Anyone Ever Make It In 3 Years?

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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Can someone name me one player that could get the cheese from a top 100 player in the world that has only hit balls for just 3 years? Can someone name me a player that could win a tour stop like the Seminole after only just 3 years of hitting balls? These books, dvd's, instucters, and aiming systems have been around for a lot of years now. If they were the silver bullet you would see 100's of 3 year players out there that rose up to the top 100 in under 3 years. Do I think the info that has come out in the last 20 years or so can help? Yes. I know it can help the time span to get better just because of the not needed trial and error time.

But to get to the top 100 in this game you have to play 8+ hours of pool a day for many years. You have to hang with top players and have no side hobbies like a wife, kids and a job. Oh, and one more thing. You have to have a lot of natual talent to get to the top 100 in even 50 years. Johnnyt
 
John Schmidt....I remembering him say he was running 100's in about 2 years.
 
Gerry said:
John Schmidt....I remembering him say he was running 100's in about 2 years.
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Remember the "American pie" rule?

He had to OD on table time and play 14.1 everyday after getting proficient with many other aspects of the game. If you count the handful of guys that can't run 100 but plays really well, all over the world, there is way more than 100. I don't think it is possible for anyone to be a world beater having picked up a stick 2 years ago. He has to be the Jason Bourne of pool.
 
Not sure how long Jesse Engles played pool but he comes to mind in terms of a 3 year window from no name player to potential world beater.


1000th post!!!!
 
Johnnyt said:
Can someone name me one player that could get the cheese from a top 100 player in the world that has only hit balls for just 3 years? Can someone name me a player that could win a tour stop like the Seminole after only just 3 years of hitting balls? These books, dvd's, instucters, and aiming systems have been around for a lot of years now. If they were the silver bullet you would see 100's of 3 year players out there that rose up to the top 100 in under 3 years. Do I think the info that has come out in the last 20 years or so can help? Yes. I know it can help the time span to get better just because of the not needed trial and error time.

But to get to the top 100 in this game you have to play 8+ hours of pool a day for many years. You have to hang with top players and have no side hobbies like a wife, kids and a job. Oh, and one more thing. You have to have a lot of natual talent to get to the top 100 in even 50 years. Johnnyt
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There is a young guy whose last name is Craig from England who i believe is a Stan Shuffet student , i think he may be married to Stan's daughter , on a stream chat she said he had only been playing 4 years. He plays pretty good , think he finished 5/6 at the JOBS tourny recently.He has a weak break , if he worked on that a little he might be in the area you are talking about.
 
Tony_in_MD said:
How about Ginky, or Mike Coltrain?
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Those guys had to have started young and coached by really good players. Even the really good kids under 18 started around 12-14 years of age with parents and siblings involved in the business.

Its hard to single out a self taught player that got there just on gathering information himself. Even if there are valuable info...a lot of it is the proper application of the information. That will take someone who has been through it to show you how cut the chunk of time off. There are quite a few of the small things that lead to big developments that are just to darn hard to figure out.
 
mrinsatiable said:
Not sure how long Jesse Engles played pool but he comes to mind in terms of a 3 year window from no name player to potential world beater.


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Congrats on your 1000th post. I don't know Jesse Engles, so I can't say for sure, I'm sure someone on here knows him and will say he's played for a lot of years and just stepped into the spotlight in the last 3. Johnnyt
 
Gerry said:
John Schmidt....I remembering him say he was running 100's in about 2 years.
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If John said he was running a 100 balls after just 2 years of picking up a cue I believe him. I have a hunch though that he said or ment 2 years after he took the game very serious. Johnnyt
 
Yes he has been playing longer than 3 years......

Johnnyt said:
Congrats on your 1000th post. I don't know Jesse Engles, so I can't say for sure, I'm sure someone on here knows him and will say he's played for a lot of years and just stepped into the spotlight in the last 3. Johnnyt
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Jesse started playing at the age of 12. He is 19 years old now, so yes he has been playing longer than 3yrs.
 
Some of the leading researchers on "Expertise" suggest 10 years of delibrate practice is typically needed to acquire expert profiency in a given domain.
 
david(tx) said:
There is a young guy whose last name is Craig from England who i believe is a Stan Shuffet student , i think he may be married to Stan's daughter , on a stream chat she said he had only been playing 4 years. He plays pretty good , think he finished 5/6 at the JOBS tourny recently.He has a weak break , if he worked on that a little he might be in the area you are talking about.
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kids name is phil burford....
 
Keith first showed up with his dad at age 13. By age 16 he was taking on the world and winning! He would play in Pay Ball games with the best players on Earth and make them all sweat bullets!
P.S. He first started playing serious money games at age 14. Shannon Daulton was the other early bloomer who was playing for serious cash at age 14, and winning as well.
 
jay helfert said:
Keith first showed up with his dad at age 13. By age 16 he was taking on the world and winning! He would play in Pay Ball games with the best players on Earth and make them all sweat bullets!
P.S. He first started playing serious money games at age 14. Shannon Daulton was the other early bloomer who was playing for serious cash at age 14, and winning as well.
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Keep out of this. You're too hard to fade with this kind of stuff:p. Johnnyt
 
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Bob Jewett said:
How about Wu who at the age of 16 won two world championships? Does that count?
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Bob, come on man. Wu started in middle school and played every day in high school. There is absolutely no way he played 3 years into his claim of those championships. The world championships was held in their home country. They sent their very best to play the event. The country must have tons of extremely well seasoned, knowledgeable players. These guys are the ones teaching players like Wu. And even then, I'm almost certain you would have to be a mutant to play jam up pool in three years....Like Shane ( he did not get there in 3). I don't know if it's truly the case, but there have been times my ears popped from over exerting my muscles. Maybe he was born with it, I'm not sure. All I know is if I went through these last five years a kid, who knows what could have happened to me. I mean I'm not that bright as it is but man, there would be some major damage. Kids are capable of focusing on the task at hand...that's what helps them get there faster than an adult...but there is always something given in exchange for getting there really fast.

To my understanding....you can get there within 10 years if you devote your entire life to it with an extremely advanced player side by side with you ( or a few). I say to be sure you get there 15 years of practice and major seasoning.

Wu could have started at 8 years old. Mechanics though I don't know because I'm not an expert...but I wouldn't recommend it until the kid is somewhat physically developed.
 
My personal educated guess is every player mentioned in this thread got to "A" level in 3 years, and then another 2 to 5 years to get to TOP PRO level.
 
Gerry said:
John Schmidt....I remembering him say he was running 100's in about 2 years.
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Not true, I was playing him at my dads pool room when he was 17-18 y/o. He didn't get to the level you speak of til he was probobly 24-25 y/o.

The only player I heard of making a drastic jump that rapidly was Mark Tadd, I heard it took him about 3 years or so from beginer to playing guys like Ernesto and Morro even in 9-ball.
 
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