90/90 pivot

SpiderWebComm said:
Edited videos don't count and neither do stitched together flier stroke / trick shots.

How about YOU have 24 hrs to match MY score on YOUR shot test on a 4.5x9 with 4.5" pocketed table.
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So you think I didn't do all those shots in an hour or so?

And your table has buckets compared to mine. I'd be very happy to play you for money in any game I'm familiar with. I've actually won over 50k from pool tournaments... and you?

You press for a challenge and just want to play plain ball pots.. well, playing the game requires much more.

Colin
 
Colin Colenso said:
So you think I didn't do all those shots in an hour or so?

And your table has buckets compared to mine. I'd be very happy to play you for money in any game I'm familiar with. I've actually won over 50k from pool tournaments... and you?

You press for a challenge and just want to play plain ball pots.. well, playing the game requires much more.

Colin
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Buckets? 4.5" pro cut are buckets?

Edited videos do NOT count, never have. For all anyone knows it took you 3 years of dogged attempts to "stitch" that together. Stroke shots like that have ZERO correlation to your playing ability.

Post some UNEDITED videos of some runs. The last unedited video you posted was prob your own potting test video, which was abysmal...absolutely atrocious.

Setup shots that are edited-up do not and have never counted towards anything. If I edited my videos, I would have run 10000.

So, post your original potting test results video. Still have it?
 
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Why did you change your pants in an hour or so?


Colin Colenso said:
So you think I didn't do all those shots in an hour or so?

And your table has buckets compared to mine. I'd be very happy to play you for money in any game I'm familiar with. I've actually won over 50k from pool tournaments... and you?

You press for a challenge and just want to play plain ball pots.. well, playing the game requires much more.

Colin
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Tony_in_MD said:
Why did you change your pants in an hour or so?
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As I implied, there were 2 takes on my old mobile camera, which could record about 30 mins in vid mode... the room, in Shanghai warmed up in the afternoon, so I took a break and changed into to seriously unfashionable shorts.

Get crime investigators onto the shadows.... from that, you can tell the whole sequence is likely shot within a the same day.

I don't care if it takes others a week to do it, I know some of those shots would take years for most players to execute.

Colin.
 
Ok. So no one up to the challenge so far... LOL

Coz obviously spent years on that clip using a 2000 model mobile phone taped to a wall.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Any why you've never posted a decent positional shot. Just banks and 3/4 ball cuts.
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So, your potting test was nothing but 3/4 cut shots??! Really? I never have to blast 4 rail position shots because I never put myself in that position.

Here's YOUR potting test:
https://vimeo.com/40296011

Here's a 49-ball run:
https://vimeo.com/31802564

Both are unedited and both are YEARS old. How about you stop posturing and post an unedited video of you running a lot of balls or shooting at LEAST an average score on your OWN potting test?

You have 24hrs....Mr. I'll Gamble Any Amount from Australia. Give me a break.

My table was purchased from the Valley Forge Pro event back when they used Brunswick tables. It had 4.5" pro-cut pockets and shelves and it didn't play like a "bucket."

...anyways...24 hrs....g'luck.
 
CSI, please don't insult me. Keeping the date and time stamp on the original video would have made more sense to prove your position.

Finally, as you well know, equipment matters a great deal with some of these shots as well.

I am out of this bickering, condescending back and forth.


Colin Colenso said:
As I implied, there were 2 takes on my old mobile camera, which could record about 30 mins in vid mode... the room, in Shanghai warmed up in the afternoon, so I took a break and changed into to seriously unfashionable shorts.

Get crime investigators onto the shadows.... from that, you can tell the whole sequence is likely shot within a the same day.

I don't care if it takes others a week to do it, I know some of those shots would take years for most players to execute.

Colin.
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SpiderWebComm said:
So, your potting test was nothing but 3/4 cut shots??! Really? I never have to blast 4 rail position shots because I never put myself in that position.

Here's YOUR potting test:
https://vimeo.com/40296011

Here's a 49-ball run:
https://vimeo.com/31802564

Both are unedited and both are YEARS old. How about you stop posturing and post an unedited video of you running a lot of balls or shooting at LEAST an average score on your OWN potting test?

You have 24hrs....Mr. I'll Gamble Any Amount from Australia. Give me a break.

