P.T. Barnum had that original quote for the Barnum and Bailey circus!!
Amazon and Winning One Pocket Book has me laughing all the way to Bathroom!!!
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P.T. Barnum had that original quote for the Barnum and Bailey circus!!
Too cheap....something must be wrong with it.
I thought the first book was great.
The second book, I thought, had some very creative ideas in it.
But, unless you love sleeping in the trunk of your car , would be better left for amusement purposes only.
The second book, I thought, had some very creative ideas in it.
But, unless you love sleeping in the trunk of your car , would be better left for amusement purposes only.
The three cushion book has been getting the highest prices lately so I'm guessing it would be about $15k from this seller.
I would guess the current value of the three Eddie Robin books are:
Winning 1-P...150-250 based on condition.
SMS...around 150. The author apparently found an extra pallet of them and has been selling them direct for many years around this price.
3-C...seems to be getting good prices for it, Over 200 for sure and maybe as high as 350 for good copies. It's a little rarer and I think the systems in this book make it a little more valuable than the one pocket books that are heavily based on early Accu-Stat video matches.
I would guess the current value of the three Eddie Robin books are:
Winning 1-P...150-250 based on condition.
SMS...around 150. The author apparently found an extra pallet of them and has been selling them direct for many years around this price.
3-C...seems to be getting good prices for it, Over 200 for sure and maybe as high as 350 for good copies. It's a little rarer and I think the systems in this book make it a little more valuable than the one pocket books that are heavily based on early Accu-Stat video matches.
How many Bitcoin is that?
My first car (66Dodge Coronet 500) was $2800. Fully loaded. Something is wrong folks......
Wrong. The quote can be attributed all the way back to Thomas Tusser in "Five Hundreth Pointes of Good Husbandrie" written in 1573. Thanks for playing.
EDIT: even older Proverbs 21:20
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I couldn't find the quote in Proverbs 21:20...but here's all the translations of it...
KJ21
There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise, but a foolish man spendeth it up.
ASV
There is precious treasure and oil in the dwelling of the wise; But a foolish man swalloweth it up.
AMP
There is precious treasure and oil in the house of the wise [who prepare for the future], But a short-sighted*andfoolish man swallows it up*andwastes it.
AMPC
There are precious treasures and oil in the dwelling of the wise, but a self-confident*andfoolish man swallows it up*andwastes it.
BRG
There is*treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up.
CSB
Precious treasure and oil are in the dwelling of a wise person, but a fool consumes them.
CEB
Precious treasure and oil stay in the home of the wise, but fools swallow them up.
CJB
In the home of the wise are fine treasures and oil, but a fool quickly devours it.
CEV
Be sensible and store up precious treasures— don’t waste them like a fool.
DARBY
There is costly store and oil in the dwelling of a wise [man]; but a foolish man swalloweth it up.
DRA
There is a treasure to be desired, and oil in the dwelling of the just: and the foolish man shall spend it.
ERV
Wise people save the nice things they have. Fools use up everything as soon as they get it.
ESV
Precious treasure and oil are in a wise man's dwelling, but a foolish man devours it.
ESVUK
Precious treasure and oil are in a wise man's dwelling, but a foolish man devours it.
EXB
Wise people’s houses are full of ·the best foods*[orprecious treasure]and olive oil, but fools ·waste*[consume;*L swallow]everything they have.
GNV
In the house of the wise is a pleasant treasure and oil; but a foolish man devoureth it.
GW
Costly treasure and wealth are in the home of a wise person, but a fool devours them.
GNT
Wise people live in wealth and luxury, but stupid people spend their money as fast as they get it.
HCSB
Precious treasure and oil are in the dwelling of a wise person, but a foolish man consumes them.
ICB
Wise people store up the best foods and olive oil. But a foolish person eats up everything he has.
ISV
Precious treasures and oil are found where the wise live, but a foolish man devours them.
JUB
¶ There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spends it up.
KJV
There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up.
AKJV
There is*treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man spendeth it up.
LEB
Precious treasure and oil*are*in the house of the wise, but the foolish person will devour them.
TLB
The wise man saves for the future, but the foolish man spends whatever he gets.
MSG
Valuables are safe in a wise person’s home; fools put it all out for yard sales.
MEV
There is treasure to be desired and oil in the dwelling of the wise, but a foolish man squanders it.
NOG
Costly treasure and wealth are in the home of a wise person, but a fool devours them.
NABRE
Precious treasure and oil are in the house of the wise, but the fool consumes them.
NASB
There is precious treasure and oil in the dwelling of the wise, But a foolish man swallows it up.
NCV
Wise people’s houses are full of the best foods and olive oil, but fools waste everything they have.
NET
There is desirable treasure and olive oil in the dwelling of the wise, but a foolish person devours all he has.
