9 Ball World Championsips

[tom mcgonagle]

I just looked at the results of the first day. Only one American is entered in this event. Pretty sad commentary for a country that ruled the game for years.

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[pt109]

I just looked at the results of the first day. Only one American is entered in this event. Pretty sad commentary for a country that ruled the game for years.

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That IS strange...Canada, with 10% of the population, has 4 entries.
On the other hand, it IS Shane Van Boening.....
...reminds me of a Texas Ranger story.

This town was having a riot and they telegraphed for the Rangers.
The city fathers went to the train station....and only one Texas Ranger
stepped onto the platform. The officials said "We got a riot here, and
they only send ONE Ranger?"
The Ranger looked at them calmly and said.....
"Y'all only got one riot."

 

[King T]

Sad is right!

No American players that can compete on the world stage! Sad, no disgustinng is what it is. SVB, Archer, Morris?

They have the game, but tha American player are never in action, other than SVB and thats way they cant stay sharp.

I know they need money to make it to all or most of the world tourny's, sponsers or a enough of a prize to make it worth the trip, well that might be the problem.

No money , no dream.

 

[Bankit]

Hey Tom, Check again Sir. Mr. Hunter Lombarto is also from there from the USA. I wish them both success. GO USA>

 

[sjm]

Well, I'll start by wishing Shane and Hunter good luck.

Still, the general absence of American participants in so many of the premier major championships is the continuation of a disturbing trend that tends to explain why Americans are having such poor results when they mix it up with the international superstars of pool.

The seeds are being planted, once again, for failure at the Mosconi Cup.

 

[Celtic]

I just looked at the results of the first day. Only one American is entered in this event. Pretty sad commentary for a country that ruled the game for years.

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There are many of us on here that have been stating that this is an issue for years now. We did not need the tournament to take place and then be all shocked that this is the case, it is to be expected with the current crop of people in charge of pool in the USA and the state those people have let the sport slip to.

You can post this and bring it up but this is not new, it has been mentioned before, and the people in the USA who have the ability to work on stuff like this will simply let it continue.

 

[salted]

I'm sorry but other than SVB, no north american player can even think of competing against the asians. Sponsors, time etc are just excuses. If the likes of Morris, Archer etc thought they could win the 40000 prize, theyd be there vying to be World Champions. The players from the phillipines, chinese tapei and china are just too strong.

 

[Scott Lee]

Celtic...Since you seem to know, how about telling the rest of us... Who, exactly, is "in charge" of pool in the USA? IMO there is no one...which is part of the problem.

Who, exactly, has the ability (and time...and money) to "work on stuff like this"? Nobody I know works for free...

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

it is to be expected with the current crop of people in charge of pool in the USA and the state those people have let the sport slip to.

the people in the USA who have the ability to work on stuff like this will simply let it continue.

 

[tonyc]

The BCA use to give players $1000 towards expenses don't think they have done that for few years. As for not being able to compete with the Asians I disagree, Considering the UK players have had some great results the last few years. If you cant get the players to show up for 50,000 with no money taken out of entry fees in Florida whats the chances they are going to fly 20 hours around the world to a country where they are not exactly considered safe.

Asia right now is the only place where pool is doing good, but you have to live there for it to be worthwhile. I don't post much on sites but I hate to hear players like Morris and archer being knocked, whether you like them or not, they are great players and unless you can stand up and play pool for living which 99% of players around the world can't then I think you have no right to knock them. Try putting your money up and playing this game for a living lets see how many banks will give you a mortgage on your home or keeping food on the dinner table for a family.

 

[Celtic]

Celtic...Since you seem to know, how about telling the rest of us... Who, exactly, is "in charge" of pool in the USA? IMO there is no one...which is part of the problem.

I said "people" not "person". The BCA has people on payroll who are supposed to be doing something. They have done nothing at all for the sport in North America for decades now and completely ignore their mandate.

