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Black Balled said this just a few posts ago, but the point of a 1x2 is to have a second shaft in case your tip pops off in the middle of a match. I don't think the old schoolers were so worried about gear as we tend to be today, it was entirely a utilitarian purpose.
I've made two big changes to my pool playing from years ago. I now carry a cheap 1x2 case and I never invest big in a fancy butt which does not help you play better but cost lots of money. I play with a McDermott Sneaky Pete with G core shaft and I shaft, leather wrap. Very good playing cue and it has a life time garentee against warpage. I break with my playing cue but not hard. Shoot well my friends.
If I am just going to the pool hall to get some table time in I could easily get away with a 1x2. However when I go play in a tournament or something I need to have all my tools available to me.
Depending on where I'm going I sometimes only have a 1x1 soft case and my Keith true sneaky...
But normally I have a big heavy JB 2x3 without pockets.
I'm going to get a 3x6 rugged JB soon. I just like options...
I'm not a jump cue advocate, so scratch that pocket off. Just 3x6 with a compartment for chalk somewhere or I can just carry it...
The most enjoyable times are when I'm just bringing my sneaky along in a 1x1 though. I don't worry about anything... Its so much simpler.
But normally I have a big heavy JB 2x3 without pockets.
I'm going to get a 3x6 rugged JB soon. I just like options...
I'm not a jump cue advocate, so scratch that pocket off. Just 3x6 with a compartment for chalk somewhere or I can just carry it...
The most enjoyable times are when I'm just bringing my sneaky along in a 1x1 though. I don't worry about anything... Its so much simpler.
i used a 1 by 2 case for years. just broke off the wall. but my jump cue but in the pouch and the jump cue shaft in the extra shaft slot.
then i got on my fancy cue kick and bought a bigger case and way too many cues. now i use a leather soft case because it's way more comfortable and if i need to i can put more cues in it.
if you're not a cue snob you can definitely get by with a 1 butt 2 shaft case no problem
then i got on my fancy cue kick and bought a bigger case and way too many cues. now i use a leather soft case because it's way more comfortable and if i need to i can put more cues in it.
if you're not a cue snob you can definitely get by with a 1 butt 2 shaft case no problem
Years ago, there were two rationales for carrying a second shaft, both of which have been mentioned. If both shafts were identical in weight and taper, a player would alternate shaft use between sessions so they were always nearly identical for tip wear and shaft condition. That was insurance against losing a tip during a tournament. If a tip is lost, there would be very little adjustment required for the other shaft in the case. I have never lost a tip during play, but IIRC, there was an old AccuStats video where it happened to Buddy Hall.
The other reason was for players who wanted different shafts for 9-ball and for 14.1. Pllayers would have shafts with different weights, tapers, etc., for the different games. Barry Szamboti and Bill Schick both told me it was fairly common.
Ralph Eckert has an interesting set-up that allows using a 1x2. He uses quick release joints and his cue butt can be broken down as a jumper. One shaft is for play, the others is for jump/break. A 1x2 is all he needs for his equipment. He can change shafts without interrupting play. German engineering.
The other reason was for players who wanted different shafts for 9-ball and for 14.1. Pllayers would have shafts with different weights, tapers, etc., for the different games. Barry Szamboti and Bill Schick both told me it was fairly common.
Ralph Eckert has an interesting set-up that allows using a 1x2. He uses quick release joints and his cue butt can be broken down as a jumper. One shaft is for play, the others is for jump/break. A 1x2 is all he needs for his equipment. He can change shafts without interrupting play. German engineering.
Years ago, there were two rationales for carrying a second shaft, both of which have been mentioned. If both shafts were identical in weight and taper, a player would alternate shaft use between sessions so they were always nearly identical for tip wear and shaft condition. That was insurance against losing a tip during a tournament. If a tip is lost, there would be very little adjustment required for the other shaft in the case. I have never lost a tip during play, but IIRC, there was an old AccuStats video where it happened to Buddy Hall.
The other reason was for players who wanted different shafts for 9-ball and for 14.1. Pllayers would have shafts with different weights, tapers, etc., for the different games. Barry Szamboti and Bill Schick both told me it was fairly common.
Ralph Eckert has an interesting set-up that allows using a 1x2. He uses quick release joints and his cue butt can be broken down as a jumper. One shaft is for play, the others is for jump/break. A 1x2 is all he needs for his equipment. He can change shafts without interrupting play. German engineering.
One time in band camp.....
Actually one time at breakfast with Bill Schick he told me that all the players today are carrying their cues the wrong way. He said that back in the 60s players always carried their cues tips up so that they could see immediately what shaft they wanted to use.
I break with a Gus Szamboti.
Maybe the most expensive break cue on the planet.
At one pool hall I used to play at whenever the owner saw a break cue...he mumbled.."League player"
Cracked me up every time.
Ken
I know all you guys like those expensive cases, but for me it's completely a non-issue. The Lucasi cases sold on ebay 2x4 or even the 4x8 are under 70 bucks shipped, and provide IMO better easier storage with more than ample pouches. Especially the brown ones.
On a side note, the correct break can be done with your playing cue. One corner ball from the last row goes to the long rail and back, while the other goes to the short rail and back while the CB goes 4 rails gently resting on the head rail. :thumbup:
On a side note, the correct break can be done with your playing cue. One corner ball from the last row goes to the long rail and back, while the other goes to the short rail and back while the CB goes 4 rails gently resting on the head rail. :thumbup:
Well, I'm a league player, so automatically I'm in the lower class....