NIRV
Wise people store up the best food and olive oil. But foolish people eat up everything they have.
NIV
The wise store up choice food and olive oil, but fools gulp theirs down.
NIVUK
The wise store up choice food and olive oil, but fools gulp theirs down.
NKJV
There is*desirable treasure, And oil in the dwelling of the wise, But a foolish man squanders it.
NLV
There are riches and oil of great worth in the house of the wise, but a foolish man swallows them up.
NLT
The wise have wealth and luxury, but fools spend whatever they get.
NRSV
Precious treasure remains in the house of the wise, but the fool devours it.
NRSVA
Precious treasure remains in the house of the wise, but the fool devours it.
NRSVACE
Precious treasure remains in the house of the wise, but the fool devours it.
NRSVCE
Precious treasure remains in the house of the wise, but the fool devours it.
OJB
There is otzar to be desired and shemen in the naveh (dwelling) of the chacham; but a kesil adam squanders it.
TPT
In wisdom’s house you’ll find delightful treasures and the oil of the Holy Spirit. But the stupid squander what they’ve been given.
RSV
Precious treasure remains in a wise man’s dwelling, but a foolish man devours it.
RSVCE
Precious treasure remains in a wise man’s dwelling, but a foolish man devours it.
TLV
Precious treasure and oil are in a wise person’s dwelling, but a foolish person devours all he has.
VOICE
The wise have a generous supply of fine food and oil in their homes, but fools*are wasteful,consuming every last drop.
WEB
There is precious treasure and oil in the dwelling of the wise; but a foolish man swallows it up.
WYC
Desirable treasure and oil*is*in the dwelling place of a just man; and an unprudent man shall destroy it. (Desirable treasure and oil*be*in the dwelling place of the wise; but an imprudent person shall destroy it all.)
YLT
A treasure to be desired, and oil, [Is] in the habitation of the wise, And a foolish man swalloweth it up.
But if you really want to get technical about the quote....
Dear Quote Investigator:*A famous saying about gullibility is usually attributed to the well-known showman P. T. Barnum. Here are two versions:
There’s a sucker born every minute.
There’s a fool born every minute.
Whether Barnum actually used either of these expressions is controversial. Would you please examine this topic?
Quote Investigator:*QI*has located no persuasive evidence that Phineas Taylor Barnum who died in 1891 spoke or wrote this saying. Researcher Ralph Keyes presented a skeptical stance with his assertion in “The Quote Verifier” that “No modern historian takes seriously the routine attribution of this slogan to P. T. Barnum.”*1
There exists a family of closely related expressions with a long history. Here is a sampling together with years of occurrence. The first item listed employed dialectical spelling. The word “flat” was a synonym for “fool”. The abbreviation “attrib” means that the words were attributed to an individual, but the evidence was indirect:
1806: there vash von fool born every minute
1826: a new fool is born every day
1835: there is a flat born every minute
1877: there is a fool born every hour
1879: there’s a sucker born every minute (anonymous adage)
1882: there was a sucker born every minute (attrib anon con man)
1885: there was a sucker born every minute (attrib Hungry Joe)
1888: there is a sucker born every minute (attrib Artemus Ward)
1889: a sucker is born every minute (attrib Mike McDonald)
1890: a fool was born every minute (attrib P.T. Barnum)
1892: there was a sucker born every minute (attrib P.T. Barnum)
The above listing is a snapshot of current research results, and it will certainly change over time as more data is gathered. The earliest instances of these expressions were anonymous, and*QIbelieves that later attributions had inadequate support.
Here are selected citations in chronological order.
In 1806 an article titled “Essay on False Genius” was published in “The European Magazine and London Review”. Within the article an instance of the saying was attributed to a fictitious commodity seller. The passage reflected the prejudices and stereotypes of the milieu, and the phrase was written in dialect. Boldface has been added to excerpts:*2
It was the observation of one of the tribe of Levi, to whom some person had expressed his astonishment at his being able to sell his damaged and worthless commodities,*“That there vash von fool born every minute.”And perhaps the calculation might be brought to the proof, that not more than fifty men of genius are born in half a century.
In 1826 “The New-York Evening Post” reprinted an article about a letter that appeared in a London newspaper and appended the following remark. A version of the adage using “day” instead of “minute” was placed between quotation marks and designated a “principle” indicating that it was already in circulation. No attribution was given:*3
The writer of this letter wonders that the English will continue to trade with America, and can account for it only on the principle that*“a new fool is born every day.”
In 1835 “Bell’s Life In London and Sporting Chronicle” printed an instance of the saying that used the word “flat” instead of “fool” or “sucker”. The term “flat” in this article was applied to an individual who mistakenly entrusted money to a swindler for safekeeping:*4
It is only surprising, after the repeated exposures of this species of robbery, that fresh flats are so frequently picked up; but, as these ingenious speculators say,*“there is a flat born every minute;”*and it is not likely the race will become extinct.