My table was purchased from the Valley Forge Pro event back when they used Brunswick tables. It had 4.5" pro-cut pockets and shelves and it didn't play like a "bucket."

...anyways...24 hrs....g'luck.
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Here's about the only playing video I ever posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miQYCXDID6E&list=UUlFdflujASX2mGHSTqgbaEQ

And as I've said, I did the potting drill out of courtesy after not playing for a couple of weeks due to nearly broken ribs, after having got confused by trialing CTE methods in the weeks preceding. My record in comp far surpasses yours Dave. I've played with the best and know what it takes. I'm not a champ, and though you seem to pot well, I've heard of no achievements. I've represented state and country and won my fair share over 30 years.
 
colin colenso said:
here's about the only playing video i ever posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miqycxdid6e&list=uulfdflujasx2mghstqgbaeq

and as i've said, i did the potting drill out of courtesy after not playing for a couple of weeks due to nearly broken ribs, after having got confused by trialing cte methods in the weeks preceding. My record in comp far surpasses yours dave. I've played with the best and know what it takes. I'm not a champ, and though you seem to pot well, i've heard of no achievements. I've represented state and country and won my fair share over 30 years.
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Jesus, Colin---
Edited videos do not count!!!!!!

Wasssamattawitchu!?!?!?!???

Your ribs are healed now --- do it or STFU

EDIT: I would take that crap down too. Don't blame ya.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Jesus, Colin---
Edited videos do not count!!!!!!

Wasssamattawitchu!?!?!?!???

Your ribs are healed now --- do it or STFU
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You came here accusing me of not being able to play. I set a challenge and you ducked and want me to re-do a meaningless challenge.

You ducked the invitation!

I probably wont back myself in an all out pot challenge against you, but in any game that requires CB control, which I've 40 years of experience in, I think you're toast. That said, I know I'm in the ball park re: pure potting with no position.

Tell you what, I'll play you 2 rail 11 ball rotation to 101 for $5k.

I'd fly to US to take that easy money!

Colin
 
Colin Colenso said:
You came here accusing me of not being able to play. I set a challenge and you ducked and want me to re-do a meaningless challenge.

You ducked the invitation!

I probably wont back myself in an all out pot challenge against you, but in any game that requires CB control, which I've 40 years of experience in, I think you're toast. That said, I know I'm in the ball park re: pure potting with no position.

Tell you what, I'll play you 2 rail 11 ball rotation to 101 for $5k.

I'd fly to US to take that easy money!

Colin
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Post a video or STFU
EDIT: Post an UNEDITED VIDEO or STFU

What's the big deal? Let's see how you play for a period of time with NO edits. Forget the "I'll be higher than you" to get out of this.
 
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I'm puzzled. WTF does an extensively edited video of tricks shots have to do with 90/90 or pivot lengths? Show me those 24 shots without editing the video and it may be impressive. First, I believe you said, or at least indicated, those shots were accomplished in an hour. Then you got called out for changing clothes which clearly proved they weren't done in an hour. So which part of your story are we supposed to believe?

By the way, I still thought the 24 shots were impressive, well done. They didn't prove squat about aiming, pivoting, 90/90, CTE or anything like that, but still, rather impressive.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
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Post a video or STFU
EDIT: Post an UNEDITED VIDEO or STFU

What's the big deal? Let's see how you play for a period of time with NO edits. Forget the "I'll be higher than you" to get out of this.
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You're obviously scared of trying to reproduce some of the shots in the video I challenged you to make.

Who cares if I make 18 of 20 pots? I could try 10 times and show the best, it wouldn't prove anything.... but I think several of the shots I showed in my video are beyond your capability, regardless of how much you edit.

So practice and edit away, I'll give you or any other intuitive pivoting CTE players 3 days to make those shots, coz some, you'll be stuck on for weeks.

Colin
 
nobcitypool said:
I'm puzzled. WTF does an extensively edited video of tricks shots have to do with 90/90 or pivot lengths? Show me those 24 shots without editing the video and it may be impressive. First, I believe you said, or at least indicated, those shots were accomplished in an hour. Then you got called out for changing clothes which clearly proved they weren't done in an hour. So which part of your story are we supposed to believe?

