All Japan Championships

Other good last 64 matches
Waleed Majid -Ko Ping Chung (Clash of 2 relatively new to world scene)
Ramil Gallego -Kiamco (2 Pinoys)

Chang Jung Lin -Dan Jinhu (repeat of recent CBSA 8 ball final)
Aloysius Yap -Archer (The Kid v The Vet)
Archer will have his hands full playing the newly crowned World Junior champ. Kid is quite experienced and has played few times in World Cup of Pool and WC

Matches start 150pm Japan time (1150pm EST) about 10 hrs from now
:D
 
It is high time that pool/billiards has similar player rating like ELO rating for chess. In chess, as soon as you start playing your first tourney, you get an ELO rating which is calculated for your every win loss or draw in tourneys
If there is such a rating then it will be easy to measure the strength of a tourney field by using the average rating and it will be probably the most accurate measure of strength of field
Sadly we do not have such a rating one way may be to use the WPA rankings and find how number of players with WPA ranking points playing in All Japan vs the number of players in US Open. Maybe our resident Nate Silver, AtLarge can help us. Again there may be shortcomings as there are good players not playing in WPA events etc

Anyway I use a simple method-going thru the lists of players for both US Open and All Japan for notable players , 1st tier and 2nd tier world class players
Of course this is subjective method and I may miss out number of names especially most of the Japanese players who I have never heard or -maybe someone more familiar with Japanese players can give an idea. I do agree with you that of the 26 Japanese players in the last 64, most do not have much chance of getting into semis - I based this assumption on fact that Japanese players on won All Japan twice in past 10 to 20 years and both these winners were W9B champs. No offence to Japanese players but I am not knocking them just trying to state the stats :D

Anyway the total number of notable players in both events is around 30 to 40 which says that the strength of field at top is about same.
Again that is just my guesstimate opinion :grin-square:

US Open
Shane Van Boening - USA
Earl Strickland - USA
Efren Reyes - Philippines
Johnny Archer - USA
Francisco Bustamante - Philipines
Mika Immonen - Finland
Darren Appleton - England
Jose Parica - Philippines
Dennis Orcullo - Philippines
Rodney Morris – USA
Niels Feijen – Netherlands
Thorsten Hohmann - Germany
Corey Deuel - USA
Ralf Souquet - Germany
Nick Van Den Berg - Netherlands
Alex Pagulayan - Canada
Warren Kiamco - Philippines
Nikos Economopoulos - Greece
Justin Bergman - USA
Justin Hall - USA
Oscar Dominguez - USA
Jeremey Sossei - USA
Mike Dechaine – USA
Jayson Shaw – Scotland
Jason Klatt – Canada
John Morra - Canada
John Schmidt - USA
Karl Boyes - England
Albin Ouschan – Austria
Stapanov Kontantin – Russia
Waleed Majid
Dennis Grabe
Radoslaw Babica
Imran Majid
Shawn Puttnam
Max Eberle


All Japan
Jeff de Luna
Rodney Morris
Waleed Majid
Ko Ping Chung
Carlo Biado
Takahashi Kunihiko
Ramil Gallego
Warren Kiamco
Li Hewen
Dennis Orcullo
Thorsten
Lo Li Wen
Johann Chua
Radoslaw Babica
Ko Pin Yi
Mika
Antonio Lining
Oi Naoyuki
Ralf
Chang Jung Lin
Dang Jinhu
Johnny Archer
Liu Haitao
Chang Yu Lung
Daryl Peach
Fu Che Wei
Wu Jiaqing
Akagariyama Yukio
Cheng Yu Hsuan
Jeff Ignacio
Aloysius Yap
Raj Hundal
Wang Can
Lee Van

I agree it is similar however with the MC being played top euros and shane not there, if they were then its obviously stronger than US, still give it a slight edge anyway without those guys
 
US Open
Shane Van Boening - USA
Earl Strickland - USA
Efren Reyes - Philippines
Johnny Archer - USA
Francisco Bustamante - Philipines
Mika Immonen - Finland
Darren Appleton - England
Jose Parica - Philippines
Dennis Orcullo - Philippines
Rodney Morris – USA
Niels Feijen – Netherlands
Thorsten Hohmann - Germany
Corey Deuel - USA
Ralf Souquet - Germany
Nick Van Den Berg - Netherlands
Alex Pagulayan - Canada
Warren Kiamco - Philippines
Nikos Economopoulos - Greece
Justin Bergman - USA
Justin Hall - USA
Oscar Dominguez - USA
Jeremey Sossei - USA
Mike Dechaine – USA
Jayson Shaw – Scotland
Jason Klatt – Canada
John Morra - Canada
John Schmidt - USA
Karl Boyes - England
Albin Ouschan – Austria
Stapanov Kontantin – Russia
Waleed Majid
Dennis Grabe
Radoslaw Babica
Imran Majid
Shawn Puttnam
Max Eberle


All Japan
Jeff de Luna
Rodney Morris
Waleed Majid
Ko Ping Chung
Carlo Biado
Takahashi Kunihiko
Ramil Gallego
Warren Kiamco
Li Hewen
Dennis Orcullo
Thorsten
Lo Li Wen
Johann Chua
Radoslaw Babica
Ko Pin Yi
Mika
Antonio Lining
Oi Naoyuki
Ralf
Chang Jung Lin
Dang Jinhu
Johnny Archer
Liu Haitao
Chang Yu Lung
Daryl Peach
Fu Che Wei
Wu Jiaqing
Akagariyama Yukio
Cheng Yu Hsuan
Jeff Ignacio
Aloysius Yap
Raj Hundal
Wang Can
Lee Van

Subtract a dozen names from the US Open, add about a dozen more to the All Japan, and you'd be in the ballpark.
 
