Anyone seen the NEW Version of Arizona Billiards News? With the Strip Joint Ads

Do you think Strip Joints Advertising in Pool Publication is good for Pools IMAGE?


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CocoboloCowboy

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Arizona Peeps-Anyone seen the NEW Version of Arizona Billiards News? Do Strip Joint go hand & hand with Pool?

Well as Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. said to his Sergeant; ?Surprise, Surprise?.
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Well I am disappointed as the Paper that I loved when Mike Howerton (aka AZHousePro) put it out as Arizona Billiards News, has changed again for the bad.

Now it is called, The Billiards & Dart NEWS, and the Banner say:

"The Valleys' # 1, Guide to Billiards, Darts, Poker, and Entertainment!"

Looks like a sort of clone to Billiards Table Talk from Dr. Jack with the ads for STRIP Joints that IMHO have ZERO to do with Pool, and will do nothing to enhance the image of Pool in the State of Arizona.
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Sorry I think that Darts, and Poker compliment Pool, go hand in hand with Pool, as many of the Rooms/Bars/Sports Bar have Darts & Poker (Texas Hold-em) going on as the same time as Pool Tournaments.

No I am not a prude, but I see ZERO to enhance the image of Pool by putting STRIP JOINTS in a Pool Publication.

The IMAGE of Pool and how to improve it has been discussed many times on this very forum. If Pools image was better would pool be able to attract more mainstream advertisers like other sports, like NASCAR, NBA, PGA Golf, MLB, NFL, etc?
 
"Baby Got Back"

[Intro]
Oh, my, god. Becky, look at her butt.
It is so big. *scoff* She looks like,
one of those rap guys' girlfriends.
But, you know, who understands those rap guys? *scoff*
They only talk to her, because,
she looks like a total prostitute, 'kay?
I mean, her butt, is just so big.
I can't believe it's just so round, it's like,
out there, I mean - gross. Look!
She's just so ... black!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupie
I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's sweat, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!

(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got back!

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em round, and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for toys
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knock-kneeded bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sisters, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna ******
Till the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna roll in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back!

Baby got back!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".

[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got buns, hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the butt ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waist is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the butt is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got back!

(Little in the middle but she got much back) [4x]


[Thanks to funky_baby_blu13@html.com, permanentdamage2@yahoo.com, pathscrosd@aol.com, justchrissa@yahoo.com, Jaipreet, AJ for correcting these lyrics]

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Like all other publication the ability to survive comes from advertising dollars.
Sounds as if not enough billiard, dart and poker advertisors were able to be found and they needed to look elsewhere to sell ads in order to survive. I see know problem with that as any billiard related newspaper is better than none.
If you have better ideas or suggestions that would work maybe you should contact the editor and offer your valuable help.

Kevin
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
Like all other publication the ability to survive comes from advertising dollars.
Sounds as if not enough billiard, dart and poker advertisors were able to be found and they needed to look elsewhere to sell ads in order to survive. I see know problem with that as any billiard related newspaper is better than none.
If you have better ideas or suggestions that would work maybe you should contact the editor and offer your valuable help.

Kevin
Kevin,
Thank you for posting this. You just said what I was about to say. Do you think the NFL has said to Budweiser..."We don't want your advertising, because beer makes athletes perform worse?"

Who are we to judge?

And who are strippers hurting?
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
Like all other publication the ability to survive comes from advertising dollars.
Sounds as if not enough billiard, dart and poker advertisors were able to be found and they needed to look elsewhere to sell ads in order to survive. I see know problem with that as any billiard related newspaper is better than none.
If you have better ideas or suggestions that would work maybe you should contact the editor and offer your valuable help.

Kevin
Ditto.............
 
worldison2 said:
Kevin,
Thank you for posting this. You just said what I was about to say. Do you think the NFL has said to Budweiser..."We don't want your advertising, because beer makes athletes perform worse?"

Who are we to judge?

And who are strippers hurting?
They've been known to hurt my wallet..... :(
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Arizona Peeps-Anyone seen the NEW Version of Arizona Billiards News? Do Strip Joint go hand & hand with Pool?

