But u don't get it then do you. You didn't send what you agreed to. You agreed to send 450. You then only back out of that agreement once you had him wilted down to your price. And then lowered your offer of only 400. After the first agreed upon price of 450. So then after the op relented and agreed to the beat down price of your gustpo tactics that you do. And you was supposed to pay for shipping. U then not only didn't pay for shipping. U also shorted him the .25 So for him that was the final straw dealing with you. Why don't you get that. You piss People off with your condescending personality/attitude like you are better the. Somebody. Or something.
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But u don't get it then do you. You didn't send what you agreed to. You agreed to send 450. You then only back out of that agreement once you had him wilted down to your price. And then lowered your offer of only 400. After the first agreed upon price of 450. So then after the op relented and agreed to the beat down price of your gustpo tactics that you do. And you was supposed to pay for shipping. U then not only didn't pay for shipping. U also shorted him the .25 So for him that was the final straw dealing with you. Why don't you get that. You piss People off with your condescending personality/attitude like you are better the. Somebody. Or something.
If you block eager Beiber, then re-open this thread, it's only 3 pages.....:thumbup2:
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Rackattach
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He declined my offer of $450 originally then when a few days went by he realized the cue wasn't as valuable and I realized the buttcap was off we revisited it again and came to terms on $400.
I'll publicly apologize for sending $412 when someone shows me how that's wrong..... Everything I've ever read says PayPal charges 2.9% + .30 cents fees so 2.9 x400 = 411.60 plus .30 is 411.90 so $412.00 should cover it.
offering me *much less* than what I was asking doesn't make you a bad person, you're right. However, coming back a few days later posting one of your own for sale that wasn't in nearly the condition mine was and asking $300 more didn't make you a nice person either. I think it made you a hypocrite.
The plain maple ts merry widow that you just had up on ebay for $1500 adds to the overall picture. And you left out some important info on that cue. Why?
You posted in another ad that the cue you were selling was one of only 5 purpleheart TS sneakies ever made. I've owned more than 5 myself.
You withhold info that can hurt a sale and add info even if it's not true in order to help a sale.
Answer these for me and answer to the other allegations that were made in the other thread.
imo, you are shady. Prove to me that I'm wrong.
And as far as pointing further that Royce for still having his TS for sale even after an ebay auction has ended, that would be between Royce and that ebayer so we don't have both of those sides of a story or even if there is a problem. You're just speculating.
again, imo.
best,
brian kc
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Rackattach
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Brian
If I'm a hypocrite that's fine. There's nothing shady about feeling something is valued more than something else. For the TS purpleheart cue, I was told that there were very few in existence and you could count them on one hand. I can't ask Tim since he's passed away so not sure about that, speculation I suppose.
The Widow cue I bought from Blair, who I believed bought it from you was late in passing me info on the cue. You feel free to ask him yourself. He "omitted" the data and when I asked him about it came clean with the details. Once I learned the work that been done I took it down, plain and simple. Turns out it's genuine since you owned it so you know that. I added a TS shaft I have for it and what I want to ask for price is my opinion since we all know the "value" is what someone is willing to pay.
As for the auction ending and him trying to solicit offers is simply just another example of what he did to me, Mike Molina and several others man. You call me shady but his actions make him clearly the shady one.
If I'm a hypocrite that's fine. There's nothing shady about feeling something is valued more than something else. For the TS purpleheart cue, I was told that there were very few in existence and you could count them on one hand. I can't ask Tim since he's passed away so not sure about that, speculation I suppose.
The Widow cue I bought from Blair, who I believed bought it from you was late in passing me info on the cue. You feel free to ask him yourself. He "omitted" the data and when I asked him about it came clean with the details. Once I learned the work that been done I took it down, plain and simple. Turns out it's genuine since you owned it so you know that. I added a TS shaft I have for it and what I want to ask for price is my opinion since we all know the "value" is what someone is willing to pay.
As for the auction ending and him trying to solicit offers is simply just another example of what he did to me, Mike Molina and several others man. You call me shady but his actions make him clearly the shady one.
Royce 827,
Dealing w/RACKATTACH, challenged by JUSTIN and having at least 3 ebay auctions end with what appears to be air barrel artists as high bidders is a streak of terrible luck, hope you left negative feedback for the jerks as warning to the rest of the community.
Been saying since the 90's, "pimpin aint easy"
Dealing w/RACKATTACH, challenged by JUSTIN and having at least 3 ebay auctions end with what appears to be air barrel artists as high bidders is a streak of terrible luck, hope you left negative feedback for the jerks as warning to the rest of the community.
Been saying since the 90's, "pimpin aint easy"
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I don't want to get into a protracted back and forth with you but I have tocall bs on what I've highlighted above in blue.
