Any good players look at CB last?

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Anyone an A player or 7/9 handicap, semi-pro or pro and look at CB last?

I feel like I'm a 7 when I look at OB last and a 9+ when I look at CB last??

Anyone play this way?

PS- this is NOT anything to do with aiming, has nothing to do with CTE or "aiming
Systems" just a question for those to see who looks at cueball last.
 
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Rackattach said:
Anyone an A player or 7/9 handicap, semi-pro or pro and look at CB last?

I feel like I'm a 7 when I look at OB last and a 9+ when I look at CB last??

Anyone play this way?

PS- this is NOT anything to do with aiming, has nothing to do with CTE or "aiming
Systems" just a question for those to see who looks at cueball last.
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I'm considered an A player and a APA 9. I look at the cueball last. Sort of. I aim from my bridge to a spot on the cueball. I am peripherally aware of the location of the object ball at a point along the top edge of the cueball. Where along this edge the object ball is tells me the direction it will go. Then I just look at the spot on the cueball and stroke through. When I'm seeing things right, I can be extremely accurate. However, I'm kinda hopeless when I'm not seeing things well. And whether or not I see well seems like something that changes with the wind. Not sure I'd recommend this method, but I know for sure that it *can* work.

KMRUNOUT
 
KMRUNOUT said:
I'm considered an A player and a APA 9. I look at the cueball last. Sort of. I aim from my bridge to a spot on the cueball. I am peripherally aware of the location of the object ball at a point along the top edge of the cueball. Where along this edge the object ball is tells me the direction it will go. Then I just look at the spot on the cueball and stroke through. When I'm seeing things right, I can be extremely accurate. However, I'm kinda hopeless when I'm not seeing things well. And whether or not I see well seems like something that changes with the wind. Not sure I'd recommend this method, but I know for sure that it *can* work.

KMRUNOUT
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Yeah. Neat how you explain that. I feel also that I look at the tip top Of the cueball while seeing a "line" and then I finally just hit my spot on the CB. I feel way more accurate...

Being a former scratch golfer - I just look at it as the same thing.. look at golf ball not target because I hit the golf ball so I always looked at CB last because I HIT the CB.
 
I am old, blind, and only play on Sundays, but I can still play at an A-level, or higher, when I'm seeing the ball good.

I look at the CB last on almost all of my shots. I'm sure I look at the OB at times and sometimes a "blend" of the two balls, but my emphasis is on the CB...that is my PRIMARY target. If I don't hit the CB correctly, I'm screwed from the beginning.
 
Two that come to my mind are Kieth McCready and Ralf Souquet. At least from what I have witnessed.
 
I look at the shaft and the line it creates through the cue ball and the object ball to create a y and contact point for the correct tangent line.

Not sure why people focus on the balls and not the line created by the shaft???

Kd
 
Kid Dynomite said:
I look at the shaft and the line it creates through the cue ball and the object ball to create a y and contact point for the correct tangent line.

Not sure why people focus on the balls and not the line created by the shaft???

Kd
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Some look at the shaft, some look at the balls. As long as they concentrate on the shot, they're both ok with me.

I like girls.
 
Rackattach said:
Anyone an A player or 7/9 handicap, semi-pro or pro and look at CB last?

I feel like I'm a 7 when I look at OB last and a 9+ when I look at CB last??

Anyone play this way?

PS- this is NOT anything to do with aiming, has nothing to do with CTE or "aiming
Systems" just a question for those to see who looks at cueball last.
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I always look at the cue ball last with focus on where I am hitting the cue ball and watching the accelerating straight follow through
 
joelpope said:
I always look at the cue ball last with focus on where I am hitting the cue ball and watching the accelerating straight follow through
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The worst thing one can do is "ping pong" your eyes during the stroke. I have been taught to lock your eyes on the object ball at the start of the back stroke and follow through with a "straight" fore stroke and also focus on "zero" head and body movement. Following through with a straight fore stroke and zero body movement must be consciously thought about during practice until it becomes automatic. If one can not remember all the points to a perfect stroke, remember that a "slow" backstroke with a "pause" at the end is the one to remember.
 
I think of it as driving a car; you don't watch the hood ornament, you watch the road.

~ YMMV
 
tableroll said:
The worst thing one can do is "ping pong" your eyes during the stroke. I have been taught to lock your eyes on the object ball at the start of the back stroke and follow through with a "straight" fore stroke and also focus on "zero" head and body movement. Following through with a straight fore stroke and zero body movement must be consciously thought about during practice until it becomes automatic. If one can not remember all the points to a perfect stroke, remember that a "slow" backstroke with a "pause" at the end is the one to remember.
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That ^. I might add focusing on the OB contact point as you get down on the shot to address the CB. This puts your body already in line. If your stroke is pure & mechanics correct, it makes it difficult to miss if using center ball. Applying side spin changes everything & requires adjustment, which IMO is where things get variable.

All that said, I do focus on the OB last. The CB is in my peripheral and I'm well aware of where my tip is contacting it without having to look directly at it.
 
qbilder said:
That ^. I might add focusing on the OB contact point as you get down on the shot to address the CB. This puts your body already in line. If your stroke is pure & mechanics correct, it makes it difficult to miss if using center ball. Applying side spin changes everything & requires adjustment, which IMO is where things get variable.

All that said, I do focus on the OB last. The CB is in my peripheral and I'm well aware of where my tip is contacting it without having to look directly at it.
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Good Points. Speaking of stroke. If you want to see how a pure stroke looks, go to you tube and watch John Morra stroke. I streamed the Texas Open 9 ball finals yesterday and John put on a clinic to win it. They don't call him Mr. Smoothe for nothing. I like his stroke better than any other. Pure poetry in motion.
 
I don't know if I would qualify as a "good player" being a B+, but when I get nervous or not sure of my shooting or if I can make a shot I tend to focus more on the cueball for some reason or even worse, focus between the two.

When I am shooting well, I am looking at the object ball contact point. On the break, I am mostly looking at the cueball.
 
Rackattach,
Thanks for bring this subject up. I don't recall seeing any threads discussing this issue over the last 12-15 years here on AZB. At least not more than a hundred or so.

r/DCP
 
I am a well above average player and I look at the CB last and focus where my tip is going to hit on a vast majority of my shoots. The only time I vary this is on extremely thin, extremely close hits or when the cue and object balls are pretty far apart and have a pretty good cut angle as well.

I am still in development stage with this though as I havent been doing it for too terribly long. I expect eventually just about every shot will be CB focused.
 
When I start missing shots I know what the problem is immediately, Im not focusing on the object ball on my final stroke.
 
If you are shooting good, and feeling comfortable, you can just close your eyes on your final stroke and play at about your normal level. It's really more about how you address the shot. What you are looking at on the final stroke isn't the deciding factor on making the shot.
 
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