In 1839 “Fraser’s Magazine for Town and Country” printed an instance of the saying that used the word “flat” in the domain was horse racing:*5
Man may be fairly styled an animal of the class “gullible.” From the hour of his birth till the day of his death, never does the organ of credulity cease to bump out his cerebrum. It is a common saying among the legs of the turf, that*“there is a flat born every minute.”*No dictum can be based on better grounds.
In 1855 “The Yale Literary Magazine” published a comical poem about a baby show that mentioned P. T. Barnum and included word play with the terms “succor” and “sucker”. Note that a breast-feeding baby may be designated a “sucker”. Also, according to the Oxford English Dictionary the sense of “sucker” as a greenhorn or simpleton was already established by 1838:*6*7
They all were there in beauty so bright,
Arrayed in their very best bib and tucker:
Mr. Barnum*provided for each one’s needs,
And*gave needed succor to each little sucker.
Thus, the poem stated that Barnum was attending to the needs of newly born suckers. Nevertheless, the earliest known evidence for the saying “sucker born every minute” was dated 1879, and the ascription to Barnum only occurred more than a decade later as detailed further below.
In 1877 a London newspaper quoted a “sharper”, i.e., a criminal trickster, using a version of the expression with “hour” instead of “minute’:*8
“There is a fool born every hour,”*said one of these sharpers to an informant of Mr. Anderson, the member for Glasgow, “and, thank Heaven, the majority of them live!”
In January 1879 the earliest instance using “sucker” appeared in an article titled “Gambling in Chicago” printed in “The Inter-Ocean” newspaper of Chicago, Illinois. The following words were attributed to an “old-timer”, and the saying was enclosed in single-quotation marks signaling that the phrase was already in circulation:*9
. . . in the season they make a bit on base ball, or on the races, and then, you know,*‘there’s a sucker born every minute,’*and rigid city legislation drives the hard-up gambler, who would be a decent one of the kind, to turn skin-dealer and sure-thing player.
In January 1882 another instance using “sucker” appeared in an article titled “Keep Your Money: People Would Do Well to Look Carefully before They Leap” printed in a Chicago, Illinois newspaper:*10
It was an expert confidence man who said that*“there was a sucker born every minute,*and some have remained suckers all their lives.”
In 1883 other instances of the phrase with “sucker” appeared. For example, a newspaper in New Haven, Connecticut ascribed an extended version of the adage to archetypal gamblers:*11
Gamblers call all outside their fraternity suckers. They say*“There is a sucker born every minute,and New York is the best place in the world to catch them.”
In 1885 a 41 page biographical sketch titled “The Life of Hungry Joe: King of the Bunco Men” was published, and the saying was ascribed to the notorious confidence man Joseph Lewis, aka Hungry Joe:*12
It was always a saying with*Joe*that*there was a sucker born every minute,*and all through his business career he acted on that basis, and generally found a good crop of them.
In October 1888 a New York newspaper described a jewelry-based swindle and the unfortunate souls who were deceived. The article ended with an instance of the saying ascribed to the popular humorist Artemus Ward, pen name of Charles Farrar Browne:*13
Old men and young men bit alike and the experience, although dearly bought will, no doubt, be a lesson to them. Then, too, they can console themselves with that famous expression of*Artemus Ward’s*that*“there is a sucker born every minute.”
In September 1889 a Rockford, Illinois newspaper printed the saying and credited a well-known Chicago criminal named Mike McDonald:*14
They have long since proved the truth of*Mike McDonald’scelebrated maxim that*a sucker is born every minute.”
In October 1890 a clothing store ran an advertisement in the “Chicago Tribune” that ascribed to P.T. Barnum a version of the adage with the word “fool”. This was the earliest linkage to Barnum found by*QI:*15
Any of these so-called Dry Goods stores go into the Clothing business by hiring a salesman from some clothing house, send him down to New York, and when he returns they “ADVERTISE” his purchases 40 per cent LESS than Clothing Store Prices. However, they don’t care a “—–” what they say in the papers, anything to get the crowd.*Barnumsaid many years ago that*a fool was born every minute.
In November 1891 the same clothing store ran another advertisement in the “Chicago Tribune” and credited Barnum with a slightly different phrasing that replaced “fool” with “new fool”:*16
The “Immortal”*Barnum*said*every minute a new fool is born,*and he catered that way and was successful. He could have kept successfully a “Department” Store.
In July 1892 a newspaper in Victoria, British Columbia reprinted a tale from a Montreal paper about a young Englishman who was swindled. The introduction presented an instance of the adage with the word “sucker”. This was the first linkage of Barnum to the “sucker” version of the maxim found by*QI:*17
The appended sad story is clipped from the Montreal Herald of July 13, and, will be read with interest by Victorians: “The late*P. T. Barnum,*the king of showmen, often remarked that*there was a sucker born every minute,*and one of the slick gentlemen in Montreal evidently believes that it is true.”
