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Aiming Systems - The End Justifies the Means
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If pockets were smaller and balls were larger, CTE still makes all shots. CTE in its purest form is not a discrete system.
One day this will be understood and that day is not that far off.
Stan Shuffett
Mr. Shuffett,
I have been playing for 46 yrs. thru GB & "fraction overlap'. What version of 'CTE' would you suggest that might convert me the soonest.
Thanks in advance,
Rick
Somebody told me once...
Use a touch of inside because you are always OVER CUTTING or UNDER CUTTING the shot..
Use a touch of inside because you are always OVER CUTTING or UNDER CUTTING the shot..
calibrate the shot angle to a feeling generated by seeing a certain connection
The best way I can describe the "dead stroke" phenomenon is that I am "feeling the angles with my eyes".....(I use a specific part on the cue ball connected to either the center or edge of the object ball to achieve this).....visually your feedback will always create a feeling in your body...you see a snake you may feel fear/anxious etc...you see an ex wife (you may feel the same
)....when you see a parent, flower, az post, etc. you will feel a stimulus of some kind either consciously or unconsciously.....when you are calibrating angles created by connecting the cue ball to the object ball you also get a feeling....after making the shot a confident feeling is reinforced and likewise when you don't make a shot a feeling of doubt/indecision is reinforced.
The most important thing (in my opinion) is how a player learns to calibrate the shot angle to a feeling generated by seeing a certain connection between the Cue Ball AND the Object Ball.....a "Connection System" if you will....this is why all aiming systems "can" work, but ONLY if the angles are calibrated in some way/shape/form to "how your eyes see the correlation between the two balls forming the correct angle"....there's more than one way to do this.....I can make many "aiming system" work because my eyes already know the correlation between the two balls (I'm creating the angle, then "allowing" the aiming system to work"....so I can "feel the shots with my eyes"....this may sound esoteric, but I assure you it's not.
The best way I can describe the "dead stroke" phenomenon is that I am "feeling the angles with my eyes".....(I use a specific part on the cue ball connected to either the center or edge of the object ball to achieve this).....visually your feedback will always create a feeling in your body...you see a snake you may feel fear/anxious etc...you see an ex wife (you may feel the same
)....when you see a parent, flower, az post, etc. you will feel a stimulus of some kind either consciously or unconsciously.....when you are calibrating angles created by connecting the cue ball to the object ball you also get a feeling....after making the shot a confident feeling is reinforced and likewise when you don't make a shot a feeling of doubt/indecision is reinforced.The most important thing (in my opinion) is how a player learns to calibrate the shot angle to a feeling generated by seeing a certain connection between the Cue Ball AND the Object Ball.....a "Connection System" if you will....this is why all aiming systems "can" work, but ONLY if the angles are calibrated in some way/shape/form to "how your eyes see the correlation between the two balls forming the correct angle"....there's more than one way to do this.....I can make many "aiming system" work because my eyes already know the correlation between the two balls (I'm creating the angle, then "allowing" the aiming system to work"....so I can "feel the shots with my eyes"....this may sound esoteric, but I assure you it's not.
Practicing leads to PROGRESS...trying to just "figure it out" doesn't
I would agree, but I hope people don't learn how to drive like this...there would be a lot of "pile ups" if they don't "learn" how to drive FIRST.
"Practice DOES NOT make perfect.....Perfect Practice makes Perfect"
I think it's beneficial to try to learn in this format/forum, but it's ESSENTIAL to try it out on the TABLE.....it's almost impossible to hide whether you're doing this or not by the questions you will be inclined to ask....I know because I can see both sides of it....the side of Research AND the side of Development. When you are practicing and your "mind's eye" is processing through actual Pool Shots....your questions will lack analytical confusion and be more in line with "I'm doing this and getting these results...how do I get the results I'm striving for".....this leads to Progress...the other doesn't.
I would agree, but I hope people don't learn how to drive like this...there would be a lot of "pile ups" if they don't "learn" how to drive FIRST.
