Best cue ball ever

Cornerman said:
The Centennial blue dot was from Hyatt (Albany), and the Centennial blue circle was most defintely from Saluc Aramith afterwards. Whether there was some other blue circle before Albany’s blue dot , I don’t know. Maybe it as a different shade of blue? I grew up in the transition of blue dot to blue circle (US Albany to Belgian Saluc Centennials). I know those two pretty well. My blue dot is noticeably smaller from wear.

Maybe the Blue Circle that the OP (Michael) is reminiscing about is the older one.


Freddie <~~~ the plot thickens
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Good question Freddie, but I go back to the mid 60s in pool rooms, which had Centennial balls, with Blue Circle cue balls. I really doubt that we were importing cue balls then. Later in the 70s, the cue balls tended to be replaced with Blue Dot cue balls. My theory is that both were originally made by Hyatt, or Albany Ball company, whichever you call it. I think one was a subdivision of the other.

Wouldn't you know it, both are still made today, by Aramith. But, different resins.

All the best,
WW
 
Mind you, chalk retention on the cue ball has a lot to do with

a) if the cue ball is new or heavily used (because all those micro-scratches retain chalk

b) how porous/polished the original surface is

c) how fast a certain resin gets scratched by use

I just noticed a) recently in combination with Kamui chalk (which I will never buy again due to all the dirt it produces on the table and the balls). When I had a brand new set of balls (Aramith Tournament Pro Cup) and simultaneously bought 2 pieces of Kamui chalk I did not know what all the complaints about chalk on whitey were all about. For a month or two I could not see much difference compared to Master's chalk. After 1 yr. now and some heavy use on the cue ball it retains Kamui chalk really badly. I had a brand new spare cue ball (Super Aramith Pro TV Cup, which is supposedly one grade below the Tournament balls) and compared the chalk marks on both. Almost no chalk marks on the brand new measles ball, lots on my old measles ball.

Just sayin' this might be one of the reasons why the Blue Circle balls may retain more chalk nowadays - because the ones around are usually heavily used.

I don't know enough about b) and c) with regard to BC balls so this might be the major factor. Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.
 
Centennials are available new at many billiard sites as well as Amazon. They still come with the blue circle cue ball.
I have centennials on my gold crown and they play very well. I have 2 more blue circle CB's from old sets. Major difference between all the blue circles I have is some are caramel color . The one That came with the newer set is whiter to match the white on the object balls.
Someone told me that the darker CB's are 2nds. I dont know

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Gunn_Slinger said:
Centennials are available new at many billiard sites as well as Amazon. They still come with the blue circle cue ball.
I have centennials on my gold crown and they play very well. I have 2 more blue circle CB's from old sets. Major difference between all the blue circles I have is some are caramel color . The one That came with the newer set is whiter to match the white on the object balls.
Someone told me that the darker CB's are 2nds. I dont know

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brunswick-...m=362167703817&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598

https://smile.amazon.com/Cue-Case-S...&keywords=brunswick+centennial+billiard+balls
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From what I could see yesterday, finding sets wasn't an issue, but finding just the blue circle CB was a bit more of an effort.
 
I ordered a blue circle cue ball from The Billiards Warehouse about a year ago. It does seem a little heavier than an Aramith red circle cue ball, but I don’t have a scale to confirm that.
 
skankhammer said:
I ordered a blue circle cue ball from The Billiards Warehouse about a year ago. It does seem a little heavier than an Aramith red circle cue ball, but I don’t have a scale to confirm that.
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This one is direct from Brunswick, so... we'll see what happens.
 
At the Corner Bank yesterday, during the Canadian championships, I got to try a Moori
Jewel....the guy said they hit as good as the original Mooris....I agree.

We went to the seven footers to get away from the action....
...on the table was the Diamond red circle cue ball for Smart tables....
...it’s got a bit of age on it....and still the best looking cue ball in the room.

I used to be a red dot and then a red circle fan....not any more.
 
pt109 said:
At the Corner Bank yesterday, during the Canadian championships, I got to try a Moori
Jewel....the guy said they hit as good as the original Mooris....I agree.

We went to the seven footers to get away from the action....
...on the table was the Diamond red circle cue ball for Smart tables....
...it’s got a bit of age on it....and still the best looking cue ball in the room.

I used to be a red dot and then a red circle fan....not any more.
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I'm not aware of a Diamond Red Circle, unless you're referring to the Cyclop large red dot cue ball (dot is the same size as the measle ball dots) that comes with the Cyclop ball sets that Diamond sells off their website. The only red circle I'm aware of is the Aramith red circle.
 
