Nice Job Max... Very Crisp nice clean patterns !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3unVxz8ar8&feature=youtu.be
Enjoy Everyone !
-Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3unVxz8ar8&feature=youtu.be
Enjoy Everyone !
-Steve
99-ball run - *world record filmed* on a 10ft table - by max eberle
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It's "leveraging a loophole," Ron. Apparently, it's the highest 14.1 run on a 10-footer "ever filmed" (i.e. there's no higher filmed run on a 10-footer), so Max is playing a little bit of a marketing game with the title verbiage on this one.
I personally don't like the use of the "world record" thing, because it's extremely misleading. Notice in the video, it's carefully framed as "world record filmed" -- but it's evasive/exploitive marketing nonetheless.
Not to take anything away from Max's run, however. That was a very fine run no matter how you slice it!
-Sean
Great playing!!! thanks for posting it.
I see use of the term world record as appropriate here. after all guinness book is full of 1000s of unofficial records. Max is not claiming it is anything beyond the hi run caught on camera. until someone comes with a higher run, new or old, on video or film I see it as a world record.
I'm with you on that.
Max is a great guy and I am sure he was grinning when he put it up.
If people start playing on ten footers more, perhaps the record will go up.
Maybe at the Derby Straight Pool Challenge this year.:smile:
Highest Run Ever Captured On Video On A 5 x 10...
...but not the world record high run on a 5 x 10.
Creative Idea! Find out what the highest run was on a 5 x 10 - then work your ass off until you beat it - or die trying.
Edit: Reading the comments for the clip, it was mentioned that Crane ran a 309. That number does sound familiar. Didn't Mosconi run 309 and believe he beat Crane's record, only to find out Irving had also run a 309 - which meant they both held the record together - for at least a little while. Not sure if those runs were on a 5 x 10 or 4.5 x 9.
At any rate, if 309 is by chance the record, then a run of 99 is only 32% of the actual world record ball count. Which would be equivalent to running 168 balls on a 4 x 8 table and associating yourself with Mosconi's 526 simply because your run was recorded by a videocamera - a piece of technology which wasn't even invented when the runs of 309 and 526 occurred.
Thumbs down for watering down an accomplishment of a lifetime; simply for self-aggrandizement and personal enrichment.
Ron F
...but not the world record high run on a 5 x 10.
Creative Idea! Find out what the highest run was on a 5 x 10 - then work your ass off until you beat it - or die trying.
Edit: Reading the comments for the clip, it was mentioned that Crane ran a 309. That number does sound familiar. Didn't Mosconi run 309 and believe he beat Crane's record, only to find out Irving had also run a 309 - which meant they both held the record together - for at least a little while. Not sure if those runs were on a 5 x 10 or 4.5 x 9.
At any rate, if 309 is by chance the record, then a run of 99 is only 32% of the actual world record ball count. Which would be equivalent to running 168 balls on a 4 x 8 table and associating yourself with Mosconi's 526 simply because your run was recorded by a videocamera - a piece of technology which wasn't even invented when the runs of 309 and 526 occurred.
Thumbs down for watering down an accomplishment of a lifetime; simply for self-aggrandizement and personal enrichment.
Ron F
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Steve:
No problem -- I don't think the comments were directed at you, but rather at the person who titled it on YouTube (i.e. Max). 'Twas a nice clean run for sure -- I make no bones about it in my previous post.
However, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about the false/misleading advertising. We'd seen enough of that on this forum.
-Sean
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No reflection on you Steve. As you said, it's the title of the video you linked to. Judging by the comments for the video, there's at least one more viewer who doesn't agree with marketing under false pretenses.
Ron F
No reflection on you Steve. As you said, it's the title of the video you linked to. Judging by the comments for the video, there's at least one more viewer who doesn't agree with marketing under false pretenses.
Ron F
It is all good, so I say.
I'm a Libra, qualified to judge
I'm a Libra, qualified to judge
I would bet the 100+ will be filmed at the Derby in late Jan 2013. I will be very surprised if it is not closer to 150 as I think the balls will open up well and the clusters will diminish. We will see how modern equipment plays balls and cloth on the Diamond 5x10.
I agree World Record should only be used if the run is an actual recognized world record. Max is overall a good guy perhaps he will retitle his Youtube video.
I agree World Record should only be used if the run is an actual recognized world record. Max is overall a good guy perhaps he will retitle his Youtube video.
Interestingly, (or maybe not so), 309 balls is 22 racks plus 1 ball. I guess they were unable to break open the pack on that last break ball.
Yes, that's probably what happened, but it's also possible that the run did not start from a full table since it was in an exhibition match.
Crane's 309 run was on a 5x10. From a post a couple of years ago:
The record in tournament play on a 5x10 is by Joe Procita: 182 in 1954 against Mosconi.
Irving Crane was the first to run over 300 on a 5x10 in exhibition: 309 in Logan Utah in (February) 1939.
Mosconi ran 309 in exhibition in 1945, then 322 (April 22, 1953, Platteville, Wisconsin) and 365 (November 13, 1953, Wilmington, North Carolina). It's not clear which of these exhibition runs were on a 5x10, although the 309 probably was. Mosconi comments in his biography that the 365 started with him breaking the head ball into the side pocket, so his opponent had no shot during the game except the lag. The run took "more than an hour and a half."
A high run of 355 is also listed for Mosconi in 1953 but without any other information and Mosconi does not mention it in his biography.
The longest run in any cue sport discipline was by Tom Reece in 1907 at English Billiards: 499,135 (unfinished). That was on a 6x12 table, but Tom was not using much of the table.
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I have certified evidence (which, unfortunately, I can't locate at the moment) that Reece actually missed at 245,667 but nobody was awake to notice.
EW
Well, the record was not recognized as official because the public and press was not present for the majority of the run. IIRC it was done intermittently over a span of 5 weeks.
Unfortunately, the effect such things have on his forum is that more time is spent discussing them than is spent on the actual pool.
Run on 5x10
Nice, Max. It takes a little more power to play on a 5x10. Very challenging. I used to play on an old AMF 5x10 in New Mexico when I was a younger man. I always marveled at how easy a 9 footer was after I practiced on the bigger one. Could pool be going back to this bigger playing field??? I doubt it. But, it is a great venue for the pros.
Nice, Max. It takes a little more power to play on a 5x10. Very challenging. I used to play on an old AMF 5x10 in New Mexico when I was a younger man. I always marveled at how easy a 9 footer was after I practiced on the bigger one. Could pool be going back to this bigger playing field??? I doubt it. But, it is a great venue for the pros.
No longer a world record 
There is video of Pettman running 117 on a Diamond 5x10, I love seeing that the runs aren't diminishing.
The play is actually improving because you have more room to operate! True artists!
I ran 55 on a 7-footer a couple of days ago and I felt like every shot was a labor because everything was so tangled.
There is video of Pettman running 117 on a Diamond 5x10, I love seeing that the runs aren't diminishing.
The play is actually improving because you have more room to operate! True artists!
I ran 55 on a 7-footer a couple of days ago and I felt like every shot was a labor because everything was so tangled.