"Practice DOES NOT make perfect.....Perfect Practice makes Perfect"
I think it's beneficial to try to learn in this format/forum, but it's ESSENTIAL to try it out on the TABLE.....it's almost impossible to hide whether you're doing this or not by the questions you will be inclined to ask....I know because I can see both sides of it....the side of Research AND the side of Development. When you are practicing and your "mind's eye" is processing through actual Pool Shots....your questions will lack analytical confusion and be more in line with "I'm doing this and getting these results...how do I get the results I'm striving for".....this leads to Progress...the other doesn't.
I used to sit and talk with Charlie at Valley Forge. Learned alot about pool and a few other things. Charlie is great.
Yes, I agree Lou. I use 90/90 for almost all shots, and the SEE system for long rail banks. I don't claim these aiming systems are better than others. They are just better for me. Regardless of how you aim, you still have to put in the table time. No shortcuts, except because we are all different, one system makes more sense and we can advance quicker because it fits our particular mechanics or the way we see the shots. I agree, no kool -aid. :grin:
CJ, Thanks for your comments. It's great to see a player of your talent and knowledge helping others. I'm also glad to hear you're working on your game again. Hope to see you at Tunica next year! :grin:
.hitting the cue ball in the Center will NEVER allow this 100%
When I was an up and coming player I ask my road partner "Omaha John" (one of the best unknown players in the country) What kind of system do you use to aim and he said Kentucky windage ...{the "wind" if you click on the link would represent squirt/veer/deflection}...but the most important thing is learning how to maximize the ZONE of the pocket to give yourself MORE margin for error....this can be done by Veering and/or Spinning the cue ball in a certain, consistent way that will make the ball go one way 100% of the time....hitting the cue ball in the Center will not inable this 100%, so there will always be less margin for error in your ball pocketing.
When I was an up and coming player I ask my road partner "Omaha John" (one of the best unknown players in the country) What kind of system do you use to aim and he said Kentucky windage ...{the "wind" if you click on the link would represent squirt/veer/deflection}...but the most important thing is learning how to maximize the ZONE of the pocket to give yourself MORE margin for error....this can be done by Veering and/or Spinning the cue ball in a certain, consistent way that will make the ball go one way 100% of the time....hitting the cue ball in the Center will not inable this 100%, so there will always be less margin for error in your ball pocketing.
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so do you know of any other techniques you care to share with us that we might not know about?
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Make sure you "real eyes" that you are in control of the game
Make sure you "real eyes" that you are in control of the game and it's up to you to find what you like best. My suggestion is you find a particular angle and a particular way of hitting the ball that YOU like best. Here's an example of one angle that gives me the most flexibility and seems to come up in many different variations....I can hit all these shots cuing the ball slightly to the inside, but for this example I use "natural" english to show how much flexibility you will have using approximately a "half ball hit" (center to edge).
CLICK THIS LINK OR The Logo to See More of CJ's Secrets
Make sure you "real eyes" that you are in control of the game and it's up to you to find what you like best. My suggestion is you find a particular angle and a particular way of hitting the ball that YOU like best. Here's an example of one angle that gives me the most flexibility and seems to come up in many different variations....I can hit all these shots cuing the ball slightly to the inside, but for this example I use "natural" english to show how much flexibility you will have using approximately a "half ball hit" (center to edge).
CLICK THIS LINK OR The Logo to See More of CJ's Secrets
tretching and improving circulation is the key my friend.
Shake your hands after any physical exercises or work like you're throwing water off your fingers.....quick and loose and relaxed....do it at your sides, and over your head....do it and count to 50 seconds.....now stretch your fingers back towards you on a table or on the floor and then turn them around and stretch them the other way....count to 10 each way....circle your arms forward, then backward 10 times apiece....do this in the morning when you wake up and after you're done working.
If you feel you need a supplement I recommend .Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM Suplements CLICK THIS FOR MORE....I take it everyday because of my martial arts...I show all of these exercises in my DVD, but you can start right away.....stretching and improving circulation is the key my friend. :wink:
Shake your hands after any physical exercises or work like you're throwing water off your fingers.....quick and loose and relaxed....do it at your sides, and over your head....do it and count to 50 seconds.....now stretch your fingers back towards you on a table or on the floor and then turn them around and stretch them the other way....count to 10 each way....circle your arms forward, then backward 10 times apiece....do this in the morning when you wake up and after you're done working.
