Any Ideas why my shaft will react like this???

procues888

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Hi,

I like to ask if any of you have any ideas why this shaft will react like this??? The time I bought these custom cues the 2 shafts are both clean and white. But After 2 to 3 month the I kept in a Predator case, the shaft appearance went this way. I never put any solutions or any liquid on this shaft. I was wandering why is this like this??? Does it have any cure in these shaft? Will it affect the hit to the cue? Maybe you can help me what is the best way to help this shaft to be back in original appearance?

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Who made these shafts?Were they treated with a wood stabilizer?I would see if the maker could make new shafts.I have owned alot of diffrent cues from good cuemakers and have never seen this happen before.:eek:
 
procues888 said:
Hi,

I like to ask if any of you have any ideas why this shaft will react like this??? The time I bought these custom cues the 2 shafts are both clean and white. But After 2 to 3 month the I kept in a Predator case, the shaft appearance went this way. I never put any solutions or any liquid on this shaft. I was wandering why is this like this??? Does it have any cure in these shaft? Will it affect the hit to the cue? Maybe you can help me what is the best way to help this shaft to be back in original appearance?



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Thanks again...:smile:
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i'm wondering if that's nelsonite or resolute oozing out????
cant imagine why that would happen though
ps: might want to have this moved to ASK THE CUEMAKER section
 
If you bought the cue directly from the cuemaker, he will know what happened and stand behind it, if he's responsible. Looks like some kind of chemical reaction. Strange.
 
Very interesting. I kind of like it though if it runs throughout the shaft and doesn't affect playability.

Unfortunately I don't have a clue about what caused it though. I'm sure if they finally form some type of religious shape you might have found the Holy Grail of shafts. As a minimum you could sale them on eBay for a tidy sum.

Lastly who is the cuemaker?
 
Hello,
It looks like the shaft material was actually made with a brown not all white maple that may have also have some birdseye in it and was possibly bleached, I did furniture repair an restoration for Ethan Allen furniture for allmost 10 years as a regular job with benefits, an have been doing vintage pool table repair an minor cue refinishes an tips an ferrules for over 20 years, an maple comes in a whole lot of different grades an colors ,I did like the STD remark it made me choke on my coffee I had a good laugh , an there is allways the possibility of a laten chemical reaction from a combination of cleaners an a finish product that just took a while for the reaction to take place, I kind of like the look, But if you are concerned about any damage reaction or break down of the wood fiber I would still contact the cue maker as well an have him make new shafts. if they play well I would still keep them or even sell them ,by the way what is the pin size? Wish you good luck with them, happy holidays, an hope what little info I gave you was helpfull.
BobbyC
 
> My best guess is maybe it's not something with the wood,but possibly a good bit of moisture inside his case. Unlikely,but possible. Tommy D.
 
Hello Guys,

Many thanks for your opinion and comments for this shaft. Unforetunately I Have ask my cue maker about this and I have send him also the pictures to him. He was shock and he himself dont know why this shaft happens, he just told me that he can make me a new shaft and the price is ...... so meaning I have to pay for a new shaft. This cue maker is a well known cuemaker already so its better for me not to mention his name because I respect this person, since I still dont know the concrete evidence or knowledge why could this happen to the shaft. Maybe if there are players or cue makers have encountered this kind of problems also and they have solution to this please let me know. Thanks for your time guys.:)
 
First off, the STD and glove comments were way too funny. Second, if he won't stand behind his work maybe you should be telling his name so others don't have the same problem. Third, try sending a pic to the U S Forrest Products Laboratory. Fourth, my guess is water staining that has been there since before the shaft was finished and slowly turning color.
 
Hi,

Have you tried having someone take down the shaft and resealed? it could be just the wood finish re-acting to chemical that shaft was dip in.

Regards,
Duc.
 
And the correct answer is.....

Greetings to everyone out there on the Misinformation Network.....

This is one of the reasons why veteran and prominent cue makers don't post more on here. Everyone is an expert and offers their theories which are in no way accurate. Instead of guessing and supposing what this may be, it would be more responsible to say that you just don't know or how about not posting at all. Do you really need to see your name up in lights?

Now for the accurate response:
This is not from any stabilizer (nelsonite or resolute) or anything that the cue maker did or didn't do. And, the cue maker was well within his rights to charge for another shaft.

