Action - EARL VS KEITH!!!

DeadPoked said:
I just got word that the match has been postponed until this Saturday. Which sucks because I go to work at 7pm on Saturday. I could go in later on but the UFC is also showing for free on TV that night and I am looking forward to seeing that as well. Sucks either way... I'll keep you guys up-to-date.
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Thank you for the info. Johnnyt
 
Southpaw said:
I like Keiths end of this. He is a great player and will never give up. I saw him make 7 balls on the break playing the 12 ball ghost a few years ago....the guy can play too. JMO.

Southpaw
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This was in Athens Ga, correct. I was there also. Couldn't believe it, he didn't even have to run the 5 balls out. They just reracked them.
 
arsenius said:
Just speculation, but is it possible that with his Cuetec sponsorship he wasn't allowed to gamble? Maybe now that he's not with Cuetec he can gamble again, and also needs to to make ends meet again.
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That too could well be. Thanks.
 
Southpaw said:
I like Keiths end of this. He is a great player and will never give up. I saw him make 7 balls on the break playing the 12 ball ghost a few years ago....the guy can play too. JMO.

Southpaw
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It seems to me that Keith peaks one week out of every year and literally plays like God. I mean, play as good as it is humanly possible to play... I've personally seen him do that twice, once here in Columbus and the other at the DCC 6-7 years ago. The other 51 weeks is a different story all together.... His normal gear is way off of that pace. Once in Amarillo, TX he was playing the 10 ball ghost on a loose Gold Crown and couldn't even come close to getting there. Yeah, the 10 ball ghost is a pretty stout bet but then we renegotiated to the 9 ball ghost and he couldn't get there either. Bart had to come off the bench to save the day. It's either hot or cold with Keith and nothing in between. If Keith catches his once a year gear he would rob Earl playing even the way Earl has been playing as of late. If Keith has been playing some and is comfortable, he should have the best of it playing Earl with the last 3 though. That is if Earl repeats his performance with BJ....

Saw
 
jay helfert said:
I'll make a sweat bet on Keith in this match if anyone is interested.
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I'd go 50 on Earl with you when I know if it's a 10 ahead game. Johnnyt
 
The Saw said:
You've obviously never been on the road with him! Trust me, he's a champion at making bad games....

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I have seen him put himself in a bind once or twice myself. Soemtimes he comes with the game to outrun it but he doesn't steal very often.
 
JohnnyT it is supposed to be 10 ahead on the 9 footer with Earl giving the last 3. You guys could bet on those conditions and if they happen to change the format I'll update this thread and let both of you know.
 
Johnnyt said:
I'd go 50 on Earl with you when I know if it's a 10 ahead game. Johnnyt
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Johnny, I don't know how long the sets are and I don't care. I'll just bet you 50 Keith gets the cash. And we can make the same bet on every set they play. Okay?
 
Pinocchio said:
Keith went off twice to Chris Bartram at DCC last year. It was sad he looked helpless at times but he would come back with more money an do a repeat. I believe if Earl gets where he can knock off 3 or 4 of these shortstops in a row giving up weight I believe his game will jump up big time. Earl didn't used to be good he used to be great an I believe Earl still has a little left in the tank.
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Yeah, I lost two bills on the first go around. Keith has a huge break and can flat run out but he gets out of line a little more than players like CB.
 
Snapshot9 said:
But how many times do you think that Earl would turn over the 7,8, or 9 to Keith to shoot? Not hardly any, if that. When you get to a certain speed, which both are, getting the tail end balls of the rack just doesn't count for much because you never get to shoot at them.

Another way to look at it, is how many times do you think that Keith would miss after making the 6 ball and not get to the 9 ball if there was no spot?

I think the 6-8 balls are pretty irrelevant for A+ players and above. I would prefer to have games on the wire, which is a sure win, rather than a possibility of a win, depending on how good your opponent shot, and if you got to get a shot at a spotted ball to begin with.

