1st time that ever happened

[lorider]

last night in my double jeapordy league i face a 6 playing 9 ball " i am a 5 ".

we get down to both of us needing only 2 balls with me breaking. well dumbass me decides i am gonna try to win it on the break . i was worried that if i made a ball on the break i might leave myself hooked like i am prone to do.

well i rear back and smacks the shit out of the rack , lo and behold 4 balls fell i won !!!!

wait ... no i did not win i scratched and he gets ball in hand and runs his 2 to win. no big deal you say ? it happens to every body all the time right ?

yea i have scratched a shit load of times in my life , but not lately because i have been working on my break and have never scratched like this time.

yea i have done the cue ball making a bee line for a pocket, other balls knocking the cue ball in, hell i have even had the cue ball leave the table buncha times but i have never scratched like this.

when the cue ball smacked the rack it hopped up in the air about 2 feet , took a left and nose dived right into the center of the side pocket. that ball did not touch nothing on its way right into the center of the pocket. DAMN !!! . i aint never trying that again, i am going back to my normal 80% power break.

the night was not a total bummer. i faced the same player in my 8 ball match and won 4-0.

 

[hang-the-9]

last night in my double jeapordy league i face a 6 playing 9 ball " i am a 5 ".

we get down to both of us needing only 2 balls with me breaking. well dumbass me decides i am gonna try to win it on the break . i was worried that if i made a ball on the break i might leave myself hooked like i am prone to do.

well i rear back and smacks the shit out of the rack , lo and behold 4 balls fell i won !!!!

wait ... no i did not win i scratched and he gets ball in hand and runs his 2 to win. no big deal you say ? it happens to every body all the time right ?

yea i have scratched a shit load of times in my life , but not lately because i have been working on my break and have never scratched like this time.

yea i have done the cue ball making a bee line for a pocket, other balls knocking the cue ball in, hell i have even had the cue ball leave the table buncha times but i have never scratched like this.

when the cue ball smacked the rack it hopped up in the air about 2 feet , took a left and nose dived right into the center of the side pocket. that ball did not touch nothing on its way right into the center of the pocket. DAMN !!! . i aint never trying that again, i am going back to my normal 80% power break.

the night was not a total bummer. i faced the same player in my 8 ball match and won 4-0.

This is why I like the USAPL league rules on a hill hill match. If you both are on the hill, you can't win just on points, whoever wins the rack wins. Just like real pool hehe. In my league, the guy would have had to run out the rest of the rack with ball in hand not just make 2 easy shots.

 

[Ken_4fun]

The reason I quit APA 9 ball was because of this stupid rule.

I was rated pretty high, and they always would throw a low handicap against me.

The rule I hated was no push out after the break. Sometime you would break and make a ball but had no shot on the one, you are screwed.

Ken

 

[lorider]

The reason I quit APA 9 ball was because of this stupid rule.

I was rated pretty high, and they always would throw a low handicap against me.

The rule I hated was no push out after the break. Sometime you would break and make a ball but had no shot on the one, you are screwed.

Ken

i understand your view point and a lot of guys seem to agree with you on this. however i kinda like apa rules as i find them more challenging than bcapl or other so called more serious shooters leagues. ya'll seem to think apa rules penalize better players and in essence i agree with all of you.

here is why i like apa rules.

it is more challenging and thus more rewarding to get a break and run in a closed break vs open break format. i avg a b& r about every 30 racks in apa. i avg almost a b&r every night playing my bcapl format.

in bcapl format when my opponent scratches on the break my chances of a run out are pretty good. in apa you have to start behind the line and diminishes your odds. again its more rewarding to accomplish it when its a lil harder.

the same with slop. it used to piss me off to see a player resort to slop to beat me. i find it rewarding that i can beat another player my level that had to resort to slop. its kinda like out running the nuts so to speak.

 

[Charlie Hustle]

Why is it that every time there is a thread titled "first time this ever happened" or "your wont believe what happened last night" it is almost, without a doubt about league play?

 

[justadub]

Why is it that every time there is a thread titled "first time this ever happened" or "your wont believe what happened last night" it is almost, without a doubt about league play?

Perhaps league players are excited about what they are doing, and enjoying the experience? And like to talk with other, like minded folks about it?

Just a hunch.

 

[Charlie Hustle]

Perhaps league players are excited about what they are doing, and enjoying the experience? And like to talk with other, like minded folks about it?

Just a hunch.

