Are making joint protectors a pain in the a..

Derrick Steel

Derrick Steel

.....Viper Killer.....
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I am curious how most cuemakers feel about making joint protectors. Do you generally make them upon your customer's request with a cue order or are they a pain in the a.. to make and you won't build them? I have had a difficult time getting the origional cuemakers to make them. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. :smile:
 
I think many cuemakers value their time too much. In pretty much the same amount of time would you rather spend it making a $30 jp or a $200 shaft?;) I'd rather refer jp request to someone who does it full time like Baxter or Alton...they appreciate the business.
 
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Varney Cues said:
I think many cuemakers value their time too much. In pretty much the same amount of time would you rather spend it making a $30 jp or a $200 shaft?;) I'd rather refer jp request to someone who does it full time like Baxter or Alton...they appreciate the business.
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Heck, I even send Alton the parts to match my collars.
 
viperkiler said:
I am curious how most cuemakers feel about making joint protectors. Do you generally make them upon your customer's request with a cue order or are they a pain in the a.. to make and you won't build them? I have had a difficult time getting the origional cuemakers to make them. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. :smile:
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I have equipment set up for each step in building cues so that I can build them in a very timely manner. I don't have the same set ups for joint protectors. I can build a shaft for about 15.00 more in material than one joint protector and probably in less time. I furnish plastic joint protectors with each cue that I build but if someone demands matching protectors the price is between 125 and 150.00 per protector depending on the complexity of the deco-ring.

Dick
 
Thank you for the responses! You have made some valid points that I hadn't thought of. :thumbup:
 
making joint protectors really takes time, but for me time is nothing compare to the protection that was given by it. If my cues has no protector, then the cues suffered a problem to the area where protector is needed, more time will be consume to fix it and lots of things will be sacrifice. just playing safe....
 
What folks fail to realize is that the J/P's require the same amount of work and more materials than the entire joint of the cue. Finishing them is no pic-nic, either. Of all the jobs in building cues, I hate J/P's the most. I'd rather cut 1000 shafts than to make one set of J/P's. Even Alton doesn't like doing it and it's his specialty :eek:
 
My shop is set up to do j/ps, and poolcues take back seat . J/ps come 1st. Several cue makers send their rings and stuff to help hold the cost down to the buyer . we love doing j/ps. Thanks Jim
 
Jim Baxter said:
My shop is set up to do j/ps, and poolcues take back seat . J/ps come 1st. Several cue makers send their rings and stuff to help hold the cost down to the buyer . we love doing j/ps. Thanks Jim
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Jim, You have one J/P on your gallery that I don't understand. It's a long cocobolo one with a penny in it. Why is it so long?
Alan
P.S. Not intending to highjack the thread, and it is related to J/P.
 
Alan said:
Jim, You have one J/P on your gallery that I don't understand. It's a long cocobolo one with a penny in it. Why is it so long?
Alan
P.S. Not intending to highjack the thread, and it is related to J/P.
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Alan I haven't seen the pic you mention & not to speak for Jim...but...often a longer JP is made to cover some of the longer pins used today like a Radial. The shorter protectors are for the shafts & longer ones for the butts.:wink:

Edited to add: Alan I see the pic you are talking about & I have no idea. It has a pin so its for a shaft. The only thing I can think of is that maybe its for a much shorter shaft, like on a specialty jump cue. The longer jp may provide a handle for access in certain types of cases. Maybe Jim will chime in with the real reason.
 
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Alan I haven't seen the pic you mention & not to speak for Jim...but...often a longer JP is made to cover some of the longer pins used today like a Radial. The shorter protectors are for the shafts & longer ones for the butts.:wink:

Edited to add: Alan I see the pic you are talking about & I have no idea. It has a pin so its for a shaft. The only thing I can think of is that maybe its for a much shorter shaft, like on a specialty jump cue. The longer jp may provide a handle for access in certain types of cases. Maybe Jim will chime in with the real reason.
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Hi I answered Alan by PM. This was a extention for a guy in Wyoming. He had a short butt or shaft and had to turn his case upside down to get it out. Evidently worked becouse I haven't heard to the contrary . I have the one in the picture , The pin was on the wrong pc, I think. Jim
 
Jim Baxter said:
He had a short butt or shaft and had to turn his case upside down to get it out.
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Hello Jim. My guess was correct then...a short shaft was the only thing that made sense. Thank you sir for taking the time to answer...I myself was curious after seeing the pic. Hope things are going smooth as possible for you my friend & have a wonderful Christmas. :smile:
 
It used to be J/P's were an afterthought, not anymore. A matching set for a fancy cue can add 10% or more to the final cost, but they are worth it in the end. The same execution, quality, and finish goes into them and it shows.
 
Add to all this if the cuemakers pin is installed off center you still have to make everything match up or you skills will be in question.
 
I only do it for friends. They are a pain in the butt. I did it as a favor for one cue bc I missed my deadline and wanted to reward the customer for his patience but I got yelled at kinda so that's the last set I made. :wink:
 
dave sutton said:
I only do it for friends. They are a pain in the butt. I did it as a favor for one cue bc I missed my deadline and wanted to reward the customer for his patience but I got yelled at kinda so that's the last set I made. :wink:
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y would you get yelled at for making JP's?
 
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