Am I Missing Something Here ????
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WheatCues said:
Well Ed you posted & expresses your opinion, and it is good that you admit to thinking "Outside The Box."
Plus your are, making IMHO a generious offering, of "Offering A 50% Discount During April To Anyone Who Want's A Custom Cue Made To Their Exact Specs !!!"
Wonder how many will jump on that deal? To you sir I give you a
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You know...
There are lots of custom cue owners who have different ideas about how cues should be treated, as well as all the different atmospheric conditions many cues are subjected to. Different conditions require different specs and therefore, different cuemakers and their different ideas.
Then, there is the eye... One guy likes this color wood... another likes that kind of inlay, another likes the combination of this or that...
When you get one of those cuemakers who is always right, you have to consider that for HIS cues, he IS always right. For someone else, you just have to figure out what's right for you. If it wasn't for so many different ideas and opinions, there wouldn't be so many beautiful cues with so many different "styles." Every cuemaker has his own look or trademark designs. Every cuemaker has his own peculiarities. I know of very few artists without aggravating and/or sometimes hilarious quirks... Some even drink too much and stick their foot in their mouth.
I've said it before and I'll say it, again. If we all conformed to the same ideas, not only would the world be a VERY dull place, but having a custom cue wouldn't even be worth worrying about.
Fifty percent off is a pretty big foot!
(If I were you, I think I'd find a wagon.)
There are lots of custom cue owners who have different ideas about how cues should be treated, as well as all the different atmospheric conditions many cues are subjected to. Different conditions require different specs and therefore, different cuemakers and their different ideas.
Then, there is the eye... One guy likes this color wood... another likes that kind of inlay, another likes the combination of this or that...
When you get one of those cuemakers who is always right, you have to consider that for HIS cues, he IS always right. For someone else, you just have to figure out what's right for you. If it wasn't for so many different ideas and opinions, there wouldn't be so many beautiful cues with so many different "styles." Every cuemaker has his own look or trademark designs. Every cuemaker has his own peculiarities. I know of very few artists without aggravating and/or sometimes hilarious quirks... Some even drink too much and stick their foot in their mouth.
I've said it before and I'll say it, again. If we all conformed to the same ideas, not only would the world be a VERY dull place, but having a custom cue wouldn't even be worth worrying about.
Fifty percent off is a pretty big foot!
(If I were you, I think I'd find a wagon.)
WheatCues
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JesPiddlin said:You know...
There are lots of custom cue owners who have different ideas about how cues should be treated, as well as all the different atmospheric conditions many cues are subjected to. Different conditions require different specs and therefore, different cuemakers and their different ideas.
Then, there is the eye... One guy likes this color wood... another likes that kind of inlay, another likes the combination of this or that...
When you get one of those cuemakers who is always right, you have to consider that for HIS cues, he IS always right. For someone else, you just have to figure out what's right for you. If it wasn't for so many different ideas and opinions, there wouldn't be so many beautiful cues with so many different "styles." Every cuemaker has his own look or trademark designs. Every cuemaker has his own peculiarities. I know of very few artists without aggravating and/or sometimes hilarious quirks... Some even drink too much and stick their foot in their mouth.
I've said it before and I'll say it, again. If we all conformed to the same ideas, not only would the world be a VERY dull place, but having a custom cue wouldn't even be worth worrying about.
Fifty percent off is a pretty big foot!
Hey wait a minute !!! I'm not a drunk !!!!!
Well I was when I posted this thread, but not a usual occurance, I felt I needed quite a few drinks after the whole CNC software episode... and of course I was really started enjoying myself, and one thing led to another and now I'm building cues all this month at 50% off...
"Damn it !!!"
I didn't want you guys getting the wrong impression of me here !
- Eddie Wheat
WheatCues said:
Okay. I've seen some of the CNC discussions and I don't watch them much, anymore. I figured it was better to ignore than wind up drinking. So, we'll let you get by with it this time! But, remember two things...
1. You only have 2 feet!!
2. 50% off twice is FREE!
JesPiddlin said:Okay. I've seen some of the CNC discussions and I don't watch them much, anymore. I figured it was better to ignore than wind up drinking. So, we'll let you get by with it this time! But, remember two things...
1. You only have 2 feet!!
2. 50% off twice is FREE!
WANNA BET????????????
ericdraven said:
(it stems from the abundance of self righteous cuemakers and part -timers thinking they are always right and their work is god)
Mr. Dravin, I think this is certainly the most important, intelligent, and articulate thing you have said in any post you have ever made on this forum. Now if only you could separate hype from reality you may just make it some day, and really understand what is being said here!!!
You know Eric, I learned along time ago when everyone is agreeing with what anyone says, no body is really thinking, they are only boobing their heads up and down looking like fools with weak neck muscles!!!!
Have great night Eric, oh and by the way, neck braces work wonders for the pain you are feeling right now!!!!! Sweet Heart!!!!!!
