A little empathy for and some advice to Barry Behrman.

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Thanks to a number of AZB forums participants who decided to jump in and go after Barry Behrman in response to the January 8 post by leminham in respect of non payment of prize money from the US Open it would seem that all have been paid. At least all who felt it necessary to go public and ask for help from the many AZBer’s who provided a solid front that would not be denied.

I must admit up front that it is hard to have any empathy or sympathy for Barry but I found that as I read and contributed to the posts on this subject, listened to the recent interview he did on American Billiards Radio (great interview, Mike and Jerry) that I did.

I was surprised that I did because I have always viewed his participation in the various aspects of the US Open as the biggest negative to the whole event.

He blathers on ad nauseam, shuffling his papers, losing his thought process and generally taking away from the enjoyment of watching. His attempts to add his human interest aspect, seemingly fueled by his penchant for rye and coke, are unwatchable.

As I listened to the radio interview I felt that he was setting up to do it again. In the radio interview he talks of his new relationships with mayor, hotel, event location and others all clearly geared to sell hope and garner support from any doubters. It was too much. I found myself hoping that he would fail and get the heck out. Within a moment I realized I was wrong to think this way. I am not intemperate nor am I mean spirited by nature and I am rarely so uncharitable toward others as to think this way so I decided I should rethink my position.

Here is a man who started this event almost 40 years ago. He nurtured it and saw it grow into one of the premier events in the pool world. He would seem to be a salesman, an optimist and a risk taker by nature. When the initial problems (he mentions 9-11, hurricanes etc.) arose he kept charging ahead leveraging his main business, Q Masters, to supplement the shortfall of revenue at the Open. It seems that the ability to supplement the revenue shortfall has deteriorated to a point that for the past few years it became necessary to pay the participants later and later. I do not know if he would have paid everyone this year without the pressure exerted by AZBer’s but I suspect he might have done it eventually (at least I would like to think so). It seems he cannot bring himself to change the business model, reduce the added money, re-energize the sponsors and re-market the event to a wider fan base (live and broadcast). In fact it might be too late, too many bridges burned, too many promises not kept and no credibility left.

However, having said all this, what I really see is an old man desperate to somehow preserve his legacy and restore his shattered reputation before it is too late. I have empathy for that man and I hope he can pull it off.

Advice: Barry, lose the ego, commit to a proper business plan. Commit to an event that will be fan friendly, both live and broadcast. Put in place proper assurances that the venue will support these objectives. Involve the pool community by being open, transparent and willing to openly communicate with them. Solicit support from the many ambassadors (AZBer’s provides a vast base) that would market this event to other pool enthusiasts, league friends and others world-wide through social media. Leverage this groundswell of support to re-energize sponsors and the hosting community. Start on this path early (in days not months), be open to input from others (come on these forums and answer when questioned) and, speaking only for myself, commit to staying away from the front of the camera until it is time to present the trophy to the 2015 US Open champion.
 
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I admit a part of me feels the same way; there is empathy because he has kept the US OPEN going for so long; added big money to it, and I suppose he did what he could year after year; even "robbing Peter to pay Paul...."

A lot of the naysayers and haters have never contributed a dime to the tournament, but see it easy to sling the mud.......I'm not saying the people who did get short-changed (VIP seating, non-payment, etc.) don't have a beef, but not the others...

Anyway, when you mess with people's money, it becomes as serious as a heart attack for some........as you can see, most people at AZB cannot look past the negativity of lies, not paying the people on time, and broken promises.....

As to your advice, I don't see him taking any of it.....Barry would not be Barry if he didn't act as Barry does......Call it ego, call it a leopard that does not change his spots, whatever......the only change will come if he actually does abandon the tournament......
 
I admit a part of me feels the same way; there is empathy because he has kept the US OPEN going for so long; added big money to it, and I suppose he did what he could year after year; even "robbing Peter to pay Paul...."

A lot of the naysayers and haters have never contributed a dime to the tournament, but see it easy to sling the mud.......I'm not saying the people who did get short-changed (VIP seating, non-payment, etc.) don't have a beef, but not the others...