Maybe so, Im just always disappointed when its another league thread. Id much rather read about a money match or an unknown road man taking down the rail etc

 

[justadub]

Maybe so, Im just always disappointed when its another league thread. Id much rather read about a money match or an unknown road man taking down the rail etc

Well, in this particular instance, its pretty well known to anyone who visits here much at all that lorider is a league player, and likes to talk about league stuff, so this particular one shouldn't have taken you by surprise.

As for the lack of stuff you want to read about, I'm not sure. Do gamblers talk about their matches all that much, in general? Much less on a public forum?

 

[Tony_in_MD]

True.

Well, in this particular instance, its pretty well known to anyone who visits here much at all that lorider is a league player, and likes to talk about league stuff, so this particular one shouldn't have taken you by surprise.

As for the lack of stuff you want to read about, I'm not sure. Do gamblers talk about their matches all that much, in general? Much less on a public forum?

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[3andstop]

last night in my double jeapordy league i face a 6 playing 9 ball " i am a 5 ".

we get down to both of us needing only 2 balls with me breaking. well dumbass me decides i am gonna try to win it on the break . i was worried that if i made a ball on the break i might leave myself hooked like i am prone to do.

well i rear back and smacks the shit out of the rack , lo and behold 4 balls fell i won !!!!

wait ... no i did not win i scratched and he gets ball in hand and runs his 2 to win. no big deal you say ? it happens to every body all the time right ?

yea i have scratched a shit load of times in my life , but not lately because i have been working on my break and have never scratched like this time.

yea i have done the cue ball making a bee line for a pocket, other balls knocking the cue ball in, hell i have even had the cue ball leave the table buncha times but i have never scratched like this.

when the cue ball smacked the rack it hopped up in the air about 2 feet , took a left and nose dived right into the center of the side pocket. that ball did not touch nothing on its way right into the center of the pocket. DAMN !!! . i aint never trying that again, i am going back to my normal 80% power break.

the night was not a total bummer. i faced the same player in my 8 ball match and won 4-0.

Congrats! 8 ball more closely resembles real pool anyway. :thumbup:

 

[cardiac kid]

Perhaps league players are excited about what they are doing, and enjoying the experience? And like to talk with other, like minded folks about it?

Just a hunch.

Are you kidding me? Pool players having fun? It's un-American. Us amateur league players should be taken out and shot!!!! As I've said before on this forum, "bartender, one 20 ounce'r and an order of hot wings please". Pool can be both serious and fun. It's all in what YOU make of it!

Lyn

 

[Charlie Hustle]

Well, in this particular instance, its pretty well known to anyone who visits here much at all that lorider is a league player, and likes to talk about league stuff, so this particular one shouldn't have taken you by surprise.

As for the lack of stuff you want to read about, I'm not sure. Do gamblers talk about their matches all that much, in general? Much less on a public forum?

Sorry I wasn't familiar with Mr. lorider, I had no idea he was league player extrodinare. And yes, a lot of the gambling matches get attention on this public forum, just scroll on down to the Action Room. Have a nice day sir.

 

[CreeDo]

Feel your pain lorider, I've seen it happen a couple of times. Sometimes I think it's the worst thing you can do,
to tell someone they need like 2-3 balls when they're breaking. I had the reverse happen last week sort of.
I was told I needed all 10 so I just went for a very controlled break and either he slugged me or I took 50% off.
The balls barely opened. But then the 1 got a miracle slow rolling kiss into the side and the 2-3 were hanging.

Anyway, I do hate the lack of push out and feel it often punishes the breaker and adds some randomness.
I get why they do it but a LOT of games (and maybe entire matches) are decided by random break outcomes.
Especially given that it's opponent rack and making a ball is a little more of a coin flip.

 

[TheNewSharkster]

The reason I quit APA 9 ball was because of this stupid rule.

I was rated pretty high, and they always would throw a low handicap against me.

The rule I hated was no push out after the break. Sometime you would break and make a ball but had no shot on the one, you are screwed.

Ken

I completely agree with this. Couple matches ago I played against a guy who won the lag by a hair. Breaks and fails to make a ball. Hooks the cue ball leaving me no shot. He gets BIH and runs 7 balls and plays safe. I make a good hit but he gets out. Second game he breaks and doesn't make a ball. Guess what? He hooks me again... get BIH and runs the rack. I was down 20-0 because of two shitty breaks.