If you feel you need a supplement I recommend .Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM Suplements CLICK THIS FOR MORE....I take it everyday because of my martial arts...I show all of these exercises in my DVD, but you can start right away.....stretching and improving circulation is the key my friend. :wink:
"The Connection System" and how the "Touch of Inside" creates the Three Part Pocket
Those are in my original series, CJ's Ultimate Pool Secrets. The new series has "The Connection System" and how the "Touch of Inside" creates (in your perspective of Zones) the "Three Part Pocket System", giving a player much more margin for error when they utilize 3 parts of the pocket, rather than the standard 2 (center and one side).
The pre shot routine in the original series is also expanded on by showing how to "begin with the end in mind", creating the body angles and aiming ABOVE the shot, before getting down to play the shot.
Your PSR and aiming system
Those are in my original series, CJ's Ultimate Pool Secrets. The new series has "The Connection System" and how the "Touch of Inside" creates (in your perspective of Zones) the "Three Part Pocket System", giving a player much more margin for error when they utilize 3 parts of the pocket, rather than the standard 2 (center and one side).
The pre shot routine in the original series is also expanded on by showing how to "begin with the end in mind", creating the body angles and aiming ABOVE the shot, before getting down to play the shot.
I just ordered your "Ultimate Pool Secrets" from your website yeaterday does this include the "Conection System" , "Touch of Inside" & "Three Part Pocket System"?
The new DVD's are in the Post Production stage and will be out in about 30-40 days
It has a section on the 3 Part Pocket System and 52 other things including the Ultimate Aiming System and the "English Teacher" using tips for english application.
The new DVD's are in the Post Production stage and will be out in about 30-40 days.....they have the Connection System and the Touch of Inside, and I"ve described a lot on AZ's Aiming section in the last few weeks.....thanks and enjoy the DVD's they will be there by Friday I would guess.
It has a section on the 3 Part Pocket System and 52 other things including the Ultimate Aiming System and the "English Teacher" using tips for english application.
The new DVD's are in the Post Production stage and will be out in about 30-40 days.....they have the Connection System and the Touch of Inside, and I"ve described a lot on AZ's Aiming section in the last few weeks.....thanks and enjoy the DVD's they will be there by Friday I would guess.
CJ's touch of inside
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I have enjoyed reading the posts on the thread of John Smith and C.Deuel
regarding CJ's touch of inside technic!
What really amazes me is how much problems people seem to have with it:
1)This technic is simple! Value is GREAT! It is different concerning most intermediate player's approach as you only have to adjust for the deflection of the cue ball that is a result of the slight touch of insight on the CB in combination with more ACCELERATION in your stroke.
A) no need to adjust for SIT but for deflection of the CB only,
as the amount of SIT is so little you can ignore it
B) the touch of inside English combined with the acceleration takes away the throw effect (Again CIT) on the OB and therefore makes it in fact easier to make the OB!
C) you can create angles for your cue ball path you never dreamed they were possible and can kill the cue ball (speed of CB) better than with any other technic I am aware of!
You can use the same technic with outside English and aiming to overcut it on long distances as the squirt of the Cb will be to the left with right hand side and vice versa -But problem is that the cue ball will really be speeding off more after having touched a rail instead of get slower after having touched a rail with a touch of inside. So playing position using only one rail I highly favor the touch of inside!!! Using multiple rails for position, it works good for a touch of outside too.
Using the same method with applying no English takes away a part of the throw (collision induced throw) too because of the acceleration and therefore makes it easier to pot the OB too. This is good for playing positional shots too! (position using one rail mostly)
That#s by the way how SNOOKER PLAYER manage to shoot so precisely. It works with LD shafts and with standard shafts- it is just a different amount of deflection that you have to adjust for-once got it, it really is easy and will help anyone's game!!!
It seems as if people did not really take their time at the table to try this but posting their thoughts/questions/assumptions on it without having had table time on this topic! Now I seem to understand why players seem to have problems with aiming technics like CTE/Pro1 or mine, the SEE-System...taling about time to get familiar wíth something new at the table and making your own personal needed adjustments...at the table not in front of your laptop...
