I think you will find that Jericoe Cues still make their stinger cues.
McDermott is making their own stinger series of cues using Jericoe stinger technology by agreement.
Neil
Another Predator shaft Bites the dust .
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I think you will find that Jericoe Cues still make their stinger cues.
McDermott is making their own stinger series of cues using Jericoe stinger technology by agreement.
Neil
I agree with you. This is too much of a coincidence for there to be something wrong with the shafts.
James
I like predator also but I had one of there shafts snap once i hit the rack. It actually cut my finger and left blood on the shaft. I sent it back to predator thinking they might send me another one. Been about a year and have never heard anything from them.
give'm another year or so
Give them another year or so, if you still haven't heard from them then it might be time to start to wonder . . . .
Hu
Give them another year or so, if you still haven't heard from them then it might be time to start to wonder . . . .
Hu
Here is a reply from the Company that Originaly marketed the Universal Smart Shafts and the inserts that Predator is using. They have since stopped using this insert design because it was structrally un-sound and they could not correct it. For those claiming other wise the design is flawed and it has nothing to do with the manner in which the OP is breaking, hope this helps clear things up.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:05:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Predator / Smart shafts photo's included
Hi,
Thank you for the pictures and the information. Yes, I was aware that Predator was using the Universal adapter Technology. It was sold to our Chinese manufacturer and Predator now makes there cues in the same factory. They said they had improved the construction so we would not run into the same breaking problems. But after we sent it to our testing facility in the states they found the joints were still failing. In light of this we choose not to add the adapter technology to any of our products at that time. I am sure Predator is putting the pressure on them to solve the problem. I am sorry that you had this issue. If there is anything I can do to help just let me know.
Best Regards,
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:00 PM, <fullsplicebilliards2@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello, here are some photo's of a BK Break Shaft, it appears that they have begun using the Universal Smart Shaft inserts and design for the BK break cues are you aware of this?
Take Care
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: fullsplicebilliards2@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:05:35 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Predator / Smart shafts photo's included
Hi,
Thank you for the pictures and the information. Yes, I was aware that Predator was using the Universal adapter Technology. It was sold to our Chinese manufacturer and Predator now makes there cues in the same factory. They said they had improved the construction so we would not run into the same breaking problems. But after we sent it to our testing facility in the states they found the joints were still failing. In light of this we choose not to add the adapter technology to any of our products at that time. I am sure Predator is putting the pressure on them to solve the problem. I am sorry that you had this issue. If there is anything I can do to help just let me know.
Best Regards,
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:00 PM, <fullsplicebilliards2@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello, here are some photo's of a BK Break Shaft, it appears that they have begun using the Universal Smart Shaft inserts and design for the BK break cues are you aware of this?
Take Care
i got a bk2 shaft broke the same way, can they fix these or what should i do?
Well if I were you I would contact Predator, they should replace it since it is defective. But, I think I would ask for a refund, because the next one could do the same thing, no there is no way to fix it.
i didnt think it could be repaired, im out then because mine was modified had a g10 tip
The replaced tip is not the cause of the joint failure.
It seems evident that they know there is a problem.
Mabe not with all shafts,but they should be obliged to repair the ones that have failed.
I think those shafts could still be repaired, but would not look like a wood shaft.It would not really be cost effective.
Neil
I've repaired quite a few of these. Let me know what Predator says and we can go from there.
How do you keep dinging it? i understand there being dings in the butt but not so much on the shaft
Fool me once shame on you. fool me twice shame on me.
imo if you stick with a BK2 after this time what ever happens next time is your fault not theirs
imo if you stick with a BK2 after this time what ever happens next time is your fault not theirs
...and I'm not trying to bust your balls either...just trying to help determine what's causing your troubles. In looking at another video you have on youtube, you break very different in that one. This one was the more typical finish with a bent cue (see pics below). In fact, your tip stays on the table for a long time.
BTW, I'm NOT suggesting you are doing anything wrong here...IMO a good break cue should be expected to survive this type of use. It is VERY common to bend the cue to this level and a good cue should not sweat it.
If you did that on my table... I'd throw you right out!
if u breakstyle is pressing the cue down against the table, over time, stress gets break up in the joint area. the shaft will give way eventually. so dont ever press the cue against the table. maybe break like earl the pearl strickland....cue high high in the air after break
Same observation I made. I like to see some beef down around the joint. Decades ago there were some big hitters breaking with their playing cues. Wade Crane, David Howard, Richie Florence, Danny Medina, Billy Incardona etc. They were playing with cues like Joss West and East, Meucci, Szamboti, McDermott and the like. I don't remember ever seeing one break like that. I did see some ferrules come loose or break. When you bought a cue back then, the cue maker would tell you go ahead and break with it. That's what it was made for!
Is that Ryan the wrestler? :groucho:
I've had one problem with a Predator shaft (the broken ferrule thing) and they promptly repaired it, so I think they will stand behind their product. I think that ferrule flaw has been fixed now.
They didn't leave much wood around that insert, did they? I'm glad I'm using partials! I would not expect a shaft to break there, that's for sure.
It looks to me like an adhesive problem and a design flaw
Chris
They didn't leave much wood around that insert, did they? I'm glad I'm using partials! I would not expect a shaft to break there, that's for sure.
It looks to me like an adhesive problem and a design flaw
Chris
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i bought a predator LE-5 in 1997 with the a 314 shaft and have been breaking with it ever since i bought it. never had a problem still has the original tip. will continue to break with it until i get a j/b cue.
Well I guess your probably right it's not predators fault that they broke it's really mine i guess , it's got to be my technique I'm going to have to change a few things when I break, less follow threw , not as hard and don't put the tip on the cloth , I think that pretty much sums it up , thanks guys you've all been a help .