8 players at Grady's event??
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I think that Grady also let's his personal feelings cloud what is going on. Shannon could put on a free entry fee tournament, $20,000 added & Grady would find something wrong with it. Obviously he doesn't like Shannon - one of the funiiest things I have ever seen was Shannon calling Grady out early one morning at the DCC. A DVD of that could sell for $19.95. I get the feeling they have a long history.
I'm done here
We did add $500, despite only having 8 players. Mike, why would you bring up Joe Kerr? He screwed me but I never told anyone about that.
If you're not trying to have a monopoly, call me and give two dates next fall where you're not having tournaments so I can have some events without your interference.
Now, as far as Shannon goes, it's about time that he understands that
there are consequences for bad behavior. Everything I said about him is true and I would gladly say it to his face.
The Viking tournament we had at our place we lost $250 on it. I did shake Mike's hand and tell him good job but I was only being nice. We had to gross twice as much as normal to break even and he sets out tables of products of the same sort we sell. It's just a bad deal for room owners. He's just like the old Texas Express outfit only worse. He's relentless.
As far as added money goes, I've had 21 tournaments with $20,000 or more added. I'm just getting started here and I plan some big things later on. I just cannot add that kind of money to start with.
We did add $500, despite only having 8 players. Mike, why would you bring up Joe Kerr? He screwed me but I never told anyone about that.
If you're not trying to have a monopoly, call me and give two dates next fall where you're not having tournaments so I can have some events without your interference.
Now, as far as Shannon goes, it's about time that he understands that
there are consequences for bad behavior. Everything I said about him is true and I would gladly say it to his face.
The Viking tournament we had at our place we lost $250 on it. I did shake Mike's hand and tell him good job but I was only being nice. We had to gross twice as much as normal to break even and he sets out tables of products of the same sort we sell. It's just a bad deal for room owners. He's just like the old Texas Express outfit only worse. He's relentless.
As far as added money goes, I've had 21 tournaments with $20,000 or more added. I'm just getting started here and I plan some big things later on. I just cannot add that kind of money to start with.
Grady,
What kind of money does a room owner make with your events that are the same size as the Viking Tour events? You said you lost $250 with Mike's event, how much does a room owner stand to make with your event?
Also the Joe Kerr thing was most definitely pointed at Donny Mills since he said this--->
"Donny, I guess you had to understand the situation. You are a young Gun, does the name Joe Kerr mean anything to you ?"
What kind of money does a room owner make with your events that are the same size as the Viking Tour events? You said you lost $250 with Mike's event, how much does a room owner stand to make with your event?
Also the Joe Kerr thing was most definitely pointed at Donny Mills since he said this--->
"Donny, I guess you had to understand the situation. You are a young Gun, does the name Joe Kerr mean anything to you ?"
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Grady said:
lol, this may be the post of the year. Why would Mike not want to have the biggest and best tour? Or Shannon for that matter? I guess they should stop promoting their own tours and stop having so many events so you can have some without having to compete? Are you kidding me? Have you ever owned another business Grady? It would be nice to have an entity where there is no competition but this is America the last time I checked and there is gonna be competition in any business and that's good for everyone.
And honestly, I don't think you did a good enough job promoting your event. Your website says $10,000 payout guaranteed with 70 players, $125 entry fee. Quick, can anyone tell me how much added money that is? You have to promote the ADDED money to get the players to show up. If you would have stated $500 minimum added $$$. Full field will add $1250, you might have gotten more than 8 players.
I take it
that Grady's tournament was a 14.1 one. Lots of players don't know how to play 14.1, especially well enough to pony up $125 entry fee. I am not putting in that much money unless I feel sure I am in the top 3, and it depends what the tournament pays.
Not advertising $500 added is your fault Grady. Added money brings players in, plain and simple.
Do you serve food or liquor at your place Grady. Most of the times, money made off of tournaments is from food and liquor only, with the owner breaking even on the tournament expenses.
I have the upmost respect for what you have done for the sport Grady, but you sound like one bitter player who has become more trouble than your worth on most things.
that Grady's tournament was a 14.1 one. Lots of players don't know how to play 14.1, especially well enough to pony up $125 entry fee. I am not putting in that much money unless I feel sure I am in the top 3, and it depends what the tournament pays.
Not advertising $500 added is your fault Grady. Added money brings players in, plain and simple.
Do you serve food or liquor at your place Grady. Most of the times, money made off of tournaments is from food and liquor only, with the owner breaking even on the tournament expenses.
I have the upmost respect for what you have done for the sport Grady, but you sound like one bitter player who has become more trouble than your worth on most things.
Snapshot9 said:
Just wondering what "tournament expenses" a room owner has. Is he paying the tournament to come in? Is he paying someone to run the tournament? Perhaps referees? Is it potential foregone income from sales of table time? Is it the cost of electricity and overhead? Maybe there are promotional costs too, such as advertising, printing of fliers and so on.
If it's primarily overhead and table time, what would most room owners expect to take in without a tournament going on?
Flex
1on1pooltournys...and if there weren't the "childish amateur leagues" the pitiful fan base, for pro players, that exist now (BECAUSE of these leagues) would be completely nonexistant.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
1on1pooltournys said:
Scott Lee said:
I should retract my statement. There may be one league that is good for pool (BCA). The rest simply teach people how to dump and walk around with 1,000 dollar cue sticks and think they are players.
1on1pooltournys said:
$1000 cues? Does anyone even play with anything that cheap anymore?
bfdlad said:
Ditto, my JO cue was beat to hell when I got it, and it's still beat to hell. You should see the huge gouge in the forearm...
Getting back to the topic here, it's unfortunate that Grady's event was underattended, but there have been many valid points brought up to refute the results. Just bad timing, not enough advertising, and no money added.