It is high time that pool/billiards has similar player rating like ELO rating for chess. In chess, as soon as you start playing your first tourney, you get an ELO rating which is calculated for your every win loss or draw in tourneys
If there is such a rating then it will be easy to measure the strength of a tourney field by using the average rating and it will be probably the most accurate measure of strength of field
Sadly we do not have such a rating one way may be to use the WPA rankings and find how number of players with WPA ranking points playing in All Japan vs the number of players in US Open. Maybe our resident Nate Silver, AtLarge can help us. Again there may be shortcomings as there are good players not playing in WPA events etc

Anyway I use a simple method-going thru the lists of players for both US Open and All Japan for notable players , 1st tier and 2nd tier world class players
Of course this is subjective method and I may miss out number of names especially most of the Japanese players who I have never heard or -maybe someone more familiar with Japanese players can give an idea. I do agree with you that of the 26 Japanese players in the last 64, most do not have much chance of getting into semis - I based this assumption on fact that Japanese players on won All Japan twice in past 10 to 20 years and both these winners were W9B champs. No offence to Japanese players but I am not knocking them just trying to state the stats :D

Anyway the total number of notable players in both events is around 30 to 40 which says that the strength of field at top is about same.
Again that is just my guesstimate opinion :grin-square:

US Open
Shane Van Boening - USA
Earl Strickland - USA
Efren Reyes - Philippines
Johnny Archer - USA
Francisco Bustamante - Philipines
Mika Immonen - Finland
Darren Appleton - England
Jose Parica - Philippines
Dennis Orcullo - Philippines
Rodney Morris – USA
Niels Feijen – Netherlands
Thorsten Hohmann - Germany
Corey Deuel - USA
Ralf Souquet - Germany
Nick Van Den Berg - Netherlands
Alex Pagulayan - Canada
Warren Kiamco - Philippines
Nikos Economopoulos - Greece
Justin Bergman - USA
Justin Hall - USA
Oscar Dominguez - USA
Jeremey Sossei - USA
Mike Dechaine – USA
Jayson Shaw – Scotland
Jason Klatt – Canada
John Morra - Canada
John Schmidt - USA
Karl Boyes - England
Albin Ouschan – Austria
Stapanov Kontantin – Russia
Waleed Majid
Dennis Grabe
Radoslaw Babica
Imran Majid
Shawn Puttnam
Max Eberle


All Japan
Jeff de Luna
Rodney Morris
Waleed Majid
Ko Ping Chung
Carlo Biado
Takahashi Kunihiko
Ramil Gallego
Warren Kiamco
Li Hewen
Dennis Orcullo
Thorsten
Lo Li Wen
Johann Chua
Radoslaw Babica
Ko Pin Yi
Mika
Antonio Lining
Oi Naoyuki
Ralf
Chang Jung Lin
Dang Jinhu
Johnny Archer
Liu Haitao
Chang Yu Lung
Daryl Peach
Fu Che Wei
Wu Jiaqing
Akagariyama Yukio
Cheng Yu Hsuan
Jeff Ignacio
Aloysius Yap
Raj Hundal
Wang Can
Lee Van

Lui Haitao, Li He Wen, Wang Can, Daryl Peach, Ralf Souquet and Raj Hundal also played in the U.S. Open. That might shift the balance of power somewhat to the Open field being stronger.
 
Lot more World Champions on US Open list (even some missing) than All Japan list

Both events are missing many world class elites the other event has/had.

I can see 15+ elite guys in both events that skipped the other and that sucks for both events, the fans, and the sport as a whole. Tournaments are so much cooler when ALL the big guys show up but those events are VERY rare sadly.
 
Kohei is slowww...like many of the Japanese players.

Any know what cue Rodney was shooting with? Looked like a purpleheart handle.
 
some updates:
Rodney Morris is out, lost to Inoue Kohei 11-5.
little Ko lost to Majed, hill-hill.
Biado wins 11-5 over world champion Kunihiko Takahashi.
Ramil "Bebeng" Gallego eliminated fellow Fiilipino, warren Kiamco 11-1.
 
:rolleyes: The next set of matches for the final 64 is about to start in a few minutes (4:10 am US EST). However, I think the organizers are not doing a good job of choosing the more exciting matches to stream on the tv table. The likes of Thorsten, Big Ko, Dennis, Wu, Kuo and Johann Chua are all playing and they choose to live stream Babica vs Takagi?

http://all-jp-billiards-scoring.appspot.com/show/onthehill
 
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I don't believe this
Dennis is behind 0-6 to Teruya. This man Teruya is bad
That is thing about winners break when break is working Boom boom like bad man Gallego almost whitewashing Kiamco earlier. Biado is also bad bad knocking out ex-W9B champ, Kunihiko
Lots of bad men around :D
 
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