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trob

AzB Silver Member
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Nobody gives importance to the size of the pockets, but what if one day another player of very high caliber like Filler would arrive with a run of 1100 balls done on a table with pockets of 5 5/8 inches and 139 degrees of opening, then the people would start to look at this closely, and the first would be Shaw and associates. But many big players are not interested in wasting their time and energy on this kind of thing.
Well maybe that’s the next step.. someone does it on smaller pockets 🤷‍♂️. how much time is he wasting on this type of thing? I don’t think he’s spending any time training preparing himself.
 

wrldpro

H.RUN 311/Diamond W.R.
Silver Member
Nobody gives importance to the size of the pockets, but what if one day another player of very high caliber like Filler would arrive with a run of 1100 balls done on a table with pockets of 5 5/8 inches and 139 degrees of opening, then the people would start to look at this closely, and the first would be Shaw and associates. But many big players are not interested in wasting their time and energy on this kind of thing.
Cmon Pal give it a rest. It's a gold crown just like most of us all grew up playing on. You are overly obsessed. If it's even possible you are making yourself look more stupid post after post. Speculation and ejaculation must be your daily or even hourly routine about Jaysons new World Record High run. 99% of people are happy then then a few people ask a few questions then you and you only are trying to direct or fabric thoughts of something that can not possibly be true. Sorry Pal standard specs 1963 gold crown 1.
 

Island Drive

Otto/Dads College Roommate/Cleveland Browns
Silver Member
Nobody gives importance to the size of the pockets, but what if one day another player of very high caliber like Filler would arrive with a run of 1100 balls done on a table with pockets of 5 5/8 inches and 139 degrees of opening, then the people would start to look at this closely, and the first would be Shaw and associates. But many big players are not interested in wasting their time and energy on this kind of thing.
Ok tell us more also.... I also heard they should make bowling balls much larger to create more 300 games.
 

fjk

AzB Silver Member
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Ok tell us more also.... I also heard they should make bowling balls much larger to create more 300 games.
Well, I can see valid arguments on both sides of the standardized pocket size debate. On one hand, it's just pool and tables vary by make, time period they are from, and between the mechanics that work on them. Naturally variation between the table, chalk, cues, lighting, balls and everything else is expected. That's all part of the game. Turning it into a science project to understand and control all those isn't needed (it's just a game).

On the other hand, I can see the problem with the next guy opening the pockets up a little (from whereever they were) to break the record. Where does that stop?

I'm not sure what the answer is but IMHO, unless someone intentionally creates an "easy / gaffe table", I don't see it as an issue.

Another point: creating an easy table is a double edged sword. It also created more scratches. My previous table (GC3) had buckets. Just shoot the ball in the general direction of a bucket was good enough. I didn't enjoy playing on it...plus I scratched a lot. Now I have a Diamond with tight pockets and deep shelves. It plays way too tough for my liking. At least all my runs don't end in a scratch anymore.
 

Bob Jewett

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His ability to nudge break balls into place and leave his cue ball so perfectly for such consistent breaking is what I am in awe of. ....
I have never seen anyone run balls with so many break ball adjustments. In some racks he moved the break ball three times. In his previous record run, he adjusted the break ball on about half the racks. (I haven't counted for the 832 yet.)
 

wrldpro

H.RUN 311/Diamond W.R.
Silver Member
I have never seen anyone run balls with so many break ball adjustments. In some racks he moved the break ball three times. In his previous record run, he adjusted the break ball on about half the racks. (I haven't counted for the 832 yet.)
Me too. Drives me crazy because growing up playing I was always told do not disturb a break ball once it’s in the area it should be along with the key ball. Jaysons style of play is just that his style. 1 of a kind.
 

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
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Cmon Pal give it a rest. It's a gold crown just like most of us all grew up playing on. You are overly obsessed. If it's even possible you are making yourself look more stupid post after post. Speculation and ejaculation must be your daily or even hourly routine about Jaysons new World Record High run. 99% of people are happy then then a few people ask a few questions then you and you only are trying to direct or fabric thoughts of something that can not possibly be true. Sorry Pal standard specs 1963 gold crown 1.
Bobby, no matter what you say or do you will never please everybody. I learned that lesson a long time ago.

I can't even spell 832!
 

wrldpro

H.RUN 311/Diamond W.R.
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Bobby, no matter what you say or do you will never please everybody. I learned that lesson a long time ago.

I can't even spell 832!
Of course Jay but without the trolls to have to bust their chops it would be 1% less fun. We are really gonna spike the football on this run. Love or hate Jayson he is a phenomenal player or even better an incredible person outside of pool. I’m really happy that we are friends and that this possibly untouchable accomplishment will certainly be recognized and rewarded to him very soon.
 

wrldpro

H.RUN 311/Diamond W.R.
Silver Member
After watching you rack, seemingly 85,000 times, I would like to set my table up like you have this set up. Have you only trained the table, or are you also using some sort of donuts? If so, what kind of donuts are those?
You said 85,000 times. Lol
 

Fatboy

AzB Silver Member
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I said before how he got such great break balls (which he manufactured) and great breaks was more impressive than not missing a ball. Not missing is amazing too. But 474,273 breaks in a row!!! Amazing 😁🤩👍

Funny how records can be exaggerated over time…..
 

