90/90 pivot

nobcitypool said:
Okay, I read it. How about a million?. You want to mail me a check or do electronic transfer.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=381423

That was really difficult, I had to go four threads down.
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I never said in my original post that YOU post in every single aiming thread. The bet was on what I said and nowhere in my post was your screen name mentioned mentioned. I said CTE'ers. What is so hard to comprehend about that?

The thread you linked is about fundamentals and shouldn't even be in the aiming section. I am not gonna argue with you.

I defended CTE the other day and have DVD1 and DVD2. I firmly believe that CTE threads should be about CTE and other threads should be about that particular aiming system only. The problem is when all of the systems try to bash each other. You used to be against CTE as well until you took lessons from Stan and STevie. DO you remember those days?
 
nine_ball6970 said:
I never said in my original post that YOU post in every single aiming thread. The bet was on what I said and nowhere in my post was your screen name mentioned mentioned. I said CTE'ers. What is so hard to comprehend about that?

The thread you linked is about fundamentals and shouldn't even be in the aiming section. I am not gonna argue with you.

I defended CTE the other day and have DVD1 and DVD2. I firmly believe that CTE threads should be about CTE and other threads should be about that particular aiming system only. The problem is when all of the systems try to bash each other. You used to be against CTE as well until you took lessons from Stan and STevie. DO you remember those days?
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You're not going to argue now that I've shown where you were wrong.

I do remember those days. I waa in fact just thinking about that this morning. I'm fortunate Stan was forgiving and had patience with me. Perhaps that's why I feel so strongly about the system now.

I'm not into bashing other systems. Most have merit to some degree or another.
 
nobcitypool said:
You're not going to argue now that I've shown where you were wrong.

I do remember those days. I waa in fact just thinking about that this morning. I'm fortunate Stan was forgiving and had patience with me. Perhaps that's why I feel so strongly about the system now.

I'm not into bashing other systems. Most have merit to some degree or another.
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Originally Posted by nine_ball6970 View Post
And the CTE'ers continuously post in every single aiming thread no matter what system is being discussed.

It would be nice if the threads stayed on topic.

Well, I spent time working with CTE, SEE and 90/90. While the 90/90 DVD didn't work well for me, Neil spent some of his personal time helping me with that system.

What was your point again? You say I post in every single aiming thread? How much would you like to wager on that statement? Please make it a very, very large amount. Or are you just another person who likes to make completely unfounded statements? Oops, that obviously qualifies as rhetorical.

AGAIN go back to my original post. I NEVER SAID YOU POST IN EVERY SINGLE AIMING THREAD. Read it several times if you have to.......

Why don't you address that instead of finding one thread which is in the aiming section which should be in Ask the Instructor because he is asking about stroke, grip, etc?
 
Damn Neil, look what you did!? :D

Throughout the years I have always learned to have an open mind on these types of discussions. If I had a closed mind I may miss out on some material that can help me with my game. I am also glad I have a filter and can weed out the negative posts. At the end of the day this is a great game we are playing. There is no need to turn it into a stressful job with some of these arguments/jabs members are doing at each other, especially toward respected instructors that dedicate their lives trying to help individuals improve their games. It is pretty sad really.


Matt <---lifelong student of the game
 
nine_ball6970 said:
Originally Posted by nine_ball6970 View Post
And the CTE'ers continuously post in every single aiming thread no matter what system is being discussed.

It would be nice if the threads stayed on topic.

Well, I spent time working with CTE, SEE and 90/90. While the 90/90 DVD didn't work well for me, Neil spent some of his personal time helping me with that system.

What was your point again? You say I post in every single aiming thread? How much would you like to wager on that statement? Please make it a very, very large amount. Or are you just another person who likes to make completely unfounded statements? Oops, that obviously qualifies as rhetorical.

AGAIN go back to my original post. I NEVER SAID YOU POST IN EVERY SINGLE AIMING THREAD. Read it several times if you have to.......

