Best instructors in pool?

Nostroke...Robert Byrne never did actively teach. He wrote some fine books, and produced some very good (for the time) instructional videos. BTW, he PLAYS 3-C, not pool! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
The first question to ask your new found instructor?

Does the cue ball transfer english to the object ball?

If your answer from that person is no, save your money!!!!

Your better off making a bad game, let some one else have your money!

Mark Gregory
 
Sailor of Racine

is a pretty good teacher. His knowledge is unbelievable and if 14.1 is your game...wow!
If yoiu asked Mark Wilson and Jeff Carter I bet they would tell you the same.
ruk
 
Mark...A better question would be...does it happen EVERY time (NO)...and does it happen to a statistically significant enough degree to really worrry about it (NO)? Now...if you still want to banter about that particular issue, I'll come down to Atlanta and set up a test shot for you...and we can wager on it (I'll have the better of it, since we have done this MANY times in pool school)! :D You are hands down a GREAT table installer (and a highly skilled player, as well)! With all due respect, if this question is your primary reason for picking an instructor, I'd have to doubt your ability as a potential teacher.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

perfectpocketz said:
The first question to ask your new found instructor?

Does the cue ball transfer english to the object ball?

If your answer from that person is no, save your money!!!!

Your better off making a bad game, let some one else have your money!

Mark Gregory
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best instructor

two of the best instructors i've ever met are Denny Stewart of Ohio Pool School and Tony Robles. Besides the fact they both know what they are doing and do it well, they care about the people they teach.
 
Jerry Briesath

Jerry Briesath is probably the premier instuctor in the United States. Tony Robles has taken lessons from him and so has Allison Fisher. He also taught Mark Wilson, before Mark started teaching. Teaching these caliber people alone should speak volumes on his ability to teach pool. I had lessons from him about ten years ago for three days. Best money I ever spent.
 
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Denny Stewart is a great instructor, as is Tony Robles. Props to them both. Since Joey mentioned it, Max Eberle is also a terrific instructor...and doesn't play TOO bad either! All three of these people are good teachers, and very nice people to boot!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

cblank said:
two of the best instructors i've ever met are Denny Stewart of Ohio Pool School and Tony Robles. Besides the fact they both know what they are doing and do it well, they care about the people they teach.
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Lil Joe Villalpando

No one imparts pool knowledge better than Lil Joe Villalpando. The entire Behnke family, Adam "The Sleeve", Ryan, Levi and the 12 year old prodigy in training, Chad. You guys/gals need to keep an eye on Chad. I feel he is destined to become the top player in this country. Joe, can be reached here: http://www.pooliq.net/aboutdvd.htm
 
Scott, no disrespect to you or other instructors but, a lot of you are teaching that
the cue ball has no effect on the object balls. Call me when you can come to Atlanta
and if you prove me wrong, You can bust me. C J Wiley will take some action also.

I'm not an instructor,and don't try to be one.

I just know that after playing pool for 30 yrs. the cue ball transfers english to the
object ball.

How else can you twist bank shots or throw bank shots?

How about very thin cut shots with a ton of spin on the cue ball?
I,m also sure you are very good at what you do.

I will take your action on this, and pay off if i lose!!!!
Mark Gregory 770-548-4292
 
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perfectpocketz said:
Scott, no disrespect to you or other instructors but, a lot of you are teaching that
the cue ball has no effect on the object balls. Call me when you can come to Atlanta
and if you prove me wrong, You can bust me. C J Wiley will take some action also.

I'm not an instructor,and don't try to be one.

I just know that after playing pool for 30 yrs. the cue ball transfers english to the
object ball.

How else can you twist bank shots or throw bank shots?

How about very thin cut shots with a ton of spin on the cue ball?
I,m also sure you are very good at what you do.

I will take your action on this, and pay off if i lose!!!!
Mark Gregory 770-548-4292
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I have got to believe you have some bad information, Perfectpocketz. I know quite a few instructors who were top money players in the 70s and 80s and all of them know the cue ball imparts English onto the object ball. In fact, they all know that the object ball imparts English on the first ball it hits, if still spinning.

I am sure, Scott, knows this too. When you say, "A lot of you are teaching that the cue ball has no effect on the object balls.", I would like to see some of these names. I don't believe any of them could be,,, "TOP",,, instructors.

I have a GC-4 in my game room and teach certain young players that I see potential in. The first thing I do is set two frozen balls up about 7' from a corner pocket, pointed to hit about one foot above the pocket. Then ask them if the ball is straight in or if not to show me how they would shoot the shot to pocket the higher number ball by hitting the lower number ball first.

A high percentage of these young players can string racks together yet, with ball in hand, will hit the object ball on the wrong side. All of the instructors I know will hit the ball on the correct side.
 
hemicudas said:
... A high percentage of these young players can string racks together yet, with ball in hand, will hit the object ball on the wrong side. All of the instructors I know will hit the ball on the correct side.
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I'm startled by the fact that two of the best players in the room where I play have no idea that frozen combinations will throw. Pretty much every basic book on pool talks about this -- evidently they don't read books.

