Best Hard Tip Out There?
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While I don't use hard tips on my own cues, I do install quite a few hard tips for local players. I have had lots of good feedback on Sting Ray tips. Sting Rays are sold as a Medium Hard tip but their hardness rating of 83.2 indicate that they should really be classified as a hard tip. They keep their shape and hold chalk really well and are not overly prone to miscuing (although IMO all hard tips are more prone to miscues than Med Hard or Soft tips).
When all is said and done the best tip (like the best wine) is the one YOU like.
When all is said and done the best tip (like the best wine) is the one YOU like.
Kamui H- Black (play and break tip)
I shape to perfect dime radius, spinning it. The tip always looks perfect,all the layers. It burnishes well, the black seems less distracting. I use blue diamond chalk and the tip never miscues( it is hard but feels softer). This how you're supposed to play ,break with same cue. It will last quite awhile, I'm sure. I also seal shafts with finish(2 times ) (then the bowling alley wax),light sand -perfection . when cue ball is on rail You can shoot the rail shots just like Jay Helfert says( angle cue shoot down through the rail- After watching the flordia 14.1,online and recorded matches, I escaped playing barbox 8-ball. It always helps so much watching the pro's stroke the balls it's pure poetry in motion. mark you will not be dissappointed.
I shape to perfect dime radius, spinning it. The tip always looks perfect,all the layers. It burnishes well, the black seems less distracting. I use blue diamond chalk and the tip never miscues( it is hard but feels softer). This how you're supposed to play ,break with same cue. It will last quite awhile, I'm sure. I also seal shafts with finish(2 times ) (then the bowling alley wax),light sand -perfection . when cue ball is on rail You can shoot the rail shots just like Jay Helfert says( angle cue shoot down through the rail- After watching the flordia 14.1,online and recorded matches, I escaped playing barbox 8-ball. It always helps so much watching the pro's stroke the balls it's pure poetry in motion. mark you will not be dissappointed.
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French Champions first then Triangles for decades but for the last three yrs its been SNIPER tips and nothing else! Thats just me...
French Champions first then Triangles for decades but for the last three yrs its been SNIPER tips and nothing else! Thats just me...
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Excellent post... imo. I'll still stick to my Super Pros but still a good post. :groucho:
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Are sting ray layerd tips ? Im a little to lazy to check on my own
Yes, they are layered tips.
Here's some info on them:
"These special tips are made from eleven layers of 2mm thick cold weather pigskin. Since eleven layers are used in the production process, the density is high, which gives the tips a solid feeling and hit. During the eleven layer production process, the tips are soaked in tree sap and compressed, which leaves a thin layer of sap on the skin. This unique process helps glue the layers together and makes the tip more stable."
PoolDawg, Atlas, and Mueller sell StingRays.
I like the Super Pro tips I've been playing with. After reading this post, I've ordered a Kamui Black Hard tip. Seems quite a few like it and it raised my curiousity about it and thought I'll give it a spin. Still looking for that perfect tip. I'll give a comparison write up when I install it and try it out.
OK I just ordered a Kamui Black Hard, and a Kamui Black Medium. That should give me a pretty decent range to try.
I probably won't get them for a few weeks, but will report back after I've played with them for a while.
I probably won't get them for a few weeks, but will report back after I've played with them for a while.
Just my humble opinion.... the finest hard tip on this little blue planet.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-Hercules-Orig...ash=item1c0158d86c&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
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I just got done playing with the Kamui black medium tip for a couple weeks.
IMO, they are not for me. Two things i didnt' like about the Black Medium.
1. Not hard enough for me.
2. Didn't really like the feel or feedback.
I feel the Kamui II tips are much better head to head. I like the feel and feedback of the II's way better!
I also feel the Kamui II medium is a harder tip then the Black medium.
I did not give the Black hard tip a try but because I feel the II Medium is better then the Black medium so I went back to the II Hard.
IMO i feel the best hard tip out there is the KAMUI II HARD! Hands down.
Hope this helps some peeps out.
IMO, they are not for me. Two things i didnt' like about the Black Medium.