It's pretty obvious you are not going to shoot at all, or get 1 trip to the table in this matchup per game.

I thought Earl was being sponsored by a cuemaker now? But, yeah, gambling can 'Shock' you back into your game pretty fast, providing the motivation that tournaments don't do after awhile.
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You are pretty much right except... if the spot shows up once an hour in 5 hours that is a 10 ahead match. each game is a 2 game swing. If the spot shows up every 2 hours, in 10 hours that 10 ahead. You are right the spot don't show up much but it does not have to
 
thebighurt said:
You are pretty much right except... if the spot shows up once an hour in 5 hours that is a 10 ahead match. each game is a 2 game swing. If the spot shows up every 2 hours, in 10 hours that 10 ahead. You are right the spot don't show up much but it does not have to
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all true BUT they are playing 9ball and i heard they were playing 10 ball.in fact the last 3 is huge playing 9 ball vs 10 ball.with his break that would make keith the favorite here.
 
Also I think everybody is overlookig 1 factor. Earl if he is on and in gear will run over pretty much anybody and giving guys like B.J. and Keith those spots won't matter. BUT if Earl is dogging it he may not win even. I personally think Earl wants to get back in stroke but at the same time imagine if he played B.J. or Keith even and lost!! Do you know what that would do to earl's mind. he would be finished. I think this is why the spots. If he loses he can tell himself that he didn't play good and the spot hurt him and his mind can accept that, but if he lost even....BOOOOM!! He knows that if he keeps playing these type game eventually he will catch his old gear and than that will pump him up he gave these guys that type of weight and still won. As far as his backers, earl will have no problem coming up with backers because they know that he may lose a few but eventually..cha ching!! I think these spots are just for his own peace of mind while he is trying to get back to old form.
 
dimes33 said:
all true BUT they are playing 9ball and i heard they were playing 10 ball.in fact the last 3 is huge playing 9 ball vs 10 ball.with his break that would make keith the favorite here.
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C'mon dimes, you and I have a game. Now quit knocking my action. :)
 
DeadPoked said:
JohnnyT it is supposed to be 10 ahead on the 9 footer with Earl giving the last 3. You guys could bet on those conditions and if they happen to change the format I'll update this thread and let both of you know.
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Thank you DeadPoked. Johnnyt
 
thebighurt said:
Also I think everybody is overlookig 1 factor. Earl if he is on and in gear will run over pretty much anybody and giving guys like B.J. and Keith those spots won't matter. BUT if Earl is dogging it he may not win even. I personally think Earl wants to get back in stroke but at the same time imagine if he played B.J. or Keith even and lost!! Do you know what that would do to earl's mind. he would be finished. I think this is why the spots. If he loses he can tell himself that he didn't play good and the spot hurt him and his mind can accept that, but if he lost even....BOOOOM!! He knows that if he keeps playing these type game eventually he will catch his old gear and than that will pump him up he gave these guys that type of weight and still won. As far as his backers, earl will have no problem coming up with backers because they know that he may lose a few but eventually..cha ching!! I think these spots are just for his own peace of mind while he is trying to get back to old form.
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Interesting post here. You may have something though, I will concede that.
 
jay helfert said:
Johnny, I don't know how long the sets are and I don't care. I'll just bet you 50 Keith gets the cash. And we can make the same bet on every set they play. Okay?
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I'll try Earl for 50 a set through 3 sets. If they play more than 3 sets I want the option of pulling out. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
I'll try Earl for 50 a set through 3 sets. If they play more than 3 sets I want the option of pulling out. Johnnyt
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Okay, you have a bet. I got Keith for 50 a set, up to three sets. And you've got the other guy, whats-his-name. :)
 
jay helfert said:
Okay, you have a bet. I got Keith for 50 a set, up to three sets. And you've got the other guy, whats-his-name. :)
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That's a bet Pete. Johnnyt
 
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