JesPiddlin said:2. 50% off twice is FREE!
ribdoner said:WANNA BET????????????
I was afraid someone would challenge that. I MEANT to say that 50% of the TOTAL price discounted twice is FREE.
(I was workin' real hard on a GOOD discount and you had to go and spoil it for me!)
do your homework
Eddie has been very outfront about his pricing on these forums for months. You might not be sure that you are getting fifty percent off to the penny but at fifty percent off his prices he has quoted in the past he is working for almost nothing. I prefer making my own cues or I would genuinely let him make me one. I can't pay the rent and lights while making a cue for the price he should be selling them at fifty percent off.
Hu
shinobi said:
Eddie has been very outfront about his pricing on these forums for months. You might not be sure that you are getting fifty percent off to the penny but at fifty percent off his prices he has quoted in the past he is working for almost nothing. I prefer making my own cues or I would genuinely let him make me one. I can't pay the rent and lights while making a cue for the price he should be selling them at fifty percent off.
Hu
no list I know of
Probably the PM was the best option. He and I had a pretty long thread awhile back about pricing. He has very low overhead and is passing it on to his customers to begin with. Fifty percent off of that price should mean a great deal.
Hu
shinobi said:
Probably the PM was the best option. He and I had a pretty long thread awhile back about pricing. He has very low overhead and is passing it on to his customers to begin with. Fifty percent off of that price should mean a great deal.
Hu
And Of Course You Have The Conformists Like "joeyincali" Who Only Agree With The Mainstream And Wouldn't Dare Make Waves Becasue He's So Friggin' Insecure That It Might Crush His Fragile Ego
Wow! Of course I can be a sociopatic stuck up in his high horse and argues and tries to outsenior bignamed cuemakers whose resume I can't carry, then badmouth the whole industry and his peers and proclaim myself a hero or savior. But, I won't.
I For One Have Always Thought Outside The Box And Are Not Afraid In The Least To Voice My Opinion Or Solicitate Opinions From Others...
Really? You are so narcisistic everytime someone disagrees with you, you blow your top.
So far you have created enemies in Blackheart, RHN and Dave Barrenbrugge.
Dave, whom you threatened to badmouth and get physical.
Eddie, it ain't the world. IT'S YOU.
Grow up.
Wow! Of course I can be a sociopatic stuck up in his high horse and argues and tries to outsenior bignamed cuemakers whose resume I can't carry, then badmouth the whole industry and his peers and proclaim myself a hero or savior. But, I won't.
I For One Have Always Thought Outside The Box And Are Not Afraid In The Least To Voice My Opinion Or Solicitate Opinions From Others...
Really? You are so narcisistic everytime someone disagrees with you, you blow your top.
So far you have created enemies in Blackheart, RHN and Dave Barrenbrugge.
Dave, whom you threatened to badmouth and get physical.
Eddie, it ain't the world. IT'S YOU.
Grow up.
WheatCues
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JoeyInCali said:
NO SIR !!!
I do not blow up when someone dissagrees with me, I don't expect anyone to agree with me at all... I am not here to gain allies and form a clique like some of you do ! and just because you ARE a top name in this business doesn't mean YOUR way is the ONLY way !
I came on here to seek knowlege, offer it, and to advertise my recent "gone national" custom fitted cuemaking at a reasonable practical price for players who need more out of a cue than a "production" model can offer, but can't justify spending a 1000.00 + on a custom cue, to just to improve their performance....
There is definitely a market for this approach to the cuemaking industry, and I'm being very realistic about my pricing and are not in anyway trying to attract the highend art collectors... I want "PLAYERS" as customers becasue I WILL build them exactly what the want and need, without breaking the bank !!!
Now, with that said, I can answer your question....
Due to the "new kid on the block" scenario with me I can definitely see as well as everyone else can, that the certain cliques and groups who stick together so tightly and back each other up, do NOT like a new guy coming here making waves or introducing new ideas or concepts or just does things differently then they do, and especially selling their work much more affordably while maintaing great quality to boot !
Well this is where the problem is created Joey, becasue I have to fight, to break into mainstream and pacifists will not get noticed, especially when you have big names coming down on you, because you reveal too much info. or they simply dissagree with your methods... some are easily chased away,as they have done others before me...
You have to be confident and prepared to handle the best and WORST case scenarios and more importantly be able to deliver exactly what you say you can... and that also includes repair work as well, everything I have ever suggested anyone to do or that I do myself works very very well ! and becasue some of the "old dogs" do NOT utilize or approve of my methods doesn't mean they don't work.. and after 18+ yrs of it. I DO HAVE A REAL GOOD CLUE TO WHAT WORKS FOR ME !!!
I simply do NOT like bullies and I cannot be scared off, Yes I offer my 2 cents when I can help someone, and because I DO come off very confident, and sometimes I can be overbearing and taken the wrong way... I have made numerous corrections on my posts for the sensitive easily offended.. but for some of you: you have nothing better to do than to critique my posts and extract one sentence from several paragraphs and then proceed to completely remove it out of context and create controversy....