Well as Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. said to his Sergeant; ?Surprise, Surprise?.
flyingbrick.gif



Well I am disappointed as the Paper that I loved when Mike Howerton (aka AZHousePro) put it out as Arizona Billiards News, has changed again for the bad.

Now it is called, The Billiards & Dart NEWS, and the Banner say:

"The Valleys' # 1, Guide to Billiards, Darts, Poker, and Entertainment!"

Looks like a sort of clone to Billiards Table Talk from Dr. Jack with the ads for STRIP Joints that IMHO have ZERO to do with Pool, and will do nothing to enhance the image of Pool in the State of Arizona.
angeryonfire.gif


Sorry I think that Darts, and Poker compliment Pool, go hand in hand with Pool, as many of the Rooms/Bars/Sports Bar have Darts & Poker (Texas Hold-em) going on as the same time as Pool Tournaments.

No I am not a prude, but I see ZERO to enhance the image of Pool by putting STRIP JOINTS in a Pool Publication.

The IMAGE of Pool and how to improve it has been discussed many times on this very forum. If Pools image was better would pool be able to attract more mainstream advertisers like other sports, like NASCAR, NBA, PGA Golf, MLB, NFL, etc?

Sex sells, you are a prude, and the best way to improve pool's popularity is to glorify the most unsavory aspects of the game.

P.S. Have you looked at ANY of the avators from this message board EVER?
 
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I agree that pools image needs to be cleaned up as we have all said at some point in one thread or another. However, advertizing $$ are needed and sometimes the pool and billiard industry don't have the $$ to support a newspaper. So in order to have a pool/billiards related paper out there they have to take what they can get. Its a catch 22 I'm afraid, if Heff decided to hold the playboy tour or Playboy pool challenge and add a load of $$ should the industry say "NAAH thats Heff but we are trying to clean up the sport" ? Especially right now we have to get we we can get. Although I wish it were Nike or Microsoft advertising instead.
 
Advertising revenue is what supports newspapers like this, just like the daily newspaper. Take what you can get. Last I heard, stripping wasn't illegal. So the "immorality" of it bothers you, you want to censor it, and you're not a prude? I think strippers should get free table time...
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I am shocked to think that anyone reading a billiard related publication would darken the door of a strip club. Say it isn't so. According to demographics the churches advertise in the living sections of your local rag while the clubs buy space in the sports sections. Go figure. And futhermore, since I am a Chevy man I would be offended if any Billiard Flyer sold add space to a Ford dealer. Ignore the ads if you're not going to take advantage of 5$ lap dance Tequilla Tuesdays.
 
It's hard for me to say this, but, um, I agree with you Coco. I think what he has done to the paper is just flushed it down the toilet. All this bragging about only reporting billiard news and only the facts no opinion articles, blah blah blah, and then you change it with trashy strip club ads?!?

It's not about the $$$'s here guys, its about the competition. There are 2 other local newspapers in the area already, one that already has all the trashy strip club photo's and so-so articles and the other the Valley Billiards News has original content, great articles, quality ad's, etc.

The big difference between the two is that the Valley Billiards News paper actually has persons writting quality stories, attending multiple events, talking to the players, etc. While this one just gets stories off of azpoolscene.com and articles that are submitted from a few locations.

In the latest edition, there is the story from azpoolscene about Scott Frost winning the State 1-pocket tournament, except he didn't have enough room so he cut off half the article. Try reading only the first 4 sections of this story: http://www.azpoolscene.com/BreakingNews215.html and that is it? What about the rest? The parts about the winners? Or thanking the establishments and sponsors? Then the paper takes up half of the page to show the payouts and standings.

Doesn't look like that paper is going to be around long.
 
illusivetrout said:
Yes Mr.Cowboy. I agree it is disappointing. It cheapens the image of pool players.

Totally. Strip club ads do cheapen the image of pool players.

Now if we could only figure out the other 98% of what cheapens our image we're ready for prime time.

:rolleyes:

Strip clubs advertise in lots of publications.
 
"Hard" to Tell

CocoboloCowboy said:
Arizona Peeps-Anyone seen the NEW Version of Arizona Billiards News? Do Strip Joint go hand & hand with Pool?