Mark Griffin who I admit does more then most has alot of power given his name and control of one of the premier league systems combined with the professional tournaments he runs. I have posted before thoughts on ways that the BCAPL and professional game could merge more into a single organization combining the amature and professional game much like the minor league of other sports. If the USA actually did this and actually got a legitimate professional tour where professional players had tour cards and played in events where only pros competed with other pros you could start to do an actual legitimate single tour ranking system that could also act as the way into world championship events.

The WPA is doing a terrible job of marketing and promoting the sport. The tournaments they are involved in have less prize fund, less publicity, and attract less of the worlds top players then they did 15 years ago. They neglect certain key areas of the world in promotion, nowhere more then the USA. They lack streaming of their events (how can you not actually WATCH a world championship in any way live... this is unexcusable). They are a dying entity with shrinking events that are becomming more obscure and harder to find information on each year and that are impossible to watch.

Other smaller players in pool remain small. Things like this world championships, a lack of USA participation, and there is noone stepping up to the plate and saying "this is not ok, we need to fix this and we need to start working on it NOW so that next year at this time things are different". Instead everyone is apathetic, they shrug, grunt, and simply do not care. And if that is the way things continue then not only will nothing improve, they will continue to get worse.

 

[Fatboy]

Celtic...Since you seem to know, how about telling the rest of us... Who, exactly, is "in charge" of pool in the USA? IMO there is no one...which is part of the problem.

Who, exactly, has the ability (and time...and money) to "work on stuff like this"? Nobody I know works for free...

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

you can bet if I hadnt lost 90 million, pool would be going in a different direction. Soon as i'm back in the chips again( and I will be) I'm going to make something real, and good and big happen. The little I do is just to show that i'm for real.

 

[Rubyron]

I'm sorry but other than SVB, no north american player can even think of competing against the asians. Sponsors, time etc are just excuses. If the likes of Morris, Archer etc thought they could win the 40000 prize, theyd be there vying to be World Champions. The players from the phillipines, chinese tapei and china are just too strong.

Then what, pray tell, is the reason the Asians aren't robbing the US Open? It has an equally enticing first place prize of $40,000.

After doing some Google research I am absolutely astounded to find that an Asian player has only won twice (Efren 94' & Alex 05') in the last 35 years. Other than that it has been dominated by American and European players.

If the "phillipines, chinese tapei and china" players "are just too strong" why aren't they winning this tournament? Are the Europeans standing in their way?

 

[Zippo]

Then what, pray tell, is the reason the Asians aren't robbing the US Open? It has an equally enticing first place prize of $40,000.

After doing some Google research I am absolutely astounded to find that an Asian player has only won twice (Efren 94' & Alex 05') in the last 35 years. Other than that it has been dominated by American and European players.

If the "phillipines, chinese tapei and china" players "are just too strong" why aren't they winning this tournament? Are the Europeans standing in their way?

It's very hard to get a visa to your country. If you are european there's no problem, you only need a passport. If you are from the Philippines or China is very tought to convince the folks of the embassy that you are not an immigrant.

 

[gopi-1]

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[Nostroke]

Then what, pray tell, is the reason the Asians aren't robbing the US Open? It has an equally enticing first place prize of $40,000.

After doing some Google research I am absolutely astounded to find that an Asian player has only won twice (Efren 94' & Alex 05') in the last 35 years. Other than that it has been dominated by American and European players.

If the "phillipines, chinese tapei and china" players "are just too strong" why aren't they winning this tournament? Are the Europeans standing in their way?