Anyway, when you mess with people's money, it becomes as serious as a heart attack for some........as you can see, most people at AZB cannot look past the negativity of lies, not paying the people on time, and broken promises.....

As to your advice, I don't see him taking any of it.....Barry would not be Barry if he didn't act as Barry does......Call it ego, call it a leopard that does not change his spots, whatever......the only change will come if he actually does abandon the tournament......

Well put. I would think you are in the majority.
 
Thanks to a number of AZB forums participants who decided to jump in and go after Barry Behrman in response to the January 8 post by leminham in respect of non payment of prize money from the US Open it would seem that all have been paid. At least all who felt it necessary to go public and ask for help from the many AZBer’s who provided a solid front that would not be denied.

I must admit up front that it is hard to have any empathy or sympathy for Barry but I found that as I read and contributed to the posts on this subject, listened to the recent interview he did on American Billiards Radio (great interview, Mike and Jerry) that I did.

I was surprised that I did because I have always viewed his participation in the various aspects of the US Open as the biggest negative to the whole event.

He blathers on ad nauseam, shuffling his papers, losing his thought process and generally taking away from the enjoyment of watching. His attempts to add his human interest aspect, seemingly fueled by his penchant for rye and coke, are unwatchable.

As I listened to the radio interview I felt that he was setting up to do it again. In the radio interview he talks of his new relationships with mayor, hotel, event location and others all clearly geared to sell hope and garner support from any doubters. It was too much. I found myself hoping that he would fail and get the heck out. Within a moment I realized I was wrong to think this way. I am not intemperate nor am I mean spirited by nature and I am rarely so uncharitable toward others as to think this way so I decided I should rethink my position.

Here is a man who started this event almost 40 years ago. He nurtured it and saw it grow into one of the premier events in the pool world. He would seem to be a salesman, an optimist and a risk taker by nature. When the initial problems (he mentions 9-11, hurricanes etc.) arose he kept charging ahead leveraging his main business, Q Masters, to supplement the shortfall of revenue at the Open. It seems that the ability to supplement the revenue shortfall has deteriorated to a point that for the past few years it became necessary to pay the participants later and later. I do not know if he would have paid everyone this year without the pressure exerted by AZBer’s but I suspect he might have done it eventually (at least I would like to think so). It seems he cannot bring himself to change the business model, reduce the added money, re-energize the sponsors and re-market the event to a wider fan base (live and broadcast). In fact it might be too late, too many bridges burned, too many promises not kept and no credibility left.

However, having said all this, what I really see is an old man desperate to somehow preserve his legacy and restore his shattered reputation before it is too late. I have empathy for that man and I hope he can pull it off.

Advice: Barry, lose the ego, commit to a proper business plan. Commit to an event that will be fan friendly, both live and broadcast. Put in place proper assurances that the venue will support these objectives. Involve the pool community by being open, transparent and willing to openly communicate with them. Solicit support from the many ambassadors (AZBer’s provides a vast base) that would market this event to other pool enthusiasts, league friends and others world-wide through social media. Leverage this groundswell of support to re-energize sponsors and the hosting community. Start on this path early (in days not months), be open to input from others (come on these forums and answer when questioned) and, speaking only for myself, commit to staying away from the front of the camera until it is time to present the trophy to the 2015 US Open champion.

I have to agree. He obviously has a lifelong passion for the sport of pool and this event. I think it would nice if general admissions could see pool played as it was at the Chesapeake convention center and it would be nice if the pool league systems advertised to their members about the event. Some solidarity and sharing across the industry might contribute some growth and togetherness. I'm sure that the open has made changes due to that not being the case and that is a shame.
 
The solution is simple. Barry should be the Barker, not the Banker.

The simple truth of it is, and I'm sure I'll get railed for it, is that a trained monkey could have been successful doing the Open through the early years when the room was new, The Color of Money and cocaine years... But now he has a dated room, a dated business model and all of those that hung around because the party never stopped have left the building. The world changed, Barry and Q-Masters haven't gotten the memo yet.
 
