I like this shot; is there a severe penalty for 'x' number of consecutive fouls like in straight pool ?
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I like this shot; is there a severe penalty for 'x' number of consecutive fouls like in straight pool ?
That is the EXACT shot I was going to post before I saw your post.
EDIT: Wow....now that I've read the whole thread...seems like a lot of other posters agreed on this shot as well. I wish I could regularly break like that in a 1-pocket match.
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A half-ball hit on the three (or that might be the 5; whatever's just north of the 4) should drive the 10 to the rail and leave the CB in the vicinity of the 4 where he can't see the ball in front of his pocket. It doesn't get you out of a good break, but it's a start.
I haven't read the other responses yet. I will now, and see how wrong I am.
I haven't read the other responses yet. I will now, and see how wrong I am.
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This is clearly the best post of the thread!
Seriously, in the second picture, the shot looks pretty makeable. There was a 1p.org thread on a similar situation and the very knowledgeable gang there was in favor of this type of carom shot, and argued that it comes up enough that it should be practiced. I made a careful mental note of that and now I've finally gotten to use it, if only vicariously.
The headrail foul is ok, but if you leave a small gap off the rails, there are returns that could really increase the pain. E.g., (1) shoot the the 13-9, bring the cue between the 6 and 15, and run out; (2) shoot the 11-9 or 11-14-9, depending on the angle, and bring the cue to the other side of the stack.
Shoot the 3 into the 10 and park the cueball between the 4 and 7 without disturbing them. The 3 will go off the end rail and land by the 13, The 10 will cross over to your side rail. Unless he finds a trick shot you'll have more options on your next shot.
I agree. If I broke like that and my opponent took the foul, I would be in a happy place. Taking the foul is about as good as conceding.
Carom the 5 ball in or kick at the 9, I say. Anyone who says that's stupid can give me some weight :thumbup:
This is a good question, but more info is needed: How tight are the pockets? How good is your opponent? Is he/she a run out player or 3 and done? Is 3 foul a loss of game? Is the bet high enough to make your opponents butt pucker???
I think a foul is the best shot...but there are many ways to foul here. I need a little more information.
I think a foul is the best shot...but there are many ways to foul here. I need a little more information.
I have a name for many of those deliberate fouls...
" Don't take my watch now...take it later."
Sometimes, when you're a big underdog, you gotta play the joker.
..and if it works, it's a knee trembler..may win you the next game also.
Take a foul and roll up to the top left corner.
I did recommend a sort of calibrated ramshot :thumbup:
Guy ran 8/out from where I left him!
You must be mad at your money then, it appears scott frost would likely take the foul and I doubt you want any of that.
Taking a foul after the break is an oft used reply. Think about it, is it better to give 9-8 and have him shooting from the far splinterboard, or to give him a shot at his hole and the take what's left when he finishes his turn?
If he lags it back to the same spot you take a foul again. Then he is going to lag back again probably. Now he will need 10 to beat you after you try to actually get out of the trap and try something like the carom. If he makes a mistake like rolling the cue ball 6 inches too far, you have a shot to combo bank to your side and stick the cue ball on the stack...
If you are going to eventually go for the carom anyway, wouldn't it be better to take it earlier so that in the event that it goes in, you only have to run out 7 more as opposed to 9 more with a ton of balls on your opponent's side?
If you miss the carom needing 8 or 10, you sold out anyways and shouldn't expect your opponent to give you any decent chances from there.
I feel like you win a lot more games if you sell out and the opponent needs 10 balls instead of 8. If they run 5, they still need 5 instead of 3. I would be looking for a better spot to shoot from than that though. Your opponent is not going to be able to put you in exactly that same spot. Eventually you will be left in an easier spot. Only shoot that carom if you are already on two fouls, or if you don't have a safe spot to take a foul at.