Best Cue Sport Player of All Time

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Just wondering who everybody thinks is the best over all cueist of all time.

Including all of the major games: 8-ball, 9-ball, straight pool, one pocket, 3 cushion, snooker, banks.

Am I leaving any games out?

If you want, list the best at individual games as well.

Its a toss up for me between Efren and Mosconi.
 
jason said:
Just wondering who everybody thinks is the best over all cueist of all time.

Including all of the major games: 8-ball, 9-ball, straight pool, one pocket, 3 cushion, snooker, banks.

Am I leaving any games out?

If you want, list the best at individual games as well.

Its a toss up for me between Efren and Mosconi.
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Playing all games? I would have to take Mizerak
 
jason said:
Just wondering who everybody thinks is the best over all cueist of all time.
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Harold Worst has been regarded as the most feared player in all cue games, although I'm not sure about snooker. He won world titles in 3 cushion as well as pocket billiards, and was a fearsome back room player. His untimely death came in 1966 at only 37 years old. There is no one playing today of Worst's caliber all-around.

Doc
 
Blohmdal, Reyes, O'Sullivan and Worst are probably the top 4. I don't think anyone can conclusively say either of the 4 are any better than the others because there are just too many disciplines to factor here. They're all amazingly talented, yet each have their weaknesses -- and their weaknesses are still better than 99% of most cuists anyway.
 
Mizerak, Reyes, Dalton, Sigel, Varner..... these are some of the tops in more than one game. Mizerak is the only one who could play really competative snooker, Efren is a good choice, but The Miz I think had him.
Chuck
 
gulfportdoc said:
Harold Worst has been regarded as the most feared player in all cue games, although I'm not sure about snooker. He won world titles in 3 cushion as well as pocket billiards, and was a fearsome back room player. His untimely death came in 1966 at only 37 years old. There is no one playing today of Worst's caliber all-around.

Doc
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harold worst was great no doubt... but nowhere close to efrens speed
 
My top five of all time are:

1. Efren Reyes
2. Efren Reyes
3. Efren Reyes
4. Efren reyes
5. Raymond Ceulemans

PS Though he was a great player, I don't see how one can rate Harold Worst above his more successful contemporary Luther Lassiter.
 
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branpureza said:
harold worst was great no doubt... but nowhere close to efrens speed
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Apart from your reverence of Efren, what are you basing your opinion on? Efren's pool-playing prowess is legendary, and understood by everyone; but which 3C, carom, or snooker titles has he won?

Doc
 
gulfportdoc said:
Apart from your reverence of Efren, what are you basing your opinion on? Efren's pool-playing prowess is legendary, and understood by everyone; but which 3C, carom, or snooker titles has he won?

Doc
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At one time Efren was regarded a monster 3-C player winning tournaments for years in Asia and the U.S....but I know from good reference that he hates snooker. Fred, wanna bail me out here?

Best all-around...could be Efren, could be Worst, Crane or Hoppe. We'll simply never know due to the time difference.

Ali or Tyson?
Bobby Jones or Woods?
Borg or Federer?
Hendrix or the WORLD? :D
 
Hoppe couldnt play pocket billiards.
1.Mosconi
2.Greenleaf
3.Reyes
4.Mizerak
5.Lassiter
I know 4 out of the 5 were straight pool terrors but they could play all games well when it came to pocket billiards,let them play 9 ball or 1 pocket,8 and outs along with runouts all day and all night.
 
Fast Lenny said:
Hoppe couldnt play pocket billiards.

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I've heard reports that Hoppe "didn't like to" play pool, but actually could play pool and was quite exceptional at 14.1.

Maybe some of the old-timers can weigh in.

Fred
 
Well it was said Mosconi could play 3 cushion at a high level but Hoppe couldnt play pockets at a high level,Mosconi said this.
 
I have a book by Mike Shamos and I do believe it says that both Mosconi and Crane played very high level 3C along with being pocket world champions. Neither of them won a 3C world title, but from what I understand they could hang with the best in the world.
 
Boston Shorty...

Anytime you throw in 3-cushion I have to consider Larry (Boston Shorty) Johnson...Shorty doesn't have the record of a Mosconi but I'd put him up against pool player in 3-cushion...or straight rails for that matter. And if you could have a tournament with all those players and all those games...well it wouldn't be the first time that Shorty would be Best All-Around...
 
You can't forget Steve Davis. He is the Willie Mosconi of Snooker. One of the greatest snooker players ever and has done very well against the best 9 ball has to offer, especially considering he only plays three tournaments a year.

Then there is Stephen Hendry, arguably THE greatest snooker player of all time. People often forget about Hendry and look toward Ronnie, partially because Ronnie is quicker and more exciting. But Ronnie as incredible as he is, doesn't have the mental game that Stephen Hendry had.

I can't say who is the greatest cueist ever because I haven't watched them all play, so I can't make an informed decision. Each player that is mentioned generally played in a different era with different players. Efren never had to play Greenleaf on a 5 by 10, in 14.1.
 
Cameron Smith said:
You can't forget Steve Davis. He is the Willie Mosconi of Snooker. One of the greatest snooker players ever and has done very well against the best 9 ball has to offer, especially considering he only plays three tournaments a year.

Then there is Stephen Hendry, arguably THE greatest snooker player of all time. People often forget about Hendry and look toward Ronnie, partially because Ronnie is quicker and more exciting. But Ronnie as incredible as he is, doesn't have the mental game that Stephen Hendry had.

I can't say who is the greatest cueist ever because I haven't watched them all play, so I can't make an informed decision. Each player that is mentioned generally played in a different era with different players. Efren never had to play Greenleaf on a 5 by 10, in 14.1.
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I agree about Hendry.............but my pick for the all round game is George Chenier.........North american snooker champ. for 22 yrs (1948-70) I beleive..........nobody could beat him....many tried.........played all games very strong....deadly 14:1 player, and 3c............First pool player in the canadian sports hall of fame.
 
RoblinRebel said:
I agree about Hendry.............but my pick for the all round game is George Chenier.........North american snooker champ. for 22 yrs (1948-70) I beleive..........nobody could beat him....many tried.........played all games very strong....deadly 14:1 player, and 3c............First pool player in the canadian sports hall of fame.
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I've never heard of him. Snooker! 14.1 !! Canadian!!! I'm changing my vote :D

Speaking of Canadians, Cyrille Dion should be mentioned. He was the first world champion (1878). Also a world billiards champ too I think.
 
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