I admit a part of me feels the same way; there is empathy because he has kept the US OPEN going for so long; added big money to it, and I suppose he did what he could year after year; even "robbing Peter to pay Paul...."

A lot of the naysayers and haters have never contributed a dime to the tournament, but see it easy to sling the mud.......I'm not saying the people who did get short-changed (VIP seating, non-payment, etc.) don't have a beef, but not the others...

Anyway, when you mess with people's money, it becomes as serious as a heart attack for some........as you can see, most people at AZB cannot look past the negativity of lies, not paying the people on time, and broken promises.....

As to your advice, I don't see him taking any of it.....Barry would not be Barry if he didn't act as Barry does......Call it ego, call it a leopard that does not change his spots, whatever......the only change will come if he actually does abandon the tournament......

If that happens will the tournament continue?
 
If that happens will the tournament continue?

I think that's a very easy question to answer......no....how could it? It has taken him adding money that he can't get in sponsorship........not many people would do that.....so....how does he look now? It kinda changes the perception doesn't it? It doesn't make the seating arrangement problems go away or some of the other things.....but then you have that.....for 80 big ones.......that speaks loud.
 
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I don't know the man and I have only watched a small video of him talking and it was ugly. If he is an abuser of chemical substances then he needs to get professional help. If he can't do it by him self then those that love him and call them selves friends need to step up and encourage him. No one can function and make good plans and decisions with and altered mind and perception of reality. That's why it's called dope.
 
the answer is blowin in the wind

If that happens will the tournament continue?

I suspect not; many have already pointed to the problem of actually making money on producing such a tournament.....

I guess that's part of why I have some empathy for BB; he might really love the game to continue putting on a large tournament such as this when he might already know it's a losing proposition.....even if he's doing it for his ego, he's still putting in a lot of money out of his own pocket.....
 
i always appreciate your poignant, open-minded posts.

and you've obviously never tried to speak with Barry.... you should try it some time, when you have absolutely nothing better to do & a little PMS is kicking in, to aid those who have little recourse. but you're gonna need to be three-sheets-to-the-wind to stay off-track & bring it full-circle. ;)

inside of 2 minutes' conversation, you can peg him. i'm in furniture & its commercial real estate sales. and i've bought a lot of cars. and the kudos that i will extend to him is:

i have NEVER, in my lifetime, encountered a better bullshit artist.

but you can't bullshit a bullshitter - . i don't doubt that his original intentions 39yrs ago were for good. his ego has surpassed pool, because he has absolutely nothing else left. his children don't even associate with him now. (i'm a little unclear on the dog's current status.)

i can't think of ONE thing he stated in his two ABR interviews, that is true. well ok, he's signed an iron-clad Sheraton contract w/ terms of 100% prepaid @ 30 days advance - so no one will know till OCT 1ish (if/when the check clears) if there's even a venue....

he's spun-it to the point that it's caught up with him & now everyone in 4 cities knows it. he's his own worst enemy. it's quite sad, actually. cause it didn't have to be this hard, and is easily fixed.

i have a buyer for him, who would completely save the Open & restore faith. and he's not interested.

as for everyone who's cheering all of his "added money" - from the past 3 yrs, how much is outstanding to Shane? and his Q Masters employees? and his Q Masters vendors?

but it's ok, as long as Barry gets paid.


PL <---- i need a little "Sympathy" music right now.
 
....In the radio interview he talks of his new relationships with mayor, hotel, event location and others all clearly geared to sell hope and garner support from any doubters....

to be precise, it was the Mayor, City Council, Chamber of Commerce, and Sheraton Waterside, of Norfolk. and yes, there was a meeting. this much, is true.
 
It's really a little early after the 100 days it took until everyone got paid for the Barry huggers to start on next years........I don't even know what to call it. Oh, and IMO if it wasn't for PINKLADY there would still be players not paid. Johnnyt
 
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