No question. The Russians would also be a concern. World class can be fraught with peril. Still, the rich get richer...
2024 World Pool Championship
- Thread starter jay helfert
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You can bring in a million dollars if you want.
You just need to declare it.
I was told that by customs at LAX.
You are not prevented in bringing in over 10K.
Also explain it if somebody asks.
Not surprisingly, snooker. Here is the prize breakdown of the 2024 World Snooker Championship:
- Winner: £500,000
- Runner-up: £200,000
- Semi-finalists: £100,000
- Quarter-finalists: £50,000
- Last 16: £30,000
- Last 32: £20,000
When I see a local tournament with $1000/$400 breakdown, I think I know what's going to happen, unless both finalists are gamblers and they both like their chances.
Flakeandrun
Well-known member
How is splitting like this viewed in general in the US? Are there rules forbidding it? I don't think it would fly here. Though I have not read any rule or direction that says this can't or shouldn't be done. I think suggesting it to the opponent would draw a very strong negative reaction here though. Even if it meant more cash in their pocket.
I'm going to ask my friend who is TD of some bigger tournaments here what he thinks about it.
Thanks for this info, Bob. Still, Matchroom pool events have never had this prize structure before and if this is what the future holds in pool, I'm not thrilled with it. Then again, the continuous tightening of the equipment has caused more than a few of us to speculate that Matchroom is trying to make pool more like snooker.
In Finland it is common to have 10$ mini shootout in weekend Open handicapped tournament Saturday evening after main tourney playing is is done.
Race to 1. Single elimination Winner takes all.
When there is 4 players left there is auction for 4 spots vs those 4 that are still in. After auction money from auction goes into pot and it is common to have 1K or more.
There is savers happening almost always and it is ok because it is not official tournament. Makkonen not doing any(anymore). He told he loses money if he do it because his winrate is so high
I´ve won many too and have funny stories involved. One was where there was way over 1K pot and i got into final by playing. My opponent was auctioned in by 4 people coalition and they come tell me we gonna split final. I was no we won´t.
I am big favorite and we can put 900 to winner and losers get 400. They did not accept because in they told they get too little for 5 guys. I just then told "flip it" and won coin toss and ran out
Should take that 400 haha
Race to 1. Single elimination Winner takes all.
When there is 4 players left there is auction for 4 spots vs those 4 that are still in. After auction money from auction goes into pot and it is common to have 1K or more.
There is savers happening almost always and it is ok because it is not official tournament. Makkonen not doing any(anymore). He told he loses money if he do it because his winrate is so high
I´ve won many too and have funny stories involved. One was where there was way over 1K pot and i got into final by playing. My opponent was auctioned in by 4 people coalition and they come tell me we gonna split final. I was no we won´t.
I am big favorite and we can put 900 to winner and losers get 400. They did not accept because in they told they get too little for 5 guys. I just then told "flip it" and won coin toss and ran out
Should take that 400 haha
TD's don't always hate it, if it's getting late and it speeds up proceedings..
Flakeandrun
Well-known member
He said for the smaller monthly events (Where the pay out is usually 2k USD for 1st, 1K 2nd, 500 3/4, then split further into top 16), he said he wouldn't mind, but mentioned culturally it's not seen positively to do that and he's never been asked about it. He said he has hosted in other countries where this has been accepted.
Here, I get the vibe that the player would have more of a problem with it. Asking someone to do that would call into question integrity, ability etc etc. Probably create a very bad atmosphere based on what he has told me.
For the bigger open events (usually between 64 - 128 fielded), he said it's an absolute and resounding 'NO' - and he said he'd go as far as to ban future participation of players doing this. He does host some events with pretty decent payouts (Talking 10k USD for 1st), and these I assume are partly funded by sponsors he needs to keep happy. He is also organizing some MR related things in the not too distant future, and I guess as an organization they frown pretty hard on this kind of thing.
That’s what az does and is one of the many reasons pro players don’t come here any longer
Being the winner of the World Pool Championship is only worth a damn to pool players/fans. MR already has that fan base. What they're trying to attract is new viewership. Willing to bet the vast majority of "new viewers" of the finals are sweating the swing in prize money, not the trophy/title. "The $150k scratch"... Not the "Scratch that cost Kaci the title". The ownership of the title hasn't driven the growth of the game at all in the passed. Not sure why we believe it matters now.
As I said earlier. A "saver" as it's being called, undermines the purpose of the notably larger 1st place prize.
Match fixing is a whole other problem and has implications beyond those only belonging to the finalists. So yes, a different story.
Oh I don't believe it happened for a moment. Just an interesting conversation. Pool player logic always entertains me.
I was under the impression some were flamed off or at least hassled till they bailed.
The biggest tournament in bass fishing, Redcrest Championship, pays $300k to the winner and second place gets only $50k.
A couple of years ago someone was leading and another angler caught a 2 lb fish in the last two minutes of the event to beat him and drop him down over a quarter million bucks.
A couple of years ago someone was leading and another angler caught a 2 lb fish in the last two minutes of the event to beat him and drop him down over a quarter million bucks.
Yeah that was also a lot of it. Guys trying to give you some of the things that helped get them to where they are and the basement know it all champions giving them shit until they all said f it. It’s not worth it.
That's assuming that such details regarding "savers" or "chopping" are made public. It's entirely obvious that any such deals, if they exist, should remain completely confidential.
No one was flamed off.
Numerous pro players have graced us from time to time but most could not appreciate it when it was pointed out to them that not everything they said was true or that every word they spoke was gospel. There are some very smart cookies here with a wealth of knowledge from various experiences and educational backgrounds that make their opinion just as valid as a professional pool player’s.
Some guys, pros and otherwise, don’t like that and leave.
Lou Figueroa
That's too bad. So much to learn from good players. I gleaned what I could by watching 'em. That's probably part of what was wrong here too. Players - playing is their domain. AZB is something else unto itself.
Scrunge19
Registered
I hope Matchroom continues to work on developing their ranking system because the world championship prize pool carries far too much weight as currently configured. Having one event with such an abnormal prize for first place narrows the world number 1 race down to two people: the current champ and next year’s. Not to mention the fact that it all but guarantees the winner a spot on the mosconi/reyes cup teams.