I have all of the times and you had the auction up with knowledge of the repair that you failed to disclose.
Don't try to do an end-around on me Rack. I'm not justinb386. :smile:
best,
brian kc
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Who is Mike Molina?
Let's get him up here to see, the because I'm concerned about it.
I mean if Mike Molina was solicited with an offer, I need to know about that one.
Do you know what this offer was?
I don't even want to think about the "others" who were solicited with offers as well.
I'll be damned, Mke Molina got an offer, never heard of such a thing.
i saw a batch of 12 to 15 PH sneakies in Bill Mcd's shop once
Just catching up on this situation followed from the OP's 1st post. Time I will never get back.
Was total a cluster f deflection post without our charter forum 'mental member' getting back to parents basement after 4 days of hitch hiking from road trip, lost as usual, spewing mumbo jumbo, then starting chit. So :shakehead:
Have a good safe weekend,
-Kat,
Was total a cluster f deflection post without our charter forum 'mental member' getting back to parents basement after 4 days of hitch hiking from road trip, lost as usual, spewing mumbo jumbo, then starting chit. So :shakehead:
Have a good safe weekend,
-Kat,
justinb386
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The thing that I do not understand is, why did the seller not tell the OP the price of the shipping costs, and the total amount to send before giving the OP his paypal email? If they agreed on the $400 plus the cost of shipping, then surely the seller would have told the OP the amount he needed to add (to the $400) for shipping costs, right?
All of this is not to mention the fact that we do not know exactly when the payment was made (date and time). We only know when the refund was given, right? Was the refund not given until a few days later? Did I miss this fact somewhere? How long passed from the time payment was made until the time that the refund was given?
Also, don't forget how rude and nasty the seller was to the OP. You guys did see those text messages, right? That is not cool.
justinb386
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In reading all of these replies, I get the feeling that people are not even reading or understanding anything that the OP has stated. What is wrong with your people? The seller held onto the OP's money for who knows how long, before sending the refund, and may have also lied about shipping the cue (not sure if that is true). I just do not understand why the OP, who may have been wronged and lied to for a few days is being attacked over things that are off topic. Makes no sense to me.
Why would we care when a documented liar comes out and whines? Who cares what he has to say? Especially since he is so shady in his dealings. I know you're some innocent lamb who also has been in business for 20 years, and clearly know everything, but once you try to screw people, your reputation is justifiably dead.
Go away now, you are the one who clearly doesn't understand anything in this thread.
It won't let me rep you again until I spread it around, ahahaha
No offense but it's no big surprise you don't understand. From what I've read so far, the op badgered the seller into a lower price. That by itself why ,a be not cool is ok. No one forced the seller to accept nor deal with this guy. So a deal is finally made. The op THEN not only shorts him 25 cents ( which is really no big deal but definitely a duck move ), but also does not pay the shipping as agreed. That's ot, deal over. Took a few days to get a refund...... have you ever dealt with a bank in regards to getting a refund or credit lolol. Not to mention; and this is just my opinion , I would not have faulted the seller if he deducted $25 or $50 as a " restocking fee " ( more so a you wasted too much of my time fee ) and if there were a problem I would have offered to resolve it in in person negotiations. With your track record Justin it's not surprising whom you are taking up for. But the rest of us in three real world KNOW that's not how you do business and often there's consequences when you try to operate like that.
justinb386
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Okay, so if a person is no good, and just plain bad (and I am not saying that about the OP, because I do not know him or his dealings), it makes it okay to be dishonest to that person, and hold onto their money for knows how long (maybe a few days in this case?)? I am still trying to figure out exactly how long the seller had the OP's money in his paypal account. Has this been verified on here yet? Did I miss the facts somewhere? We know the exact time and date that the seller refunded the OP, but we do not know exactly when the OP sent the paypal payment.
I assume that you think that the OP is lying about his entire side of the story, right?
This thread should not be about the type of person the OP is, or about his previous dealings.
It should be about the facts of the single deal that the OP was originally talking about.
If the OP's side of the story is true, then the seller is very much in the wrong in this situation.
One thing that we do know for a fact is that someone was very rude and nasty about pointing out the fact that the refund was given.
Now I would like to know exactly how long the seller had the OP's money. Any facts to prove this?
We seen a screen shot of the refund. so what about a screen shot of exactly when the payment was made?
This will tell me if the OP's side of the story may have been true.
The only thing that should matter is the final agreed upon amount of money for the cue. If an agreement was not made, then the seller would not have given the OP his paypal email. The seller would have told the OP exactly how much to send the OP, or exactly how much to add for the shipping costs. This is the most confusing part of the story.