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pt109 said:
At the Corner Bank yesterday, during the Canadian championships, I got to try a Moori
Jewel....the guy said they hit as good as the original Mooris....I agree.

We went to the seven footers to get away from the action....
...on the table was the Diamond red circle cue ball for Smart tables....
...it’s got a bit of age on it....and still the best looking cue ball in the room.

I used to be a red dot and then a red circle fan....not any more.
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I'll have to give it a try sometime.
 
hang-the-9 said:
That is most likely the Cyclop ball.

I really don't like the milky white coating it has on it, makes is weird to look at when aiming for me.

I find that any of the top tier sets play well, issue comes when you start to mix and match cueball models to the rest of the set. The top cueballs work out OK when mixed, so the measels ball, the standard Aramith Pro ball and the Centenial blue circle play pretty much the same. At one Joss event I played in at Snookers they used Centennial balls but brought in some other cueball. All I heard and experienced was about issues with it. It was heavier and newer than the rest of the set, so followed more. To play a stop shot you needed to hit with a bit of draw, and stun shots ended up pushing forward more. In an event where you have high level players, the few times that cueball messed up your position can cost you the match. By the time you figured out how to play with it, and fought against years of muscle memory, it was too late.
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I play at Snookers all the time and have for years. They used to have centennial balls with the matching blue circle cue ball. For a couple of week period, they got measle cue balls with the centennial object balls. This may be the period you mean. Then they simply got the super aramith pro set with measle cue balls.

With respect, what you are describing does not match my experience at all. While measle cue balls *feel* like they are heavier than the blue circle, they are not. In most cases the blue circle weighs the same or a gram or 2 more. The idea of pushing through the object ball simply doesn't happen. I don't know the explanation for why the measle ball feels heavier, but my digital scale knows that it is not.

Currently the balls at Snookers play excellent.

You can test the weights for yourself.

KMRUNOUT


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About a month ago I went to Buffallos’s and weighed several sets of balls and all the cue balls I could get. Most of the balls weighted 167 grams. A few Centennial balls were undersized and weighed less. All the measle balls weighed 167-168g.
One red circle was 156g, one was 167, several were around 164 or so. Blue circles were 167.
 
bbb said:
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About a month ago I went to Buffallos’s and weighed several sets of balls and all the cue balls I could get. Most of the balls weighted 167 grams. A few Centennial balls were undersized and weighed less. All the measle balls weighed 167-168g.
One red circle was 156g, one was 167, several were around 164 or so. Blue circles were 167.
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Other than that one being 11grams light there's NO way anyone could tell the difference in those weighing-in at 167-68gms. My favorite cueball? A ROUND one. You'll adjust to the wt. in a few shots but a out-of-round one is no good.
 
KMRUNOUT said:
I play at Snookers all the time and have for years. They used to have centennial balls with the matching blue circle cue ball. For a couple of week period, they got measle cue balls with the centennial object balls. This may be the period you mean. Then they simply got the super aramith pro set with measle cue balls.

With respect, what you are describing does not match my experience at all. While measle cue balls *feel* like they are heavier than the blue circle, they are not. In most cases the blue circle weighs the same or a gram or 2 more. The idea of pushing through the object ball simply doesn't happen. I don't know the explanation for why the measle ball feels heavier, but my digital scale knows that it is not.

Currently the balls at Snookers play excellent.

You can test the weights for yourself.

KMRUNOUT


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I run into a fair amount of guys who don't like playing with the measel ball because they insist they are heavier. A few have even said they've weighed them and yes, much heavier.

I broke the news to them that if the scale was good and they were getting much heavier readings then those particular measels were prob counterfeits.

Counterfeits def show up from time to time.

Be careful from where you buy. :wink:

best,
brian kc
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
I run into a fair amount of guys who don't like playing with the measel ball because they insist they are heavier. A few have even said they've weighed them and yes, much heavier.

I broke the news to them that if the scale was good and they were getting much heavier readings then those particular measels were prob counterfeits.

Counterfeits def show up from time to time.

Be careful from where you buy. :wink:

best,
brian kc
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I have had a few and am currently playing with a measles ball knock off. Ive tried 2 different ones. There is a $6-8 one that is a polyester resin, its complete junk. It doesnt play right and is said to shatter if you break with it.

The one Im playing around with currently, is a $12 version that is phenolic. It really surprised me, it is a decent ball that plays well. I havent weighed it, but I did mic it, and its good size wise. Maybe I got lucky and got a good one, who knows.

I dont practice breaking these days, so it may shatter easily though, idk. :grin:
 
i have a new set of centennial balls including the blue circle and two extra blue circle balls new
for sale

PM me
 
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