I do enjoy APA 9ball for the most part but for the love of god give us the push out!!!

 

[frankncali]

Why is it that every time there is a thread titled "first time this ever happened" or "your wont believe what happened last night" it is almost, without a doubt about league play?

Because in actuality League Play is here and is strong.. Its played every night across the country and shockingly to some...people enjoy it.

If pool companies relied only on Pro Pool and casual players there would be zero pool businesses. The Color Of Money boom days are long long long gone.

Lots of league players on here... not for everyone but at least people are playing pool.

 

[justadub]

Sorry I wasn't familiar with Mr. lorider, I had no idea he was league player extrodinare. And yes, a lot of the gambling matches get attention on this public forum, just scroll on down to the Action Room. Have a nice day sir.

I get the sense that I offended you, which wasn't my intent.

I've seen you post here plenty over the years, so I found it surprising that you hadn't encountered loriders posts before.

I dont peruse the Action Room all that often, as I'm not a gambler. Which is probably pretty obvious.

League experiences are talked about often in the Main Forum. There are a few hundred thousand league players in the US alone, so its not surprising that it gets talked about here.

 

[Charlie Hustle]

I get the sense that I offended you, which wasn't my intent.

I've seen you post here plenty over the years, so I found it surprising that you hadn't encountered loriders posts before.

I dont peruse the Action Room all that often, as I'm not a gambler. Which is probably pretty obvious.

League experiences are talked about often in the Main Forum. There are a few hundred thousand league players in the US alone, so its not surprising that it gets talked about here.

No offense taken. Just expecting and hoping to read something exciting, other than the "whats the best tip" thread or the "guess what happened last night" obviously referring to league play.

 

[KMRUNOUT]

The reason I quit APA 9 ball was because of this stupid rule.

I was rated pretty high, and they always would throw a low handicap against me.

The rule I hated was no push out after the break. Sometime you would break and make a ball but had no shot on the one, you are screwed.

Ken

Yes, this format emphasizes cue ball control on the break. You need to know how to play position on the 1 ball. Remember that the majority of the APA is like 4 handicap players. The no push out rule protects that majority. A and Open level players playing as 9's would have way too much advantage with the push out. The handicap system wouldn't work for this. I looked at the whole situation differently. For me, APA 9 ball way one of the biggest benefits to my break and cue ball control. Scratching is the kiss of death in this format when I have to play someone 75-25 for example.

Also, I don't particularly see any benefit of the USAPL format in having to run out the last rack. Bottom line is the match comes down to the game ball. Does it matter much if its the 9? Look at straight pool. If the race is to 150 and its 145-145, when one guy runs 5 balls he doesn't have to continue to run the rest to win. APA 9 ball is NOT tournament 9 ball. It is a different game. If you are wanting it to be something else, disappointment is sure to follow. I like the format a lot actually. Play it for what it is, not what it isn't.

KMRUNOUT

 

[KMRUNOUT]

i understand your view point and a lot of guys seem to agree with you on this. however i kinda like apa rules as i find them more challenging than bcapl or other so called more serious shooters leagues. ya'll seem to think apa rules penalize better players and in essence i agree with all of you.

here is why i like apa rules.

it is more challenging and thus more rewarding to get a break and run in a closed break vs open break format. i avg a b& r about every 30 racks in apa. i avg almost a b&r every night playing my bcapl format.

in bcapl format when my opponent scratches on the break my chances of a run out are pretty good. in apa you have to start behind the line and diminishes your odds. again its more rewarding to accomplish it when its a lil harder.

the same with slop. it used to piss me off to see a player resort to slop to beat me. i find it rewarding that i can beat another player my level that had to resort to slop. its kinda like out running the nuts so to speak.

I *really* like your attitude here. I see things the same way. This is the perfect attitude to have to enjoy APA as a strong player. One thing though...in APA 9 ball a scratch on the break is followed by ball in hand anywhere on the table--thus why it is so bad to scratch against a lower player. I don't play APA 9 ball this session but my job used to be to get the big win...18-2 or something. The only way I could do that is if my break was working and I could put some packages together. But *that* is actually easier to do with a very good controlled break...

Anyway, great post!

KMRUNOUT

 

[KMRUNOUT]

Perhaps league players are excited about what they are doing, and enjoying the experience? And like to talk with other, like minded folks about it?

Just a hunch.

Sorry I couldn't rep you for this. I have to spread it around I guess lol. Good post though!

KMRUNOUT