But more subtle is this shot from one pocket: the object ball is on the side rail one ball off the rail and two diamonds from your pocket. (I hope everyone can follow this description so far without a diagram.) The cue ball is frozen to that same side rail one diamond from your pocket. Bank the ball back to your pocket. Or see Diagram 3 in http://www.sfbilliards.com/articles/2007-05.pdf for another example.

But this is all mostly off the track. Such shots come up rarely, and most instruction is about the 99.99% of shots that are more standard.
 
hemicudas said:
I have got to believe you have some bad information, Perfectpocketz. I know quite a few instructors who were top money players in the 70s and 80s and all of them know the cue ball imparts English onto the object ball. In fact, they all know that the object ball imparts English on the first ball it hits, if still spinning.

I am sure, Scott, knows this too. When you say, "A lot of you are teaching that the cue ball has no effect on the object balls.", I would like to see some of these names. I don't believe any of them could be,,, "TOP",,, instructors.

I have a GC-4 in my game room and teach certain young players that I see potential in. The first thing I do is set two frozen balls up about 7' from a corner pocket, pointed to hit about one foot above the pocket. Then ask them if the ball is straight in or if not to show me how they would shoot the shot to pocket the higher number ball by hitting the lower number ball first.

A high percentage of these young players can string racks together yet, with ball in hand, will hit the object ball on the wrong side. All of the instructors I know will hit the ball on the correct side.
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hemicudas,

You and I are saying the same thing. However, I am not talking about frozen balls.

As for the "TOP" instructors who don't teach that the cue ball transfers english to the object ball, some of them are: Tom Simpson, Randy G., and Scott Lee seems to think that the cue ball doesn't have to transfer english to the object ball.

Randy G & Tom Simpson both talked to me and told me that players are mistaken when they think the cue ball imparts english to the object ball.

I'm not trying to be ugly, I was one of the money players from the 70's & 80's and I can't believe that they believe this and teach this to beginners.

Maybe you want in with me on the action from Scott Lee?
 
perfectpocketz said:
hemicudas,

You and I are saying the same thing. However, I am not talking about frozen balls.

As for the "TOP" instructors who don't teach that the cue ball transfers english to the object ball, some of them are: Tom Simpson, Randy G., and Scott Lee seems to think that the cue ball doesn't have to transfer english to the object ball.

Randy G & Tom Simpson both talked to me and told me that players are mistaken when they think the cue ball imparts english to the object ball.

I'm not trying to be ugly, I was one of the money players from the 70's & 80's and I can't believe that they believe this and teach this to beginners.

Maybe you want in with me on the action from Scott Lee?
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I still can't believe instructors would not teach, left puts right, right puts left, top puts bottom and draw puts follow.
 
hemicudas said:
I still can't believe instructors would not teach, left puts right, right puts left, top puts bottom and draw puts follow.
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Looks like you should be on the list of ACTUAL "TOP" instructors. Next time Scott Lee chimes in, you chime in as well.

Mark Gregory
 
Only lesson I ever took in 15 years was from Jerry Briesath, he is incredible. Also based on recent experience at the Predator pool school, can't say enough nice things about Tony Robles, I was very impressed by him in the relatively short amount of time I got to spend with him. Wish I lived closer...

Scott
 
perfectpocketz said:
hemicudas,

You and I are saying the same thing. However, I am not talking about frozen balls.

As for the "TOP" instructors who don't teach that the cue ball transfers english to the object ball, some of them are: Tom Simpson, Randy G., and Scott Lee seems to think that the cue ball doesn't have to transfer english to the object ball.

Randy G & Tom Simpson both talked to me and told me that players are mistaken when they think the cue ball imparts english to the object ball.

I'm not trying to be ugly, I was one of the money players from the 70's & 80's and I can't believe that they believe this and teach this to beginners.

Maybe you want in with me on the action from Scott Lee?
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That's not what I said.
If you are going to quote me, quote me correctly. Now you have pissed me off. Get your stories straight.

Ok, now I'm not pissed anymore. Have fun with this...,..SPF=randyg
 
hemicudas said:
I still can't believe instructors would not teach, left puts right, right puts left, top puts bottom and draw puts follow.
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Can you possibly direct me to a video that shows a cue ball with forward roll putting back spin on an object ball? I would love to see one.
Thanks
Steve
 
top and bottom spin transfer

pooltchr said:
Can you possibly direct me to a video that shows a cue ball with forward roll putting back spin on an object ball? I would love to see one.
Thanks
Steve
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Here are some videos showing the effects:


The effects are small (except for cling shots), but they do exist; although, there aren't many real shots where the effects are useful.

Regards,
Dave
 
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