Why don't you address that instead of finding one thread which is in the aiming section which should be in Ask the Instructor because he is asking about stroke, grip, etc?
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Okay, here is another.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=381423

And another.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=381627

And another.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=380521

Those are in the first half of the first page of the aiming section. How much were you wanting to bet again?
 
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nobcitypool said:
Okay, here is another.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=381423

And another.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=381627

And another.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=380521

Those are in the first half of the first page of the aiming section. How much were you wanting to bet again?
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Do you really have that much of a reading comprehension problem?

That is the second time you have quoted that first thread about fundamentals. The second one is simply asking where to obtain the SEE sytem. Sorry but CTE is mentioned in the third thread.
 
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just sad

It s really sad,

so many fantastic postings in this thread-- and much more personal bullshit inbetween.
It can be annoying to enjoy your coffee by reading this thread. and i can understand why some very very helpful and knowledged guys and fellows stopped more and more to post their *opinions* or what s more sad (imo) -to share their knowledge.

Dave: great! (as usual) Hope your back is feeling much better again
Randy:What great news about your China Trip-- proud of you somehow :-)


lg from overseas,

Ingo
 
I seriously dont think English is here to troll anyone. He is very opinionated, a bit hardheaded and stubborn in his thinking.Sometimes that becomes annoying, I dont think he is evil like a few guys on here that enjoy trying to get others banned, and will run away as fast as they can or do some deflection maneuvers when they see the hammer coming in there direction to save themselves. (cowards!)
 
nine_ball6970 said:
Do you really have that much of a reading comprehension problem?

That is the second time you have quoted that first thread about fundamentals. The second one is simply asking where to obtain the SEE sytem. Sorry but CTE is mentioned in the third thread.
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You apparently struggle with understanding your own words pal. You said one of the CTE fans posts in every aiming thread. I think it is reasonable for most people to assume a thread in the aiming section qualifies as an aiming thread. But in your world of reading comprehension, one has to read your mind and read between the lines to begin to understand exactly what it is you actually mean. Your problem, not mine.

Here's the deal however, I can help you with this. There is a handful of the real CTE fanatics. If you have a problem with any or all of us, put us on ignore. It really is that simple. Then you won't have to hurt your eyes any longer.
 
Timothy Rose said:
I seriously dont think English is here to troll anyone. He is very opinionated, a bit hardheaded and stubborn in his thinking.Sometimes that becomes annoying, I dont think he is evil like a few guys on here that enjoy trying to get others banned, and will run away as fast as they can or do some deflection maneuvers when they see the hammer coming in there direction to save themselves. (cowards!)
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I personally don't think he does it intentionally. I think he will pick apart how your sentences are structured and take things to literally in person, also. I wonder if he has a dictionary at hand for when he's out and about to show people the true meaning of a word? I'm sure he's a bright chap, I just wish he would stop with the "can you explain what you mean by [insert phrase or word here that everyone else seems to get apart from Rick ]". It gets annoying and makes him look a bit of an idiot. I'm sure he's smart, as I said and I think he does it purely to be awkward.
 
Pidge said:
I personally don't think he does it intentionally. I think he will pick apart how your sentences are structured and take things to literally in person, also. I wonder if he has a dictionary at hand for when he's out and about to show people the true meaning of a word? I'm sure he's a bright chap, I just wish he would stop with the "can you explain what you mean by [insert phrase or word here that everyone else seems to get apart from Rick ]". It gets annoying and makes him look a bit of an idiot. I'm sure he's smart, as I said and I think he does it purely to be awkward.
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But words have meaning. The problem is not knowing what word to use which leads to misunderstandings.

Such as "The math guys think of the bridge as a rotational pivot (point) versus a fulcrum and thinking of the cue as a lever that rotates about rather than around."

In the math world, a fulcrum is a pivot point.

It if I understand what was described in that post, it is not a pivot but a rotation around a anchor point related to the OB which makes that anchor point a hinge and not a pivot.
 
duckie said:
But words have meaning. The problem is not knowing what word to use which leads to misunderstandings.