EL Picos

AzB Silver Member
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Cmon Pal give it a rest. It's a gold crown just like most of us all grew up playing on. You are overly obsessed. If it's even possible you are making yourself look more stupid post after post. Speculation and ejaculation must be your daily or even hourly routine about Jaysons new World Record High run. 99% of people are happy then then a few people ask a few questions then you and you only are trying to direct or fabric thoughts of something that can not possibly be true. Sorry Pal standard specs 1963 gold crown 1.
You say that I look more and more stupid with each message I publish, but deep down you really don't seem so sure about that and that's why you feel obliged to respond to me with foul language. You also say that I'm the only one interested in pocket dimensions, but in reality right here on this thread at least 3 to 4 people have talked about it, including one who doesn't believe what you're saying in any way. Even more stupid you call people who ask questions haters and you even go so far as to say that they hate Jason Shaw, you really have a big problem. But when we even treat ourselves as an honest golden boy like you do, we understand more easily your way of treating people and also consider that everyone should take your word for it, but the more things go, the more your attitude demonstrates it. opposite. When I asked questions it was for my personal information and not to discredit Jason Shaw's achievement, I tell you again you have a big problem with your ego and lack of respect.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
the pocket size doesnt really matter at all. as long as its close to regulation and all parts of the table ,cloth and such are. this way after they are written down this will become the standard setup for determining the high runs.

before it was on any table in any conditions just the ball count.

all real records have qualifications that must be met and a set of standards. otherwise they are just wow value.

so if bobby's conditions can be reasonably duplicated, then his set of standards should and will be the determining factor in world high runs.
 

skogstokig

AzB Silver Member
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A troll is a being in Nordic folklore, including Norse mythology. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated areas of rocks, mountains, or caves, live together in small family units, and are rarely helpful to human beings.

definition from wikipedia😬

yes but in the internet meaning it refers to trolling, the fishing method. throw bait out and wait for someone to bite
 

Badpenguin

Well-known member
You say that I look more and more stupid with each message I publish, but deep down you really don't seem so sure about that and that's why you feel obliged to respond to me with foul language. You also say that I'm the only one interested in pocket dimensions, but in reality right here on this thread at least 3 to 4 people have talked about it, including one who doesn't believe what you're saying in any way. Even more stupid you call people who ask questions haters and you even go so far as to say that they hate Jason Shaw, you really have a big problem. But when we even treat ourselves as an honest golden boy like you do, we understand more easily your way of treating people and also consider that everyone should take your word for it, but the more things go, the more your attitude demonstrates it. opposite. When I asked questions it was for my personal information and not to discredit Jason Shaw's achievement, I tell you again you have a big problem with your ego and lack of respect.
If you are going to relentlessly question everyone’s integrity, at least learn how to spell the guy’s name first.
 

Bob Jewett

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The total clock time for the run from first break until the miss on the 13-8 combo was 3:39:22.

If you subtract the breaks for dinner, bathroom and timeout for passing 714, the total actual shooting time including racking was 3:08 (13.6 seconds/ball)

The racking time was about 40 seconds on the several racks I measured, so the actual shooting time was about 2:29 (10.7 seconds/ball).
 

WildWing

Super Gun Mod
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Cmon Pal give it a rest. It's a gold crown just like most of us all grew up playing on. You are overly obsessed. If it's even possible you are making yourself look more stupid post after post. Speculation and ejaculation must be your daily or even hourly routine about Jaysons new World Record High run. 99% of people are happy then then a few people ask a few questions then you and you only are trying to direct or fabric thoughts of something that can not possibly be true. Sorry Pal standard specs 1963 gold crown 1.
That is the same table spec on which Babe Cranfield ran 768 in Syracuse, so I have no doubt Jason's run is legitimate. Records are meant to be broken, however difficult. Congratulations to Jason.

All the best,
WW
 

Fatboy

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I sent a txt to a good friend, he’s here on AZB. We were talking about Jayson’s run.

Here’s my txt, it’s part of a conversation so, I thought it summarized things in a way, here’s what I said:

Thing is the table was built in 1963, 760 has been around in America since 87 (far as I know).


It's not like he ran 832 on something new that hasn’t been tested before. Who hasn't played on a GC with 760? We all have, anyone who's played pool for 20 years has. Why didn't we run 832?





That's actually a good post. I'm gonna mention that on AZB later.

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I copied it and pasted it
 

Bob Jewett

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Me too. Drives me crazy because growing up playing I was always told do not disturb a break ball once it’s in the area it should be along with the key ball. Jaysons style of play is just that his style. 1 of a kind.
I wrote an extended description of the run for my February column in Billiards Digest. Here's a related excerpt:

As with Jayson’s previous record run, which I covered in detail in my June 2022 column, this run was remarkable for the number of times he moved a ball into better break shot position. He adjusted the break ball in 36 of the 59 racks. In six of those racks he adjusted the break ball twice, but in one of those he moved the break ball accidently after adjustment and had to move it back.
 
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