I like using my break cue. It has a different feel than my playing cue. I get better action with less force. It also serves as my jump cue, which means it doesn't get used much for that purpose. (Gotta use a full sized cue to jump in our league. I'm working on it!)
That's two spots.
I bought a 4x4, because I wanted to carry three cues. One of the places where I play the dreaded league has 17 tables, and 3 bridges in the whole place. And these are 9-foot tables. (It's a family entertainment complex, and the bridge heads just keep getting stolen. No, its not a serious pool hall.) So I like to use an old cheapy cue set up with a moosehead, for everyone playing in our matches. Yes, we could use a house cue, but then it looks like all the others, and folks feel entitled to come and grab it, as they should, if it were a house bridge. My cheapy cue is all black, so it definitely isn't house equipment. (I don't mind sharing with those nearby, either. I just like to have something available for the people playing in my matches, without spending 10 minutes trying to track one down.)
I don't have anything in the 4th spot. I eventually will get another cue, I suppose, and it will be nice to have a spare in case a tip pops off or something, I suppose. I'm not in any urgency to fill that space. The larger pockets are nice, since I do carry a different pair of glasses that I use while shooting. (Damned bifocals!)
I liked the 4x4 better than a 3x6, it just seemed more versatile for me. It doesn't seem to be that much larger than everyone else's tube cases, and it doesn't feel terribly heavy to me. The whole argument seems lost on me as a result. But, hey, I'm just a league player.
I like using my break cue. It has a different feel than my playing cue. I get better action with less force. It also serves as my jump cue, which means it doesn't get used much for that purpose. (Gotta use a full sized cue to jump in our league. I'm working on it!)
That's two spots.
I bought a 4x4, because I wanted to carry three cues. One of the places where I play the dreaded league has 17 tables, and 3 bridges in the whole place. And these are 9-foot tables. (It's a family entertainment complex, and the bridge heads just keep getting stolen. No, its not a serious pool hall.) So I like to use an old cheapy cue set up with a moosehead, for everyone playing in our matches. Yes, we could use a house cue, but then it looks like all the others, and folks feel entitled to come and grab it, as they should, if it were a house bridge. My cheapy cue is all black, so it definitely isn't house equipment. (I don't mind sharing with those nearby, either. I just like to have something available for the people playing in my matches, without spending 10 minutes trying to track one down.)
I don't have anything in the 4th spot. I eventually will get another cue, I suppose, and it will be nice to have a spare in case a tip pops off or something, I suppose. I'm not in any urgency to fill that space. The larger pockets are nice, since I do carry a different pair of glasses that I use while shooting. (Damned bifocals!)
I liked the 4x4 better than a 3x6, it just seemed more versatile for me. It doesn't seem to be that much larger than everyone else's tube cases, and it doesn't feel terribly heavy to me. The whole argument seems lost on me as a result. But, hey, I'm just a league player.
I break with my player in 8-Ball (a good 15 mph shot into the 2nd ball) & one-pocket, but I like my break cue for 9 ball.
I'm sure there are as many styles & situations as there are members on this forum, but I like my break cue. I also like my 2 x 4 case, it carries a play cue, a break cue & a jump cue.
I'm sure there are as many styles & situations as there are members on this forum, but I like my break cue. I also like my 2 x 4 case, it carries a play cue, a break cue & a jump cue.
Well, I'm a league player, so automatically I'm in the lower class....
I like using my break cue. It has a different feel than my playing cue. I get better action with less force. It also serves as my jump cue, which means it doesn't get used much for that purpose. (Gotta use a full sized cue to jump in our league. I'm working on it!)
That's two spots.
I bought a 4x4, because I wanted to carry three cues. One of the places where I play the dreaded league has 17 tables, and 3 bridges in the whole place. And these are 9-foot tables. (It's a family entertainment complex, and the bridge heads just keep getting stolen. No, its not a serious pool hall.) So I like to use an old cheapy cue set up with a moosehead, for everyone playing in our matches. Yes, we could use a house cue, but then it looks like all the others, and folks feel entitled to come and grab it, as they should, if it were a house bridge. My cheapy cue is all black, so it definitely isn't house equipment. (I don't mind sharing with those nearby, either. I just like to have something available for the people playing in my matches, without spending 10 minutes trying to track one down.)
I don't have anything in the 4th spot. I eventually will get another cue, I suppose, and it will be nice to have a spare in case a tip pops off or something, I suppose. I'm not in any urgency to fill that space. The larger pockets are nice, since I do carry a different pair of glasses that I use while shooting. (Damned bifocals!)
I liked the 4x4 better than a 3x6, it just seemed more versatile for me. It doesn't seem to be that much larger than everyone else's tube cases, and it doesn't feel terribly heavy to me. The whole argument seems lost on me as a result. But, hey, I'm just a league player.
Figures...
Ken
Figures...
Ken
Yes, it does.
I play league, I have fun. I'm not ashamed of it, either. Despite how some folks here would try and me feel about it.
How's the view up in your ivory tower?
I do it all the time still. Player, 2 shafts w/ the jump handle in the pocket.
dom_poppa
Banned
I carry a 1x1 too because I think that's adequate enough. I get my cues ready at home before I leave the house. I come prepared adequately. I don't need to carry all that crap.
There's a mystery to those with a 1x1 case what that case contains. You know you have a special cue when that cue has it's own case.
Unfortunately, there are not many great custom cases in the form of 1x1 or 1x2.
There's a mystery to those with a 1x1 case what that case contains. You know you have a special cue when that cue has it's own case.
Unfortunately, there are not many great custom cases in the form of 1x1 or 1x2.