where you changed flat plastic plates in front of a "press" to squeeze out various profiles and shapes). The process is continuous and can't be stopped and started to make points and parts that aren't uniform in size (see simplified sketch).
I don't think that vinyl would make the best veneers. They are hard to glue and usually require etching, like your PVC pipes would. They would be very good for temperature shifts and might offer an "expansion joint" for lack of a better descriptive term. I think that they were just a subtitute for ivory until more suitable materials came along...
Cool cue, Joe!
Steve
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Wow, Joe....that turned out very nice !!
Steve,
Thanks for the comments.
I will say this, let me revise your tech talk. Plastics are hardly ram extruded. The extrusion process used to manufacture plastics is called continuous screw extrusion. The plastic pellets are in a hopper above the feed throat of the extruder. The extrusion screw turns at roughly 75-150 RPM. The feed screw has three sections, a feed section a transition section and a metering section. As the pellets are fed through the screw they start to melt due to shear and the added heat of heaters along the extrusion barrel. By the time they get to the end of the extruder they are at a very high pressure, 6500-10000 PSI. They are then fed through the die, in this case, a good die good produces a very accurate profile. Profile extrusion is very common, from small pieces to very large pieces like replacement window frames. V or L shapes are done routinely and the dies are not very complex. the take off equipment, the cooling tank, puller and cutter are a different story.
I am the most talented extrusion designer that is not employed in the plastics industry at the moment.
JV
some pvc extrusions
and an extrusion line
http://www.plasticextrudermachinery.com/image/ss1.jpg
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