Adding this tool to my SEE-SYSTEM or CTE-PRO1 or ULTIMATE SYSTEM OF CJ is ****ing strong! Just at the moment I feel like no one can beat me:smile: I know that there still some outside but...they are getting less:wink:
I know that what Cj uses here is not an aiming system and I know his ultimate system approach I just wanted to say: Try this at the table and adjust to your own needs such as stroke etc.!!!!
What seems important for me using his touch of inside technic is to really
accelerate your stroke on your way to the cue ball and stroke with the cue on a plane level (cue as parallel as possible to the table 's surface)
so no pendulum stroke as your hand goes up to your chest at the finish position.
It seems to be more consistant (for me personally) with a stroke where you drop your shoulder (on draw strokes at least if not at all strokes even, which is fine for me) By the way some of the greatest instructors in snooker teach to do so too.
Here is a link to the greatest snooker web site that I happened to find last week with the most of free info I have ever seen!!!:
http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/
Click at coaching material too!to have a look at all free stuff (pdf booklets for exercises/ drills/mindset/to download too! incl. stance!!!!grip!!!!!stroke!!!!
cue action: http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102&Itemid=119
grip: http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=129&Itemid=129 http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=156&Itemid=130
There is a lot of the stuff that CJ and I tell their/my students to do too such as look last to the OB ball one slow back swing, pause (individual time) and shoot! Best aim check and stroke teacher ever!!!!
Do not look away from the OB while doing this! Taking the booklets you will have material for the next 5 years to work on.
AND WHAT REALLY IS OBVIOUS: SNOOKER PLAYERS SEEM TO PUT QUALITY TIME IN THEIR TRAINING AND THIS TIME IS WELL STRUCTURED LOOK AT THE DRILLS AND FORGET ANYTHING (MOST OF YOU) HAVE DONE TRAINING POOL! THAT'S THE WAY YOU GET BETTER IN POOL TOO!!!
Combining this dedicated training with a modern systematic approach for aiming such as CTE, Cjs ULTIMATE AIMING; or my SEE-SYSTEM
really makes you a great player!!!
BTW, I REMEMBER ME TRAINING 10 hours and more A DAY ON FREE DAYS OR WHEN I WAS STUDDYING :wink:
I MEAN TRAINING POOL ON MY OWN (ALONE) AT THE TABLE!!! Something like this has disappeared in the last 10-20 years it seems to me.
OK this were my 2 cents!
Applause and thanks to CJ for posting here!
EKKES
OK
I have enjoyed reading the posts on the thread of John Smith and C.Deuel
regarding CJ's touch of inside technic!
What really amazes me is how much problems people seem to have with it:
1)This technic is simple! Value is GREAT! It is different concerning most intermediate player's approach as you only have to adjust for the deflection of the cue ball that is a result of the slight touch of insight on the CB in combination with more ACCELERATION in your stroke.
A) no need to adjust for SIT but for deflection of the CB only,
as the amount of SIT is so little you can ignore it
B) the touch of inside English combined with the acceleration takes away the throw effect (Again CIT) on the OB and therefore makes it in fact easier to make the OB!
C) you can create angles for your cue ball path you never dreamed they were possible and can kill the cue ball (speed of CB) better than with any other technic I am aware of!
You can use the same technic with outside English and aiming to overcut it on long distances as the squirt of the Cb will be to the left with right hand side and vice versa -But problem is that the cue ball will really be speeding off more after having touched a rail instead of get slower after having touched a rail with a touch of inside. So playing position using only one rail I highly favor the touch of inside!!! Using multiple rails for position, it works good for a touch of outside too.
Using the same method with applying no English takes away a part of the throw (collision induced throw) too because of the acceleration and therefore makes it easier to pot the OB too. This is good for playing positional shots too! (position using one rail mostly)
That#s by the way how SNOOKER PLAYER manage to shoot so precisely. It works with LD shafts and with standard shafts- it is just a different amount of deflection that you have to adjust for-once got it, it really is easy and will help anyone's game!!!