Your research skills are weak-here is the real info-men- women- juniors



2011 Yukio Akagariyama (JPN) Zhu Qing Bi (CHN) Boys - Marek Kudlik (POL); Girls - Oliwia Czuprynska (POL) Jounu Tahti (FIN)
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2010 Francisco Bustamante (PHI) Fu Xiaofang (CHN) Francisco Sanchez-Ruiz (ESP) Brittany Bryant (CAN) Jounu Tähti (FIN)
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2009 ** Not Played ** Liu Sha-Sha (CHN) Ruslan Chinahov (RUS) and Keng-Chun Lin (TPE)
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2008 ** Not Played ** Yuan Chun-Lin (TPE) Yi-Ko Pin (TPE) and Brittany Bryant (CAN) Aaron Aragon (USA)
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2007 Daryl Peach (GBR) Xiao Ting Pan (CHN) Yi-Ko Pin (TPE) and Mary Rakin (USA) Henrik Larsson (SWE)
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2006 Ronnie Alcano (PHI) Kim Ga Young (KOR) Yu-Lun Wu (TPE) and Mary Rakin (USA) ** Not Played **
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2005 Chia-Ching Wu (TPE) ** Not Played ** Yu-Lun Wu (TPE) and Jasmin Ouschan (AUT) Fred Dinsmore (IRL)
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2004 Alex Pagulayan (CAN) Kim Ga Young (KOR) Yu-Lun Wu (TPE) and Meng-Meng Zhou (CHN) Shou-Wei Chu (TPE)
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[richiebalto]

you can bet if I hadnt lost 90 million, pool would be going in a different direction. Soon as i'm back in the chips again( and I will be) I'm going to make something real, and good and big happen. The little I do is just to show that i'm for real.

Everybody knows you r for real,u do more then a little for pool,boy 90 mil,i just wish i had 1 of them to lose!

 

[boyraks]

Then what, pray tell, is the reason the Asians aren't robbing the US Open? It has an equally enticing first place prize of $40,000.

After doing some Google research I am absolutely astounded to find that an Asian player has only won twice (Efren 94' & Alex 05') in the last 35 years. Other than that it has been dominated by American and European players.

If the "phillipines, chinese tapei and china" players "are just too strong" why aren't they winning this tournament? Are the Europeans standing in their way?

Try to tell a Chinese guy to come to the states just to play pool and see what their government would say. Entirely different situation for Alex or Efren.

 

[salted]

Please don't compare the US open and the World Championship. I don't want to claim whatever I'm saying as facts but the Chinese players don't need the US open for their 40,000. They have their own tournaments which will make them the same amount of money. Ofcourse you'd expect the majority of participants to be americans in the US open. If that wasn't the case, US pool would be in trouble. I like how you've added Americans and Europeans to your point. The last 4 years a european has won the US open. what does that say?

 

[Nostroke]

Then what, pray tell, is the reason the Asians aren't robbing the US Open? It has an equally enticing first place prize of $40,000.

After doing some Google research I am absolutely astounded to find that an Asian player has only won twice (Efren 94' & Alex 05') in the last 35 years. Other than that it has been dominated by American and European players.

If the "phillipines, chinese tapei and china" players "are just too strong" why aren't they winning this tournament? Are the Europeans standing in their way?

Why doesnt Alex win it every other year? Because it's nine ball!!

With a field of 200+ no one who ever lived is a favorite to win it. How you dont know that is baffling.

If the top 30 Asians came over 25 of them would lose money and as i pointed out, Your research is terrible.

 

[Donny Lutz]

Taipei?

Then what, pray tell, is the reason the Asians aren't robbing the US Open? It has an equally enticing first place prize of $40,000.

After doing some Google research I am absolutely astounded to find that an Asian player has only won twice (Efren 94' & Alex 05') in the last 35 years. Other than that it has been dominated by American and European players.

If the "phillipines, chinese tapei and china" players "are just too strong" why aren't they winning this tournament? Are the Europeans standing in their way?

To all AZers who continue to think that Taipei is a country...
I understand how you might be confused as Taipei has been referred to as a country in several pool mags over the past few years.
Taipei is not a country, it is the capital of Taiwan, which is a country.
Might this be an example of how little Americans know about the world beyond our borders? Reminds me of when "W" referred to Africa as a "country"...

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor