Another bank attributed to Eddie Taylor...
There are still people who think this bank is impossible.
Do you think Freddie's advice to use maximum side (3 tips) is best? I'd think less is more.There are still people who think this bank is impossible.
His three tips might be different from yours. The cut looks to be about half-ball to the wrong side, so you do need a fair amount to just get to even. But I agree -- probably not max.Do you think Freddie's advice to use maximum side (3 tips) is best? I'd think less is more.
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There are people who think the earth is flatAnother bank attributed to Eddie Taylor...
There are still people who think this bank is impossible.
With a fullish hit it's easy to use too much side spin and actually reduce the amount of transferred spin. With a dead straight hit anything over half of maximum side spin reduces transferred spin - this shot looks like about a 3/4 hit, so probably about 70% of max (50% + 20%) is best. That might be about what Freddy meant by "three tips".If you hit closer to the pocket, less english will do the trick. They probably hit it so wide to insure it banks though.
That's also a Ronnie Allen story I've heard.Can’t believe I heard Nicki Vacc’s name. Remember as a kid in the 50s seeing him make all kinds of proposition games with some the best hustlers in Atlantic City. The one that stood out was Nicki playing Bridgeton Herbie something like 10-3 one pocket, but Herbie could only use his shaft. After a couple of losing sessions Herbie got a repair man to drill out his shaft and load it with some weight. Needless to say, the stakes were raised and Herbie robbed him.
Why would spin transfer be reduced when using more spin on the cue ball??With a fullish hit it's easy to use too much side spin and actually reduce the amount of transferred spin. With a dead straight hit anything over half of maximum side spin reduces transferred spin - this shot looks like about a 3/4 hit, so probably about 70% of max (50% + 20%) is best. That might be about what Freddy meant by "three tips".
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Friction is complicated. You can think of it as similar to the case of trying to start a car on ice -- slower works better. The faster two surfaces are slipping against each other, the less is the force of friction.Why would spin transfer be reduced when using more spin on the cue ball??
Why would spin transfer be reduced when using more spin on the cue ball??
The reason why CIT is less at faster speeds and inside spin at larger cut angles and SIT is less with more sidespin is: friction is less at faster sliding speeds between the ball surfaces. With more cut angle and speed or with an amount of sidespin very different from the gearing amount, the CB slides along the OB with faster relative speed during contact, producing less throwing force. One possible reason for this is that the air compressed between the balls during contact doesn’t get out of the way as easily with a faster relative surface speed. Also, maybe with faster relative surface speed, the asperities (small but rough features) on the surfaces don’t interact, catch, or lock as easily since they are hitting, flexing, and vibrating more dynamically.
Getting a car moving on ice and spinning the tires vs slowly accelerating is a great analogy.Friction is complicated. You can think of it as similar to the case of trying to start a car on ice -- slower works better. The faster two surfaces are slipping against each other, the less is the force of friction.
One of the results of that is that soft shots can throw more than hard shots.
A second result is that for cuts thinner than about half ball, inside english will tend to reduce throw.
The story about Detroit Whitey's kids was pretty chilling, TBH.I like Freddy. His commentating and videos.
He needed a better editor (friend) for his Encyclopedia of Hustlers though. Some things better left unsaid.
Dude should've been fired.
What does hold true for a ball into a cushion is that above a certain number of RPMs (for a fixed speed and going straight into the cushion) the angle out of the cushion does not change. That maximum angle is about 45 degrees.Getting a car moving on ice and spinning the tires vs slowly accelerating is a great analogy.
I would assume the above does not hold true for a ball contacting a rail because the rail compresses so much and relative contact time is so much longer, more spin RPM's equal more angle change.