I am beginning to learn not to take ALL you guys so sereiously, but you have to remember Joey, when your the new employee "me" and you are tenacious and are going out of your way to make an impression on the boss "potential customers" and to show you are serious and are here to stay, and what YOU have to offer is great quality at a reasonable price, that creates alot of tension and uneasiness throughout the workplace "AZ BIlliards" so you must prove yourself as a worthy adversary and stand your ground regardless of the taunts, insults and cold treatment to the new guy "me".
I know the above paragraph was a lousy analogy but I'm sure you get my point... when you jump into an already over-solidified industry with veteran master cuemakers, you better have something else to offer besides a pretty piece of wood, if you expect to be VERY successful in this industry, especially if building and repairing cues is your PROFESSION and the only source of income...
Marketing is everything when it comes to getting yourself noticed on a large scale, If I sat back in the shadows and never spoke up or defended my views, I might as well pack it in as far as selling myself goes... I just want everyone on AZ to know what kind of honest upfront person they are planning to, are or have done business with here online !
We all can make ourselves look good behind a keyboard but when you talk to me via phone or in person I am exactly the same and I deliver exactly what the customer asks for... I am very serious about what I do, and when fellow cuemakers insult my competence or successful methods that warrants a significant reponse !!!
I am here to stay and will be building custom fitted cues for decades to come, and since everyone who has achieved solidifed successful mainstream status as a cuemaker, had to start somewhere, I am no different, just that the somewhere is HERE on AZ Billiards "nationally speaking of course"
And Joey, I like to break balls once in a while too, and I felt I owed you that little plug from the main post on this thread, after all the nice things you say about me.... Love ya !
This explaination is about as good as it gets when trying to convey my intentions and disposition regarding my involvement in this indusrty and AZ forums.. this is NOT meant offensively to anyone !!!
Thanks for reading.....
Sincerely and most heartfelt, Eddie Wheat
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There are no cliques. That's a figment of your imagination and made up to your convenient because cuemakers here don't like your arrogant self-righteous azz.
It ain't nothing wrong with the group of makers here who banter, argue and agree. You are just extra-special. Has blown his lid a few times and then conveniently blamed alcohol this time.
Another self-serving tootin-horn statement and custom cueamaking industry ribbin'.
Another tootin-horn statement. We get it. Your cues are cheap. Do we need to hear it a million times? Just put a price on your site.
But, are you doing it b/c you can't compete with the high-end makers or b/c you can't justify the prices they charge? Make up your mind. Then don't complain about the high cost of supplies.
The only waves you created is your ocean of bs.
You're not the only cueamaker who sells his cues cheap here Eddie.
New ideas and concepts? WOW! So the makers here are against you sharing useful ideas and concepts? Your logic is screwed.
Really??? What interest do they have in putting you out of business?
You think Dave CARES ABOUT YOUR CUES? Or your business?
Dick or Jer care about your cues and your business?
Stop imagining stuff Eddie. THINK .
Think outside your box.
Another future hall of famer practically called you brain-damaged in this thread. Does he have interest in putting you out of business too?
Good for you. But, if you insist and argue against two makers who probably are going to combine for a million dollars worth of custom cues in their lives and one has IMPECCABLE reputation for repairs, you are on your own.
If you are right in your argument, then go smile and walk away.
Oh, really. You are one yourself. You open up a thread and drag my name into it and then blame alcohol.
You could have edited it after.
IT AIN't THE WORLD EDDIE. IT's YOU.
You are an arrogant pompous ahole. Non-comformist for sure.
Go to sales school. FIRST LESSON they tell you is to sell yourself, your company then your product. They will tell you after that, DO NOT DISPARAGE YOUR competition. It makes you look stupid and classless.
Well, you chose to quit your job and do this full-time. You broke Dennis Dickman's second law . DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB.
Now, where are you going to get $3K and up every month plus medical insurance?
NO it's not. It's THE CUES. If your cues are not getting noticed, guess what? There's nothing special about them.
I'm not calling you. Have no reason to. Have no desire to.
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Cue Sticks with an attitude. 
Eddie, I am not familiar with your cues but if they have as much back bone as your words, you must make a stiff hitting cue.
I don't pay attention to most of the squabbles on AZB but I know that they do go on but don't know any of the posts that went on between you and joey from cali. I just wanted to acknowledge your moxy and/or marketing efforts.
JoeyA
WheatCues said:
Eddie, I am not familiar with your cues but if they have as much back bone as your words, you must make a stiff hitting cue.
I don't pay attention to most of the squabbles on AZB but I know that they do go on but don't know any of the posts that went on between you and joey from cali. I just wanted to acknowledge your moxy and/or marketing efforts.
JoeyA