allen hopkins billiard payouts 2012

I would venture a guess and say that at the end of the whole Expo Allen does not make even $34,000. Not net at least. If he does...more power to him.
People are always whining about what's wrong with pool and here's a guy who busts his tail to put on an excellent show only to have people question the money payouts. What did you think? That he was doing this out of charity?

How much are you willing to bet?
 
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so just because I question the numbers, ( I did so in a respectful way too, or tried too ) don't just berate me for it.

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There's really no way to question the numbers at a tournament without being confrontational. As soon as you challenged the payouts you were taking a side.

As long as the entry fee and prize fund are public knowledge I don't give a hoot how much the promoter makes. No one's forcing anyone to participate. Pool has enough trouble with the bad apples who slow pay or don't pay.

Also, Allen has a long track record of being one of the good guys, so that explains a lot of the reaction.
 
well some of you, leehayes, smoothstroke, illgotten gain, and alstl and maybe a couple more, don't comprehend what you read, or put words or meanings in my mouth, that I didn't say!

first, reread my original post, I didn't call allen bad names or say anything bad about the event at all, other then saying wow! I did say that the promoter should make money, nor did I expect allen or any other person to do it for nothing! I also said that a lot of hard work goes into it as well. REREAD!

my reply to all your comments restated the same thing, plus I said it sounded like a fun event. I even tried to state that I was trying to be respectful about what I was saying too. but you 4 monkeys I mentioned above don't seem to comprehend much english. you just want to bash and flame someone becuase they asks questions about the payouts. you aren't allen's cpa's for the event, nor do you know anymore then anyone else about what he makes for this event. so like I said before, only allen knows that fact. just because I ask about it doesn't mean I am the devil! lol

in closing the beaten horse thread, I will say thanks to the folks that were nice an understood what I asked and responded with their thoughts on the event. I have never been to this particuler event, but your comments were informative for me to decide whether to attend. I have no ill will torwards allen hopkins, or his event, he is a legend in the pool world. just like someone said earlier, no one has their arm twisted to attend.
 
well some of you, leehayes, smoothstroke, illgotten gain, and alstl and maybe a couple more, don't comprehend what you read, or put words or meanings in my mouth, that I didn't say!

first, reread my original post, I didn't call allen bad names or say anything bad about the event at all, other then saying wow! I did say that the promoter should make money, nor did I expect allen or any other person to do it for nothing! I also said that a lot of hard work goes into it as well. REREAD!

my reply to all your comments restated the same thing, plus I said it sounded like a fun event. I even tried to state that I was trying to be respectful about what I was saying too. but you 4 monkeys I mentioned above don't seem to comprehend much english. you just want to bash and flame someone becuase they asks questions about the payouts. you aren't allen's cpa's for the event, nor do you know anymore then anyone else about what he makes for this event. so like I said before, only allen knows that fact. just because I ask about it doesn't mean I am the devil! lol

in closing the beaten horse thread, I will say thanks to the folks that were nice an understood what I asked and responded with their thoughts on the event. I have never been to this particuler event, but your comments were informative for me to decide whether to attend. I have no ill will torwards allen hopkins, or his event, he is a legend in the pool world. just like someone said earlier, no one has their arm twisted to attend.


Funny...I reread my post...not one word in there is bashing you.
 
I would venture a guess and say that at the end of the whole Expo Allen does not make even $34,000. Not net at least. If he does...more power to him.
People are always whining about what's wrong with pool and here's a guy who busts his tail to put on an excellent show only to have people question the money payouts. What did you think? That he was doing this out of charity?

You dont understand your own writing then! You asked in this post by you, what did i think, that he was doing this out of charity? Since i started the thread, your response is bashing me. Stupid really, because i said the promoter should make money. Obviously you dont understand what you read! Or write eitheru! Lol this is why i dont post on here to much. Douchebags like you just like to bash instead of responding in an informative, adult way.
 
You dont understand your own writing then! You asked in this post by you, what did i think, that he was doing this out of charity? Since i started the thread, your response is bashing me. Stupid really, because i said the promoter should make money. Obviously you dont understand what you read! Or write eitheru! Lol this is why i dont post on here to much. Douchebags like you just like to bash instead of responding in an informative, adult way.

why would you feel the need to call people who disagree with you in this thread, "monkeys" and "douchebags"?

It's nice to be able to have spirited debates on here without getting into this sort of namecalling that comes across very grade-school-like.

Why not just state your opinion along with whatever information you have that led you to your conclusions and allow others the same courtesy?

A little civility can go a long way.

best,
brian kc
 
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You dont understand your own writing then! You asked in this post by you, what did i think, that he was doing this out of charity? Since i started the thread, your response is bashing me. Stupid really, because i said the promoter should make money. Obviously you dont understand what you read! Or write eitheru! Lol this is why i dont post on here to much. Douchebags like you just like to bash instead of responding in an informative, adult way.

You claim to have been "bashed", yet you resort to calling Lee a douchebag?

Nice.

So, in answer to what seems to be your question...you say it's OK for the promoter to make money, but apparently you think Allen is making "too much" money in this instance. So how much is enough, and where is the break point?

I hope Allen makes a HUGE profit. HUGE. No one is being fleeced or taken advantage of at SBE, is my guess, from all I've read and heard. Being successful shouldn't be looked down upon, it should be celebrated.

What is your point, if it's not that you think that Allen is making too much money?
 
Without ever being there, no one can make an intelligent guess of what it cost or profits being made.


Everyone needs to just go there...once in a lifetime.