1. Not hard enough for me.
2. Didn't really like the feel or feedback.
I feel the Kamui II tips are much better head to head. I like the feel and feedback of the II's way better!
I also feel the Kamui II medium is a harder tip then the Black medium.
I did not give the Black hard tip a try but because I feel the II Medium is better then the Black medium so I went back to the II Hard.
IMO i feel the best hard tip out there is the KAMUI II HARD! Hands down.
Hope this helps some peeps out.
I absolutely love the hard WB tips, but I have had two of them have a catastrophic blow out. One too many miscues, and a chunk of water buffalo goes flying, so I am using a Moori Hard, and that thing is freaking hard as hell. I have trimmed the shroom a couple times, and then it has held its shape really well, however, I have had to tip pik it a few times due to it getting a little glazed. I actually think these might be a bit too hard for me. I love the Wizard hard tips, even though they feel more like a medium hard tip. I will be trying a super pro and maybe a hercules tip next.
Joe
Joe
How hard are they compared to a Moori hard, Wizard hard, or even a single layer WB? I am very tempted to try these, as well as the Karomi tips they sell as well.
Joe
Guys, thanks for all the input so far.
I just got those tips in the mail, and they will go out (and come back) next week, so I'll post some comments afterwards.
I can say that the MS Kamui II's I have on my shafts now feel pretty good, but I think they are kind of a "Tweener" tip.
By that I mean they are a little too hard for those that like spinning the ball with a soft tip, and a little too soft for the nice speed control and feedback of a hard tip.
I have some friends that absolutely LOVE the Black medium and Black hard, so I figured the Kamuii II soft, the Black Hard and the Black medium should give me a pretty good idea about which way to go here.
Thanks again for all the input, and please keep it coming!
I just got those tips in the mail, and they will go out (and come back) next week, so I'll post some comments afterwards.
I can say that the MS Kamui II's I have on my shafts now feel pretty good, but I think they are kind of a "Tweener" tip.
By that I mean they are a little too hard for those that like spinning the ball with a soft tip, and a little too soft for the nice speed control and feedback of a hard tip.
I have some friends that absolutely LOVE the Black medium and Black hard, so I figured the Kamuii II soft, the Black Hard and the Black medium should give me a pretty good idea about which way to go here.
Thanks again for all the input, and please keep it coming!
Mike,
Check your pm's.
To me the Emerald and for the price it is one of the best tips if not the best medium hard tip out there. It is not super hard but it does not have a medium hit at all, it is just very well balanced.
I am not just bragging about the tip, just look around at all the comments from the people that bought the Emerald tip and are playing with it. I am also a Kamui dealer as well and I rather sell Kamuis than Emeralds because I make more money
... This is the truth to me... And BTW, this tip a tad harder than a Moori medium, big difference.
Check your pm's.
To me the Emerald and for the price it is one of the best tips if not the best medium hard tip out there. It is not super hard but it does not have a medium hit at all, it is just very well balanced.
I am not just bragging about the tip, just look around at all the comments from the people that bought the Emerald tip and are playing with it. I am also a Kamui dealer as well and I rather sell Kamuis than Emeralds because I make more money
... This is the truth to me... And BTW, this tip a tad harder than a Moori medium, big difference.
Best IMHO.........
Super Pros are definitely the way to go. It was a shock to find out how well these played for how hard of a layered tip they are. I rarely ever miscued. These tips are not only great to break and jump with, but are great players. I only tested these out but from my experience with them ( 3 months ), these are by far the best all around hard tip out on the market.
Super Pros are definitely the way to go. It was a shock to find out how well these played for how hard of a layered tip they are. I rarely ever miscued. These tips are not only great to break and jump with, but are great players. I only tested these out but from my experience with them ( 3 months ), these are by far the best all around hard tip out on the market.
I use hard Talisman waterbuffalo and there are no miscues because the chalk stays on, unlike a moori quick. The moori quicks lose chalk on every hit and imo pure crapola.
I made some milk duds a couple of years ago and they played fine. They had a very hard feel and sound, but played nicely. I like the sound and feel of the Talsiman WB and will stick with them but will experiment some with a Kamui one day.
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