Kim played in the Music City Open this January and shot pretty sporty.
Yeah........ kinda.... maybe............................................... shadow might know.Devils Advocate, if the “night club” scene is bringing in the money, why change it to cater to the serious players? (And I’m assuming it is, but no idea).
That’s what Freezer’s did.
They still have pool league but don't run tournaments anymore. The tables are playable, but even their management will admit the pool tables are not their priority. If I was as successful as they are, I wouldn't care about the pool tables either. To their credit, at least they're not advertising that they're a pool hall. They cater to their demographic and it's working.I have not heard a good payer review of "Mills Modern Social" either.
I have no idea how the business is doing after being converted to basically a sports bar (from what I've heard).
Even when I was in AZ, I never went to MMS.
On the other hand, if they are making hand over foot in money, why not keep the tables tip top? Even if it's not the core business, it would show pride of ownership. I'm making a lot of assumptions in this postThey still have pool league but don't run tournaments anymore. The tables are playable, but even their management will admit the pool tables are not their priority. If I was as successful as they are, I wouldn't care about the pool tables either. To their credit, at least they're not advertising that they're a pool hall. They cater to their demographic and it's working.
As a poolroom / grill owner and manager for the past 27 years, there is absolutely no excuse for a dirty neglected pool table in a poolroom - just a bottom line reflection of poor management and absentee owners.On the other hand, if they are making hand over foot in money, why not keep the tables tip top? Even if it's not the core business, it would show pride of ownership. I'm making a lot of assumptions in this post![]()
Very few pro pool players are good at managing food and beverage business's...On the other hand, if they are making hand over foot in money, why not keep the tables tip top? Even if it's not the core business, it would show pride of ownership. I'm making a lot of assumptions in this post![]()
Oscar Dominguez is certainly one who appears to be successfully owning / managing the various revenue producing aspects of Hard Times Billiards in Sacramento, with the help of his wife and his father. Knowing his Dad as I have for 25+ years, this comes as no surprise to me.Very few pro pool players are good at managing food and beverage business's...
On a similar note, same goes with creating a Viable pro tour.
Larry Hubbart and Terry Bell are one of the few exceptions, they steered away from the pros.... formed the APA.
Agreed. There is a Dave and Busters near Cincinnati Ohio that had 9ft tables, like 5 of them, and they were kept in great condition. They even had a 5x10 snooker table at one point. Would be interested to see if they are still there.Add the Dave and Buster's chain to the list of places going away from dealing with pool, two of the ones I visited I knew had tables in earlier to play a bit while waiting for some things had removed their pool tables, and two new ones I have visited never had any put in. They had some good quality tables, good looking and solid, and kept in good shape.
I'm with you here Chris. My Day man had this job at the start of every day, and at night I did it! Those tables were each making me about $80-100 a day! I would be a fool not to take care of them. Clean restrooms were also a priority! Your customers (especially women) will not patronize a place with dirty restrooms! I always had a guy who did clean up duty twice a day. Empty the trash containers, clean the restrooms, and pick up all debris left around the poolroom, inside and outside! I probably acquired a couple of dozen sunglasses every year. Rarely did someone come back for their missing sunglasses. We found maybe one cell phone per week. They always came back for them, usually the very next day.As a poolroom / grill owner and manager for the past 27 years, there is absolutely no excuse for a dirty neglected pool table in a poolroom - just a bottom line reflection of poor management and absentee owners.
It takes less than 5 minutes/day to brush down a table a few times a day and less than 10 minutes per table once a week to thoroughly shop vac a table surface, under the rails and in the pockets. Then about once a month after vacuuming, less than 10 minutes per table to wet down the cloth with a wrung out folded wet towel to remove all the chalk dust and bring back some color.
That’s next to nothing compared to what it takes daily to keep the flooring surfaces and restrooms looking clean and nice in a poolroom / bar / grill, which I’d guess are not all that well kept at this place either. I can only imagine what you might see in their kitchen.
I was the house pro at Yankee Doodles in Belmont Shores in 1989-91. I turned you down for a game if you recall. You had already beaten a couple of guys who I couldn't beat. I'm no fool! I may have asked you to play Banks though. That's was always my line with good players. I knew I had a chance at the game.Yep Chris, I matched up with all the W. Coast Mex. players from the 70's thru 80's.... great group of men.
King Kong, Paez, nesto, Arturo, Barber, Little Al and few others.
Enjoyed locking horns with em all in my youth, cept Romero, wasn't able to handle him yet.
I actually got Dave Thompson (writer/camera man) into the game during the Belmont Shores/Horney corner days.
A intercoastal waterway strip that had waaaaaaaaaaay too many bumper accidents while driving and looking at the half naked women 'struttin'. They then stopped allowing cars to drive this walk/strut way during the summer months.
Too many distracted drivers.![]()
Apparently it wasn’t working. You can’t hide bad management for long.They still have pool league but don't run tournaments anymore. The tables are playable, but even their management will admit the pool tables are not their priority. If I was as successful as they are, I wouldn't care about the pool tables either. To their credit, at least they're not advertising that they're a pool hall. They cater to their demographic and it's working.
My post was referring to the old "Freezer's" which is now Mill's Modern Social. They have a line out the door to get in most nights. Their management is doing fantastic.Apparently it wasn’t working. You can’t hide bad management for long.
Understood. I was referring to Archer’s Place.My post was referring to the old "Freezer's" which is now Mill's Modern Social. They have a line out the door to get in most nights. Their management is doing fantastic.