A none murdered animal cue please.

Every one of the earth's natural resources needs to be managed for effective conservation... elephants and their ivory tusks are no exception. Some portions of some natural resources need to be harvested for the betterment of the whole resource. That's why we have state Fish and Wildlife departments.. and African nations have similar departments to manage their wild animal resources... whether it be elephants, lions, gazelles or the like.

I have elephant ivory in my custom cue... and I offer no apologies for it. It is/was legally obtained.
 
cigardave said:
I have elephant ivory in my custom cue... and I offer no apologies for it. It is/was legally obtained.

To each his own, i didn't mean to tell everyone who doesn't care about ivory in a cue that they are not good persons, i just got frustrated every time i found a cue i liked it was ivory and if i pay 1000$+ for a cue i want to make sure i get one with out ivory.
 
seb9: I saw it on national geographic channel. There was this preservation camp wherein they find dead rhinos. They didn't know who killed em, and found out it was a rogue elephant. So they brought in a bigger elephant to teach the youngun a lesson.

I'll help you look for a cue online. Do you want "cues without ivory" or "cuemakers who don't use ivory"?
 
seb9 said:
Anyone knows good cues that aren't made with dead elephants? can you please suggest me a few if you don't mind? Thanks.

By the way, I'm not trying to insult anyone, i was just wondering if I'm the only one who cares?
All things (even elephants) die. Some naturally, some not. The same goes for trees. In fact, I've heard that some of the hard woods for butts (and even some shaft woods) are just as endangered as those elephants are.

I don't hear anyone advocating a movement to "ban wood from pool cues."

When the pool world starts using baby seal skin wraps and bald eagle beak inlays, I'll join in the strike. But for now, I'll just watch the world go by...

-td
 
sky.. said:
I'll help you look for a cue online. Do you want "cues without ivory" or "cuemakers who don't use ivory"?


Cue makers if you don't mind :0

And if you personally like certain cues with out ivory and don't mind showing me, then that would be good too :0


Thanks.
 
Besides

I think you would find the ivory used in cues is a small percentage of the ivory products that are produced. You implicated that ivory is only used
in cues, and it is used for many things.

I don't want any animal to be extinct (I'm sure I probably could find one or two though), and support wildlife presevation, but as the world evolves, some animals just won't make it, and that's just life.

A few years back, they were trying to save prairie dogs here in Kansas, now they are overrunning the place. Same with the Bald Eagle, the last couple of years the population is way up. At my mom's apartments, which has a good sized lake with an island in the center, they have spotted 3 Bald Eagles already this year. They land on the island, where many birds go and humans are not permitted there. Filled with trees too.

Some animal populations, left unattended, can overrun areas and cause many more big problems for humans. I don't necessarily agree with hunting for sport. I understand it for survival.
 
I'll play the elephant some 9-Ball in a race to 5, if I win I get his ivory, if he wins he can have mine.

Equality.
 
First of all, your initial post WAS argumentative and accusatory, as another poster said. I am on a diet, and I WAS going to eat a salad tonight, but in your honor, I am gonna eat as much meat as possible.

Also, in your honor I am going to buy a t-shirt form maddox.xmission.com that says "For every animal a vegetarian doesn't eat, I'll eat three!"

ALL YOU HAD TO DO was come on here, and respectfully ask if anyone knew of any cuemakers that use non-animal materials, or who usd all synthetic materials.

But NO, you had to use terminology like "non-murdered animals". Yes, I am insulted. Very much so. People like you pass judgement on people who eat meat and/or kill animals for tool/art use. Guess what? You ain't so innocent yourself.

The grain you most probably eat? Guess how many small field rodents were "murdered" during the harvesting? Oh, and I'll bet you'll say that by choosing those grains to eat, you're doing the "least possible harm".

Guess what? You're not. The "least possible harm" you could do would be to grow your own food, and hand harvest it. But that's too much trouble. You are making a conscious effort to do more harm than you are capable of doing. In effect, you are doing the same thing as a poacher. But because you make a relatively small effort, you feel entitled to pass judgement on us.

Vegetarians make a personal choice, which would be fine if so many of them weren't militant, and tried to push it in our faces. Vegetarians COULD exist harmoniously with nature if they wanted to drastically change their lives. But again, your sanctimonious attitudes only extend so far as is "convenient" for you.

If you want to debate this, I'll be happy to eat your lunch and show you that your life is not as eco-friendly as you thought. :D :D :D

Russ
 
Snapshot9 said:
I think you would find the ivory used in cues is a small percentage of the ivory products that are produced. You implicated that ivory is only used
in cues, and it is used for many things.


I must have said it wrong then because i know they use ivory for other things then cues...
 
Russ Chewning said:
But because you make a relatively small effort, you feel entitled to pass judgement on us.

Hello friend,

I am sorry but you don't even know who i am or what i do for my convictions :0 it's not small effort, it's life altering.

And also, i am sorry if i sounded like i am passing judgment but if you read the whole thread i explained my self and i really am not here to bash on anyone who doesn't care about ivory in their cues.
 
seb9 said:
So, do you guys know of any quality cues that doesn't contain ivory and such?
Any cuemaker will make you a cue not containing ivory. If you want a ivory substitute they will use it. If you only want hardwood inlays they will use it. I dont understand what you are trying to say with including cuemakers in this disscussion. Are you saying you wont buy a cue from a maker thats uses ivory?
 
seb9 said:
I have not been able to find a McDermott cue that isn't made with dead animals which is a shame because these cues could be made with out it...

And they have some beautiful designs.

What are you talking about? Which McDermott cues have you been looking at? I was able to find only one cue on their website that "said" it had ebony and ivory inlays but I'm not convinced that it is actually real ivory.
 
seb9 said:

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This one is beautiful, it's too bad. :D :D :D
 
smokeandapancak said:
no dead animals......
what kind of tip do you want to use?

Actually, most tips are made with artificial leather.

Made from plants not from skin.
 
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