It seems as if people did not really take their time at the table to try this but posting their thoughts/questions/assumptions on it without having had table time on this topic! Now I seem to understand why players seem to have problems with aiming technics like CTE/Pro1 or mine, the SEE-System...taling about time to get familiar wíth something new at the table and making your own personal needed adjustments...at the table not in front of your laptop...
Adding this tool to my SEE-SYSTEM or CTE-PRO1 or ULTIMATE SYSTEM OF CJ is ****ing strong! Just at the moment I feel like no one can beat me:smile: I know that there still some outside but...they are getting less:wink:
I know that what Cj uses here is not an aiming system and I know his ultimate system approach I just wanted to say: Try this at the table and adjust to your own needs such as stroke etc.!!!!
What seems important for me using his touch of inside technic is to really
accelerate your stroke on your way to the cue ball and stroke with the cue on a plane level (cue as parallel as possible to the table 's surface)
so no pendulum stroke as your hand goes up to your chest at the finish position.
It seems to be more consistant (for me personally) with a stroke where you drop your shoulder (on draw strokes at least if not at all strokes even, which is fine for me) By the way some of the greatest instructors in snooker teach to do so too.
Here is a link to the greatest snooker web site that I happened to find last week with the most of free info I have ever seen!!!:
http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/
Click at coaching material too!to have a look at all free stuff (pdf booklets for exercises/ drills/mindset/to download too! incl. stance!!!!grip!!!!!stroke!!!!
cue action: http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102&Itemid=119
grip: http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=129&Itemid=129 http://www.pjnolanschampionsacademy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=156&Itemid=130
There is a lot of the stuff that CJ and I tell their/my students to do too such as look last to the OB ball one slow back swing, pause (individual time) and shoot! Best aim check and stroke teacher ever!!!!
Do not look away from the OB while doing this! Taking the booklets you will have material for the next 5 years to work on.
AND WHAT REALLY IS OBVIOUS: SNOOKER PLAYERS SEEM TO PUT QUALITY TIME IN THEIR TRAINING AND THIS TIME IS WELL STRUCTURED LOOK AT THE DRILLS AND FORGET ANYTHING (MOST OF YOU) HAVE DONE TRAINING POOL! THAT'S THE WAY YOU GET BETTER IN POOL TOO!!!
Combining this dedicated training with a modern systematic approach for aiming such as CTE, Cjs ULTIMATE AIMING; or my SEE-SYSTEM
really makes you a great player!!!
BTW, I REMEMBER ME TRAINING 10 hours and more A DAY ON FREE DAYS OR WHEN I WAS STUDDYING :wink:
I MEAN TRAINING POOL ON MY OWN (ALONE) AT THE TABLE!!! Something like this has disappeared in the last 10-20 years it seems to me.
OK this were my 2 cents!
Applause and thanks to CJ for posting here!
EKKES
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The single most important thing you can do to improve your aiming is not to memorize some secret system, but to OBSERVE the results of each shot. Are you missing too full or too thin? Tells you what you are actually aiming at. If you shoot the same shot 20 times and your aim is true the misses should be equally distributed between full and thin. Then you know the errors are caused by other factors such as an inconsistent stroke. Even an absolute beginner can make use of this advice. It doesn't matter how far they miss, just which side the ball goes to. (Usually too full for amateurs).
This advice is surprisingly difficult to follow. We are not accustomed to carefully observing the results or our shots. When I made a determined effort to apply this I discovered that even on shots where I had a fairly high make percentage I was always going into the full side of the pocket and all of my misses were too full. A simple correction yielded fantastic results, but I had to work hard for months at recalibrating my aim until the correct aim felt natural.
We all need a POST-SHOT ROUTINE just like we need a pre-shot routine. Remain still and see where your tip is pointed. Most important, observe where the object ball went.
I hope that I don't need to add that you need to hit a lot of balls to know where to aim. The "hit a million balls" method that John Schmidt recommends is not realistic for most of us, but even 20 balls each from various angles will tell you a lot. Repeating this every couple of days will help reinforce your learning. Knowing what to do is useless; being able to do it is everything.
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