Additionally....
Those stains are what is commonly referred to as 'tropical stains' or a fungus that is building up on the wood. This is very common on paper items from countries in tropical areas such as the Philippines, Hawaii and many British Commonwealth countries. It appears that the original poster is from the Philippines so I rest my case.

Futhermore....
The actual term is called 'foxing' which is closely related to epherema (look it up) items of which I am a collector of. You will see this on old collectible stamps, especially on old documents, envelopes and newspapers. Many Civil War Covers (mailed envelopes) from the southern states also contain this fungus due to the humid climate in the south prior to air conditioning.

Foxing can be treated effectively by neutralizing the acidity content of the paper or in this case the wood. And yes, we have the chemicals to effectively treat this but I have not done any paper restoration in several years. And no, I'm not interested in treating any cues. Depending on how severe the 'foxing' is, it may be able to be lightly sanded off. However, this is only a temporary fix as the fungus is already in the wood and will only grow back. The only way to rid it for good is to neutralize it. This foxing will not effect the playability of the shaft until such point where the 'foxing' becomes so severe that you are playing with fungus in place of the wood. That will take many, many years.

I would not store any other shafts or cues in the case you are using to store this cue. Rest assured that any cue stored in this case will become infected.

This is my Christmas gift to all you wannabe know-it-alls so now you do know-it-all.

In closing -- MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and to all a good night! Ho Ho Ho!
 
CueComponents said:
Greetings to everyone out there on the Misinformation Network.....

This is one of the reasons why veteran and prominent cue makers don't post more on here. Everyone is an expert and offers their theories which are in no way accurate. Instead of guessing and supposing what this may be, it would be more responsible to say that you just don't know or how about not posting at all. Do you really need to see your name up in lights?

Now for the accurate response:
This is not from any stabilizer (nelsonite or resolute) or anything that the cue maker did or didn't do. And, the cue maker was well within his rights to charge for another shaft.

Additionally....
Those stains are what is commonly referred to as 'tropical stains' or a fungus that is building up on the wood. This is very common on paper items from countries in tropical areas such as the Philippines, Hawaii and many British Commonwealth countries. It appears that the original poster is from the Philippines so I rest my case.

Futhermore....
The actual term is called 'foxing' which is closely related to epherema (look it up) items of which I am a collector of. You will see this on old collectible stamps, especially on old documents, envelopes and newspapers. Many Civil War Covers (mailed envelopes) from the southern states also contain this fungus due to the humid climate in the south prior to air conditioning.

Foxing can be treated effectively by neutralizing the acidity content of the paper or in this case the wood. And yes, we have the chemicals to effectively treat this but I have not done any paper restoration in several years. And no, I'm not interested in treating any cues. Depending on how severe the 'foxing' is, it may be able to be lightly sanded off. However, this is only a temporary fix as the fungus is already in the wood and will only grow back. The only way to rid it for good is to neutralize it. This foxing will not effect the playability of the shaft until such point where the 'foxing' becomes so severe that you are playing with fungus in place of the wood. That will take many, many years.

I would not store any other shafts or cues in the case you are using to store this cue. Rest assured that any cue stored in this case will become infected.

This is my Christmas gift to all you wannabe know-it-alls so now you do know-it-all.

In closing -- MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and to all a good night! Ho Ho Ho!
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Thanks Joe!

I've told these guys many times that if you are not familliar with tropical molds, particularly this one."THEN YOU SUCK AS A CUE MAKER!!!"
But for some reason they just WANNABE cue makers??

By the way it is spelled "Ephemera" you wish silly boy!..Look it up!

I don't know who ya are,or care. But you just won "MOST ARROGANT ASS" on earth award 2008. and we all bow down...

WoW DUDE!
 
CueComponents said:
his is one of the reasons why veteran and prominent cue makers don't post more on here. Everyone is an expert and offers their theories which are in no way accurate. Instead of guessing and supposing what this may be, it would be more responsible to say that you just don't know or how about not posting at all. Do you really need to see your name up in lights?
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The light shines pretty hard on those that are full of sh*t. This is why a lot of people are driven off and then cry about it....
The extreme cases end up banned.
 
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