Such as "The math guys think of the bridge as a rotational pivot (point) versus a fulcrum and thinking of the cue as a lever that rotates about rather than around."

In the math world, a fulcrum is a pivot point.

It if I understand what was described in that post, it is not a pivot but a rotation around a anchor point related to the OB which makes that anchor point a hinge and not a pivot.
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I think for both you and ENGLISH, the following article might be an enlightening read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law

(Then again, it might not. :( )
-Sean
 
The problem with many laws are that they are written ambiguously.

All Congress needs to do is properly define 'a person' & 'abortion' is again illegal as it should be & was intended to be.

All we have is language. The largest problem in the world is miscommunication or the lack OF communication?

All we have are words. It's when we start stepping on the true & correct meaning of words that we start sliding down a slippery slope.

As one very famous president once said, 'Well...that depends on what the definition of 'is' is.

We are already sliding down that slope. The question is will we gain momentum going down or will we take hold & pick ourselves up & restore the time when & man's word was his bond & a handshake was better than any contract that the best lawer in the land could ever draw up.

Some of us were brought up well & others not so well.

Best to All.
 
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sfleinen said:
I think for both you and ENGLISH, the following article might be an enlightening read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law

(Then again, it might not. :( )
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Sean, that is just perfect! Especially this part:

Gaming the system

Gaming the system, also called "rules lawyering", is the following of the letter (sometimes referred to as RaW or Rules as Written) over, or contrary to, the spirit (sometimes referred to as RaI or Rules as Intended) of the law. It is used negatively to describe the act of manipulating the rules to achieve a personal advantage. It may also mean acting in an antisocial, irritating manner while technically staying within the bounds of the rules.
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Just as gamesmanship is defined as unfair play while technically appearing to stay within the limits of the rules, "gaming the system" applies to all those who create havoc on these boards and then claim that they have never violated any of the posted rules. Makes it really tough for the moderators to deal with, but the tough ones will euthanize offenders once they become convinced that they are being played. The popularity of a given poster shouldn't enter into the equation. If a member is exhibiting anti-social behavior and refuses to stop, he must be culled from the herd for the good of all. End of discussion.
 
So, since we are this far off topic anyway, what happened to the CTE math thread? Who had it pulled? Or am I just overlooking it?

No worries really either way, I will always remember who so desperately wanted to "take the watch apart" and who most likely will fail to do so. I trust my gut on this...

~Razor
 
duckie said:
But words have meaning. The problem is not knowing what word to use which leads to misunderstandings.

Such as "The math guys think of the bridge as a rotational pivot (point) versus a fulcrum and thinking of the cue as a lever that rotates about rather than around."

In the math world, a fulcrum is a pivot point.

It if I understand what was described in that post, it is not a pivot but a rotation around a anchor point related to the OB which makes that anchor point a hinge and not a pivot.
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Interesting insight duckie!

If it is such, it would be interesting to model the location of the anchor point of that hinge, or even a line of movement of such an anchor point, which might provide a mechanism for how the rotation of the cue comes to an appropriate alignment.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Interesting insight duckie!

If it is such, it would be interesting to model the location of the anchor point of that hinge, or even a line of movement of such an anchor point, which might provide a mechanism for how the rotation of the cue comes to an appropriate alignment.
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Might as well build a heim joint jig to test this out .:D
 
As I stated earlier, words have meanings. It is the use of words that communication happens.

This brings me to this.......primal arc. What is it?

I googled primal arc and got some interesting results, but nothing to help me understand the meaning of this phrase as used in relation to aiming.

Sometimes it is a good idea to included the definition of words or phrases being used in order not to be misunderstood or to make your meaning as clear as possible.

It is never a good idea to assume that everyone knows the terminology used to express yourself.

This is why some will ask questions in order to understand what was being discussed.

The only way the bridge length does not matter is when the cue is not being pivoted at the bridge, but the whole body including the cue is rotated into position. This is the only way the length of the bridge does not matter.
 
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