By the way, I still thought the 24 shots were impressive, well done. They didn't prove squat about aiming, pivoting, 90/90, CTE or anything like that, but still, rather impressive.
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I'm just making a point that the constant knockers who bash-in guys who want to discuss this topic in peace have never posted a video of any length of run, unedited, ever. Yet, the guys they're trying to thumb definitely have and have done repeatedly.

I want to see DUCKIE post a REAL run of any length. He NEVER will cause he flat-out can't play. He'll reply with a "I'll bet you a MILLION DOLLARS, Spidey" comment, but he will NOT post an impressive run video. Yet, he spends his life on here knocking those who incorporated that stuff into their game and who HAVE posted proof that they can play while he hasn't.

Like I said, Gerry has, Neil has, Mohrt has and I have. Colin hasn't, English hasn't and Duckie hasn't. It is what it is.

They will try HARD to spin into another direction, but it is what it is. Any time any of them post anything other than constructive in these threads, I'll just keep reminding them to post a video. Readers should know who can play and who can't when trying to learn info.
 
Colin Colenso said:
You're obviously scared of trying to reproduce some of the shots in the video I challenged you to make.

Who cares if I make 18 of 20 pots? I could try 10 times and show the best, it wouldn't prove anything.... but I thing several of the shots I showed in my video are beyond your capability, regardless of how much you edit.

So practice and edit away, I'll give you or any other intuitive pivoting CTE players 3 days to make those shots, coz some, you'll be stuck on for weeks.

Colin
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Post a 14.1 unedited run. Post an unedited "package" of your rotation games.

Forgot your potting test, I know you tapped-out on your own test.

Forget that "setup" edited stroke shot video. Meaningless. Post a "REAL" video or STFU.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I'm just making a point that the constant knockers who bash-in guys who want to discuss this topic in peace have never posted a video of any length of run, unedited, ever. Yet, the guys they're trying to thumb definitely have and have done repeatedly.

I want to see DUCKIE post a REAL run of any length. He NEVER will cause he flat-out can't play. He'll reply with a "I'll bet you a MILLION DOLLARS, Spidey" comment, but he will NOT post an impressive run video. Yet, he spends his life on here knocking those who incorporated that stuff into their game and who HAVE posted proof that they can play while he hasn't.

Like I said, Gerry has, Neil has, Mohrt has and I have. Colin hasn't, English hasn't and Duckie hasn't. It is what it is.

They will try HARD to spin into another direction, but it is what it is. Any time any of them post anything other than constructive in these threads, I'll just keep reminding them to post a video. Readers should know who can play and who can't when trying to learn info.
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Didn't I just post a 24 or so run, that has been online for years? Not spectacular, but only a fool would watch it and think I can't play a bit.

And the IPT stats of the world champs confirm that I made 5 break and runs from 16 break attempts, which is not sensational, but in the top 25% of competitors at that event, and something a lot think they should do, but don't, especially when playing the world's best.
 
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Colin Colenso said:
Didn't I just post a 24 or so run, that has been online for years? Not spectacular, but only a fool would watch it and think I can't play a bit.
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I can't speak for anyone but myself but I have no doubt you're a reasonably skilled player. I'm also positive you don't have anywhere close to a solid working knowledge of CTE, Pro One or 90/90 but that doesn't seem to prevent from frequently posting disparaging comments about those systems. I don't recall any of the CTE advocates posting uninformed negative comments on your bhe threads but apparently you don't possess the same level of respect.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Didn't I just post a 24 or so run, that has been online for years? Not spectacular, but only a fool would watch it and think I can't play a bit.
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Where is it? If so, you're off the list. I'm not needling you personally, I'm just saying post a video and you're getting your panties in a bunch. If you can, you can... end of story. If you can't, then you can't.

Either way, at least the audience has a clue. You were defending Duckie as if I was clueless in my post and that post was the most astute post of this entire thread and most people don't even know it. Duckie, I'm SURE, can't draw his rock and he's knocking ME!??? You could give him a 1000 years to post a run or shot test better than mine and he'd die before succeeding. It'd be a never-ending search for El Dorado, where he dies hungry and penniless.

I just want to see where everyone stands while everyone is mouthing off about topics being a sham. Stan puts up, RonV puts up, the others I've mentioned did as well - yet the loudest knockers never have. Peculiar, I say...which is why I say post it or just be quiet for now on.
 
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