Thank you to all the cue makers and other vendors to make this a pool players paradise.

It's not just a tournament...it is like visiting a museum.
 
In my opinion, Allen and Allen jr are under payed for all the work they put into this festival for pool players!
 
Save your breath

so was thinking of going to this tourny and was checking out payouts, and all I can say is wow!
SENIOR EVENT.... 365players @ 75.00 = 27,375.00
1-4th ..6,500
5-8... 2,800
9-16th. 2,000
17-32.. 5,600
total payouts= 16,900.00
difference........ 10,475.00

OPEN EVENT...... 979 players @ 75= 73,425.00
1-8th...14,800
9-16....7,200
17-32..11,200
33-64..16,000
total payouts= 49,200
difference.......24,225.00

money made on both= 34,700.00

think you pay quarters too, not sure?

now before you guys bbq me for this thread, I know promoter has to make some money, not opposed to that at all. lot of work and energy! this talley is only for 2 events, i am just opposed to making your whole year on 1 event. plus, i dont know about if tables are open or not? just seems like a lot to take to me. plus, there is no added money, just money taken out. it's a big event, and well supported it looks like, but 5,000 for 1st with that big a fiel seems weird. a guy who wins this event would have to play awsome! just some thoughts, let the bbqing begin! lol


That would be Mr Monkey to you.
If you care to tell him how you feel about his earnings for this event, does he earn a years salary for 1 event, I recommend you go to the show. I will be there, I can introduce you to him.
Allen is easily accessable for you to speak with.
If you want to come on here and make a statement as you did you can expect all responses will not be roses and wine, starting with mine.

You should have entered your figures in excel, it would have looked more professional. I could teach you how to use excel, maybe not.
I think this post was very informative and done in an adult manner.
Sincerely.....Mr. Monkey, and I think I can speak for the men you called douchebags.
 
To put it simply, Hopkins is running a business not a charity.

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I think he does it for the love of the game and people.

I believe this. He is not all about the money kind of person.

I used to go to Atlantic City with him late at night and he really didn't care about the money.:smile:
 
You dont understand your own writing then! You asked in this post by you, what did i think, that he was doing this out of charity? Since i started the thread, your response is bashing me. Stupid really, because i said the promoter should make money. Obviously you dont understand what you read! Or write eitheru! Lol this is why i dont post on here to much. Douchebags like you just like to bash instead of responding in an informative, adult way.


Talk about an inability to read! I never bashed you...hence the reason you needn't post your pointless drivel.

You shouldn't wear your panties so tight.
 
so was thinking of going to this tourny and was checking out payouts, and all I can say is wow!
SENIOR EVENT.... 365players @ 75.00 = 27,375.00
1-4th ..6,500
5-8... 2,800
9-16th. 2,000
17-32.. 5,600
total payouts= 16,900.00
difference........ 10,475.00

OPEN EVENT...... 979 players @ 75= 73,425.00
1-8th...14,800
9-16....7,200
17-32..11,200
33-64..16,000
total payouts= 49,200
difference.......24,225.00

money made on both= 34,700.00

think you pay quarters too, not sure?

now before you guys bbq me for this thread, I know promoter has to make some money, not opposed to that at all. lot of work and energy! this talley is only for 2 events, i am just opposed to making your whole year on 1 event. plus, i dont know about if tables are open or not? just seems like a lot to take to me. plus, there is no added money, just money taken out. it's a big event, and well supported it looks like, but 5,000 for 1st with that big a fiel seems weird. a guy who wins this event would have to play awsome! just some thoughts, let the bbqing begin! lol

Out of curiosity, how many times have you played in these events? have you chased? How well have you done?
 
why would you feel the need to call people who disagree with you in this thread, "monkeys" and "douchebags"?

It's nice to be able to have spirited debates on here without getting into this sort of namecalling that comes across very grade-school-like.

Why not just state your opinion along with whatever information you have that led you to your conclusions and allow others the same courtesy?

A little civility can go a long way.

Best,
brian kc

i did exactly that in my response to what everyone said brian, it wasn't til those particular people started their bashings did i respond with the monkey comment. I didn't bash anyone, allen or his staff. It was just a comment on the amount of money taken out. I am very civil if you are to me, respect both ways you know. This is why i don't come on here that often, people always want to bash.
 
you claim to have been "bashed", yet you resort to calling lee a douchebag?

Nice.

So, in answer to what seems to be your question...you say it's ok for the promoter to make money, but apparently you think allen is making "too much" money in this instance. So how much is enough, and where is the break point?

I hope allen makes a huge profit. Huge. No one is being fleeced or taken advantage of at sbe, is my guess, from all i've read and heard. Being successful shouldn't be looked down upon, it should be celebrated.

What is your point, if it's not that you think that allen is making too much money?

thats the question i guess, is there an amount thats too much? And i was very civil. I didn't fire the first shot. Lol
 
that would be mr monkey to you.
If you care to tell him how you feel about his earnings for this event, does he earn a years salary for 1 event, i recommend you go to the show. I will be there, i can introduce you to him.
Allen is easily accessable for you to speak with.
If you want to come on here and make a statement as you did you can expect all responses will not be roses and wine, starting with mine.

You should have entered your figures in excel, it would have looked more professional. I could teach you how to use excel, maybe not.
I think this post was very informative and done in an adult manner.
Sincerely.....mr. Monkey, and i think i can speak for the men you called douchebags.

lol lol lol lol i dont mind disagreement, don't need to use excel either. You got my point. Its ok i don't mind
 
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