Well as Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. said to his Sergeant; ?Surprise, Surprise?.
flyingbrick.gif



Well I am disappointed as the Paper that I loved when Mike Howerton (aka AZHousePro) put it out as Arizona Billiards News, has changed again for the bad.

Now it is called, The Billiards & Dart NEWS, and the Banner say:

"The Valleys' # 1, Guide to Billiards, Darts, Poker, and Entertainment!"

Looks like a sort of clone to Billiards Table Talk from Dr. Jack with the ads for STRIP Joints that IMHO have ZERO to do with Pool, and will do nothing to enhance the image of Pool in the State of Arizona.
angeryonfire.gif


Sorry I think that Darts, and Poker compliment Pool, go hand in hand with Pool, as many of the Rooms/Bars/Sports Bar have Darts & Poker (Texas Hold-em) going on as the same time as Pool Tournaments.

No I am not a prude, but I see ZERO to enhance the image of Pool by putting STRIP JOINTS in a Pool Publication.

The IMAGE of Pool and how to improve it has been discussed many times on this very forum. If Pools image was better would pool be able to attract more mainstream advertisers like other sports, like NASCAR, NBA, PGA Golf, MLB, NFL, etc?


I don't know Coco????? I might need some visuals to make a decision. Can we at least get a link to the paper in question? ;)

Thanks,

Ray
 
rayjay said:
Advertising revenue is what supports newspapers like this, just like the daily newspaper. Take what you can get. Last I heard, stripping wasn't illegal. So the "immorality" of it bothers you, you want to censor it, and you're not a prude? I think strippers should get free table time...:p


round here they're eligible to get a big boner when on the table
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
The IMAGE of Pool and how to improve it has been discussed many times on this very forum. If Pools image was better would pool be able to attract more mainstream advertisers like other sports, like NASCAR, NBA, PGA Golf, MLB, NFL, etc?

Has it occurred to you that maybe it isn't pool's image? Curling has a pretty clean reputation, and you don't see Budweiser and Miller tripping over each other to give that game any advertising dollars.

Face it, the game just isn't that entertaining to watch. A bunch of well mannered pool players in suits would probably hurt our chances at mainstream if anything.
 
rayjay said:
Advertising revenue is what supports newspapers like this, just like the daily newspaper. Take what you can get. Last I heard, stripping wasn't illegal. So the "immorality" of it bothers you, you want to censor it, and you're not a prude? I think strippers should get free table time...
:p

Only in their company uniform! :grin-square:

Ray
 
Beggers cant be choosers, right now considering the state of pool any ad revnue $$$$ is a good thing. I do think if they were peddeling XXX porn videos then that would ccross the line. But strip joints are a generally acceptable biz in most of America. Pool rooms are a acceptable biz in America too but, read on....

I have read alot of leases for shopping centers and they say specifically that pool rooms are a prohibited use of the space for lease. They will specify that if its a bar/tavern just how many tables are acceptable. This depends on the shopping center owners, this isnt a Govt thing. It can be with zoning laws, but some shopping center owners just dont want poolrooms because they think there could be problems or it could hurt the value of the property. Which as a property owner I understand. What irritates me is that they dont spell out many different business specifically-poolrooms are one of the few. They dont spell out strip joints because the zoning rergulations where they are at usually is differrent than where most poolrooms are at. Not to say its awalys like that but strip joints fall into a small classifaction of land usage.


There is zero harm in advertizing them in a pool related thing, I DESPISE and it P****** me off when I see them advertize on taxi cabs in Vegas, there is more T&A driving all over Vegas than you can imagine and when my ex-girls daughter knew as much about strippers when she was 10 as I did it-woke me up, i knew kids are switched on now days but wow-she knew way to much, she was so young she wasnt shy/embarassed to tell me what she knew or had memorized-scary, she is 14 and i havent spoke to her in a while, i think she is done meaning she will be dancing soon enough, thats a different topic.


In a publication who's market is adults or close to it there is no harm. And this is comming from a guy who dosent go to strip clubs unless i have to to keep a client happy or something, its been years since i been to one, i hate them, and the chix that hustle in them. I like chix but not strppers.
 
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