In October 1892 the maxim was again ascribed to the defrauder Joseph Lewis, aka Hungry Joe, in the pages of a New York newspaper:*18
When Inspector Williams was only a Captain, and the notorious bunco steerer “Hungry Joe” was in the zenith of his very questionable fame, the Captain, in a fit of laudable curiosity, asked the swindling expert how it was that he managed to live so well by his wits.
“Why, don’t you know that*there is a sucker born every minute?”Hungry Joe*answered, in a tone of honest surprise that the Captain had not discovered the fact.
Secondary and tertiary sources have associated the adage with George Hull, David Hannum, Joseph Bessimer, Adam Forepaugh and others. However, the data in this article is based directly on passages in newspapers and books with known dates.
In conclusion, the two expressions “there’s a fool born every minute” and “there’s a sucker born every minute” both had anonymous attributions initially. Over time they were reassigned to prominent individuals of the time period.
However, only the fame of P.T. Barnum has endured. Today, the phrase “there’s a sucker born every minute” is often ascribed to him. Yet, support for this ascription is very weak. Citations occurred at the very end of his life and after his death.
(Special thanks to PatriotFan whose query led QI to formulate this question and motivated QI to write up results primarily obtained in 2010. Great thanks to Bill Mullins who located the January 7, 1882 citation. Bill also found a valuable citation using flat in June 1835. Thanks to other ADS discussants. Also thanks to Barry Popik for his*valuable research on this topic.*In addition, thanks to the volunteer Wikipedia editors and jb5911 who clipped the 1879 citation with “sucker” at newspapers.com)
So you're saying PT Barnum didn't have the original quote?
I loaned my signed copy (by Walter Tevis) of The Hustler to a local pool player who begged me to let him read it. Shortly thereafter he broke up with his long time girl friend and disappeared, never to be seen again. Shame on me for trusting him and shame on him for being so dishonorable.
Amazon and Winning One Pocket Book has me laughing all the way to Bathroom!!!
$12,045.08 + $3.99 shipping
$12,034.70 + $14.37 shipping
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0936362146/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=used
$12,034.70
+ $14.37 shipping + $0.00 estimated tax
You can now probably add sales tax to that also.
There is plenty of opportunity for outrage about the prices that thieves ask for books. Some listings are 1000 times the actual value of the book.
The best site I know of for finding out-of-print books is http://used.addall.com/ which searches a couple of dozen other sites for books. Here is the listing for Daly's Billiard Book (which every student of the game should have, and I hope you have a copy already) listed most expensive first. The first two listings are for different copies but from the same seller.
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The Dover paperback in good condition might sell for $10. The first listing is in "fair" condition which is bookseller-talk for "the cover has some stains and creases and there is marking inside and some pages are loose but present". That is a $2 value, plus about $2.50 for media mail shipping. They are asking a little more than that.
I think they are just putting a net out and hoping a drunk, blind fish will swim into it.
If you sort by cheapest first, there are 10 copies under $10 and one is $1.25.
The best site I know of for finding out-of-print books is http://used.addall.com/ which searches a couple of dozen other sites for books. Here is the listing for Daly's Billiard Book (which every student of the game should have, and I hope you have a copy already) listed most expensive first. The first two listings are for different copies but from the same seller.
The Dover paperback in good condition might sell for $10. The first listing is in "fair" condition which is bookseller-talk for "the cover has some stains and creases and there is marking inside and some pages are loose but present". That is a $2 value, plus about $2.50 for media mail shipping. They are asking a little more than that.
I think they are just putting a net out and hoping a drunk, blind fish will swim into it.
If you sort by cheapest first, there are 10 copies under $10 and one is $1.25.
If anyone wants the book, here's a reasonable price on EBay, depending on how the bidding goes:
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$10,800.00 for a Daly lol , some people are nuts.
There used to be a guy on alibris or one of those that had every book he owned listed for 500.00 his name was Frogtown or something like that , I always found that humorous.
There used to be a guy on alibris or one of those that had every book he owned listed for 500.00 his name was Frogtown or something like that , I always found that humorous.
Sadly there will be no "next" person to benefit from reading it. One deadbeat ruins it for everyone.
I think that Eddie is the only person with an original supply and he only has SM&S. He sells them occasionally on Ebay for about $160. It's been a while since I saw him there.
That's not Amazon's price. That's a reseller selling via Amazon.
Good book though. Some of the best 1 pocket info ever poured out on paper. Kinda like the the golfers little red book, but for 1 pocket instead.
Good book though. Some of the best 1 pocket info ever poured out on paper. Kinda like the the golfers little red book, but for 1 pocket instead.